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Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:37 PM

 

LOL. Okay Rachel, we love you. But John Edwards is completely a ZERO!

He will never run for shit again.


LOVE you, Rachel.

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Reply LOL. Okay Rachel, we love you. But John Edwards is completely a ZERO! (Original post)
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MichiganVote Apr 2012 #1
DURHAM D Apr 2012 #2
TheWraith Apr 2012 #3
DURHAM D Apr 2012 #4
banned from Kos Apr 2012 #5
DURHAM D Apr 2012 #7
banned from Kos Apr 2012 #9
DURHAM D Apr 2012 #10
JHB Apr 2012 #37
TheWraith Apr 2012 #52
Octafish Apr 2012 #6
banned from Kos Apr 2012 #8
customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #11
Logical Apr 2012 #13
customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #14
JDPriestly Apr 2012 #21
Fawke Em Apr 2012 #34
customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #47
2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #28
Cleita Apr 2012 #15
dionysus Apr 2012 #18
Logical Apr 2012 #20
dionysus Apr 2012 #26
Logical Apr 2012 #36
WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #50
Withywindle Apr 2012 #53
karynnj Apr 2012 #58
progressoid Apr 2012 #27
Octafish Apr 2012 #38
Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #73
XanaDUer Apr 2012 #12
Octafish Apr 2012 #39
customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #48
cali Apr 2012 #16
Octafish Apr 2012 #40
customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #49
sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #69
appal_jack Apr 2012 #72
sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #75
appal_jack Apr 2012 #78
cali Apr 2012 #82
sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #83
cali Apr 2012 #84
sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #85
dionysus Apr 2012 #17
Happyhippychick Apr 2012 #19
JDPriestly Apr 2012 #22
Kaleva Apr 2012 #30
Happyhippychick Apr 2012 #32
geek tragedy Apr 2012 #55
JDPriestly Apr 2012 #23
Octafish Apr 2012 #41
dionysus Apr 2012 #44
Octafish Apr 2012 #45
JDPriestly Apr 2012 #24
Octafish Apr 2012 #42
geek tragedy Apr 2012 #56
karynnj Apr 2012 #59
Fawke Em Apr 2012 #33
Octafish Apr 2012 #43
Fawke Em Apr 2012 #70
alphafemale Apr 2012 #51
Octafish Apr 2012 #60
alphafemale Apr 2012 #62
Octafish Apr 2012 #64
alphafemale Apr 2012 #66
geek tragedy Apr 2012 #54
Octafish Apr 2012 #61
karynnj Apr 2012 #57
Octafish Apr 2012 #63
Throd Apr 2012 #65
Octafish Apr 2012 #67
Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #68
Octafish Apr 2012 #71
Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #74
Octafish Apr 2012 #76
Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #79
Octafish Apr 2012 #81
bluedigger Apr 2012 #25
dsc Apr 2012 #29
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Response to banned from Kos (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:38 PM

1. What a con man. Sad that we as voters merit such little consideration.

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Response to banned from Kos (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:43 PM

2. She just explained that the prosecutor who brought these novel charges

has stepped down to run for the U.S. Senate. His campaign is based on the Edward's indictment.


I hope you kept watching.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:45 PM

3. So? That doesn't mean Edwards didn't do it.

It also doesn't change the fact that he was a lying sack of shit, who tried to deny fathering a child that was his.

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:52 PM

4. Please read again -

I did not defend Edwards. The story is about a senate race in NC.

So "So" yourself.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:07 PM

5. It doesn't matter. Edwards is past tense.

 

He is finished and not worth a news bite.

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Response to banned from Kos (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:13 PM

7. I see you missed the point.

Cheers

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:16 PM

9. So Edwards has a future in the Democratic Party?

 

No, I did not "miss the point". I don't care if Edwards skates. Run free John!

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Response to banned from Kos (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:32 PM

10. Huh?

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Response to banned from Kos (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 10:42 AM

37. /Edwards/ is past tense. The GOP prosecutor running for senate...

...and touting his politically-motivated prosecution is present tense.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 05:59 PM

52. My point is, the prosecutor running for something doesn't invalidate the charges against Edwards. nt

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Response to banned from Kos (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:09 PM

6. Edwards is a good man.

Who's to say they're better?

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:13 PM

8. No one here wants to condemn John Edwards.

 

We just don't want him in the news 24/7.

His star has dimmed.

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Response to banned from Kos (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:42 PM

11. I'm more than happy to condemn him

He asked for (and way too often got) our support in both money and votes, all while pretending to be this good family man who was standing by his cancer-stricken wife as a prop. He didn't have the brains in the post-Bill Clinton era to:

1) Keep his pants zipped.
2) If he couldn't do that, at least not find a nutjob to have his fun with.
3) If he couldn't do that, at least wear a freaking rubber.

Incredibly stupid decisions by a man who pretended he was qualified to lead this nation. If Barack Obama had decided that it was not yet his time to run, we might well have seen Edwards get the 2008 nomination, and then all this crap would have hit the fan. You'd be reading about the natterings of Vice-President Palin just about every day.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:47 PM

13. Wow, you hate Kennedy also????

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Response to Logical (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:13 PM

14. Would Ted Kennedy have become President

if Chappaquiddick had not happened? I think he stood a good chance of it, and would have run in 1976.

However, Ted saw how the media ignored his brother John's behaviors, and figured he could get away with it, too. What excuse did John Edwards have after watching the Clinton impeachment and how the press went into a feeding frenzy over it?

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:22 AM

21. Being human. That is an excuse.

Be careful about judging other people.

Unless you are very young and have lived a life of utmost virtue, you never know what trouble you might find yourself in some day.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #21)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 09:09 AM

34. It's human to humiliate someone you allegedly love?

I agree that making mistakes is human, but deliberately cheating on a spouse - and a very sick one at that - is not a mistake. It's a choice and a poor one at that. His dick didn't accidentally fall into Rielle's vagina.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 01:37 PM

47. And I have not lived that life

But I didn't run for public office and lie like a rug about my life, either.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 03:02 AM

28. I'll take that as a yes.

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Response to Logical (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:21 PM

15. It was a different time. Back then unfaithful wives were whores who

deserved to be stoned, if it weren't illegal, but unfaithful husbands were just being naughty. After all famous and powerful men have needs.

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Response to Logical (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:03 AM

18. don't recall them cheating on a dying spouse. try harder. smoove johhny is

a piece o crap.

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Response to dionysus (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:19 AM

20. OK, cheating on a healthy spouse is OK? LOL!

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Response to Logical (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:33 AM

26. never said that either.. keep trying. nt

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Response to dionysus (Reply #26)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 10:30 AM

36. LOL.....I love the double standard! Emotions <> Logic.

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Response to Logical (Reply #36)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 01:56 PM

50. Heck I'll say it

 

Yes I believe cheating on a dying spouse is in fact worse than cheating on one that is not dying.

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Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #50)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:13 PM

53. I think so too. Absolutely.

Someone who is terminally ill needs the full love and support of their spouse then more than ever before. Someone fighting a very dangerous illness does not need to be subjected to ADDITIONAL--and totally unnecessary--stress and anxiety and pain. Someone who only has a few years or months left should not have to spend that precious time dealing with the grief and anger and humiliation of a publicly collapsing marriage.

It's way worse. It's SO much worse. It's one of the worst forms imaginable of kicking someone when they're down.

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Response to Withywindle (Reply #53)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:56 PM

58. Not to mention the potential of JRE passing something to Elizabeth

when her immune system was down. He had unprotected sex - and the danger was not just pregnancy.

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Response to banned from Kos (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 02:58 AM

27. Um...LOTS of people here want to condemn him.

And do so regularly.

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Response to banned from Kos (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 10:43 AM

38. You want him banned from DU.

I got it. His ideas, too, right?

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Response to Octafish (Reply #38)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:06 AM

73. His "ideas" were as legitimate as the last child he fathered. In other words, not at all.

He was just another good looking huckster, with a cute southern drawl, who got caught with his pants down. It amazes me how some people get every "benefit of the doubt" but others who actually keep it in their pants, only deserve scorn & constant derision from some corners. Go figure.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:43 PM

12. Yes. Nt

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Response to XanaDUer (Reply #12)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 10:49 AM

39. Edwards was the only candidate in '08 talking about economic justice for ALL Americans.

That's foreign policy to the ones who got the financial backing needed to remain competitive. Look at who got to harvest the rewards of winning the election: Wall Street and the swells who own the Corporations. The middle class and poor? LOL. We got evicted and kicked to the curb.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #39)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 01:44 PM

48. Yes, he talked the talk

But he also did a lot of other talking, and it was out of the other side of his mouth. It was the fact that he was willing to say such truly hopeful things to so many people who desperately needed a champion that made what he did even worse. I expect that sort of thing from a John Ensign or a Mark Sanford, they support that world of double standards from fifty years ago. I don't expect it from someone on our side, especially when it is absolutely obvious that the press is not going to "let it go".

It was John Edwards' facade of righteousness that kept everybody except the National Enquirer away from this story, and even though the cat was out of the bag, he continued to boldly lie his ass off about the allegations, even though he knew fully that they were 100% true. He denied the daughter who was of his own DNA, she's going to have to grow up and learn that truth some day, maybe it will be a bit easier for her if we as a society (through the justice system) said it was wrong.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:52 PM

16. I dunno. He's certainly done his share of truly shitty things

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Response to cali (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 10:50 AM

40. True. Who hasn't?

I like how he helped people out in most of what he did in his professional and public lives.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #40)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 01:46 PM

49. He became a multi-millionaire off of other people's suffering

That gives him at least one thing in common with the "health" insurance executives who we oppose.

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Response to cali (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 11:24 PM

69. Did he commit any war crimes? Did he commit Economic Crimes that helped collapse the World's

Economy?

For the record, I never supported him, but get back to me when the War and Economic criminals are being prosecuted. Until then, an affair pales no matter how despicable it was, by comparison to the torture and the hundreds of thousands of lost lives, and the destruction of the millions of lives caused by the Wall Street Criminals.

We are not a country of laws. So until the law is applied equally to those whose crimes have destroyed the lives of millions, I really can't get too excited about a politician having an affair anymore.

Cheney got a new heart. How nice and what an indictment of our so-called judicial process that only Democrats appear to be get indicted.

Since we're 'looking forward' regarding these major crimes, seems to me that equal justice under the law would require 'looking forward' when it comes to extra-marital affairs even if they were paid for as alleged, something he denies btw. Considering the trillions spent on Wall St and the illegal wars, I simply don't get the outrage over this relatively, please note the word 'relatively' minor 'crime'.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #69)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:55 AM

72. Drug warior, Patriot Act Supporter, IWR supporter

Edwards voted in favor of the Iraq War Resolution / AUMF.

Edwards supported the failed and insane Drug War, and all the misery it creates for the poor, with the profits going to prisons.

Edwards voted in favor of the Patriot Act.

Edwards cynically used the office of Senator from NC as a stepping stone on a rushed (& failed) journey toward the presidency. During his two years in the Senate, he earned his title as "Senator Gone." His constituent services and accountability were basically nil.

I despised Edwards long before the adultery scandal, and had good reason to do so.

We don't need any more Democrats in the Edwards mold, thank you.

-app

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Response to appal_jack (Reply #72)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:32 AM

75. How many Democrats did not support:

The AUMF

The Patriot Act

The Drug War???

I can think of only a few, and I completely agree with you, we do not need any more Democrats like these who did not have the guts to stand up when it was necessary to do so.

Charge all of them with those 'crimes' which did far more to harm this country and a few others, than an affair.

My point was not to defend Edwards as a Democrat, I never supported him, nor did I support Hillary, Gephardt or any of the other Dems who voted for the Patriot Act, the AUMF, the Drug Wars, Hillary eg, was even willing to consider torture. I do not consider these to be Democratic principles.

I would like to see every Democrat who voted for that list you provided, replaced by real Progressive Democrats.

I knew Edwards' political history which is why I did not even consider supporting him, or Hillary, or anyone else who voted for that list you provided.





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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #75)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:28 AM

78. Right on, sabrina 1

Sounds like we are seeking some similar leadership qualities and principles in our party.

And yes, I agree that going after the architects of the Iraq War (Bushco) and the financial collapse (basically every president since Nixon, with Clinton {re NAFTA & the Glass-Steagal repeal} and B*sh {for everything} deserving particular scorn) would be more far important than continuing to harangue Edwards about his failures of personal integrity.



-app

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #69)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:33 AM

82. he was one of the primary hawkers of the Iraq war.

so YOU decide.

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Response to cali (Reply #82)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:33 PM

83. 'One' of.

I did decide, and supported no one in the 2008 election who were 'hawkers' of that illegal atrocity.

If that is what is driving the support for 'getting' him now, then there is a long, long list of others who need to be held accountable.

Better to stick to what he is being prosecuted for, because that other list merely reminds us of how so many Democrats went along with it.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #83)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:45 PM

84. I have no idea what's driving support for getting him. I'm not interested in that

and I think the prosecution is politically motivated. As to the pols I support and who represent me and represented me then, no of them supported the war so I don't have to hold them accountable. How about you?

do try not to make so many assumptions.

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Response to cali (Reply #84)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:55 PM

85. I think Rachel explained what's driving it.

It's not as if he's the only one who had an affair while his wife was sick. Gingrich comes to mind. Or who may or may not have used campaign funds to support their lovers, who knows, no one after all, really goes after Republicans.

As for my position on anyone who supported Bush Policies, I've made that clear going all the way back to the vote on the Patriot Act right up to the present. I did, however, give some slack to those who were targeted with Anthrax, but like all the other crimes committed during the Bush years, that too has been forgotten.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:02 AM

17. "Edwards is a good man."

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Response to dionysus (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:51 AM

19. Yes a good man who took money under false pretenses, humiliated his wife, gravely disappointed his

Children, and destroyed his family in the process.

I sure am lucky my husband has zero in common with that "good man".

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Response to Happyhippychick (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:26 AM

22. I haven't heard that he ordered torture or the killing of someone with a drone or

the wholesale reading of everybody's e-mails, the universal tapping of phones, or the destruction of the economy.

You would think he had done at least one of those things to deserve all this outrage from DUers.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 08:47 AM

30. I think it more odd that anyone would even try to defend Edwards.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #30)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 09:00 AM

32. +1

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:24 PM

55. He was an Iraq war cheerleader. nt

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Response to dionysus (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:27 AM

23. Actually, Edwards didn't order the drone-murders of anyone, not that I have heard.

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Response to dionysus (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 10:52 AM

41. You act like the phrase is an alien concept to you.

I'm not surprised.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #41)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:13 PM

44. i'm just laughing at the people who, when it becomes obvious they got suckered by a con man,

actually double down on their defense of said con man.

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Response to dionysus (Reply #44)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:56 PM

45. Now THAT's funny.

Please add it to your journal so dupes like me can access it in the future.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:28 AM

24. Right.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 10:57 AM

42. The guy didn't like all the warmongering.

He even admitted his vote supporting the war in Iraq was a mistake. The way Bush, Powell and the rest lied in their official capacities to Congreff and the American people, perhaps more than a few DUers would have voted for the thing. I wonder how many would've admitted the mistake?

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Response to Octafish (Reply #42)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:26 PM

56. He 'admitted' that mistake to pander to

to anti-war voters. Part of his con.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #42)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:04 PM

59. He said in 2003 that he never believed there were WMDs,

but thought other reasons justified the war. This was months after the war started.

His WP "apology" in fact lied about his 2002 motivations. It is pretty bad when you lie in a supposedly sincere apology - which he did in August 2008 on the affair as well.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 09:07 AM

33. As a female who divorced a cheating husband

on those grounds, I can honestly say that, no, Edwards is NOT a good man.

I can say I'm better in that regard. I don't cheat on my spouse.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #33)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 10:59 AM

43. Very sorry to read that.

My family, also, has been affected by infidelity. Of course I don't approve of lies between spouses, people or nations.

Please know I hope you find happiness and a good person worthy of sharing your life.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #43)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:36 AM

70. Oh, just now saw this.

Please, know I'm happily remarried.

My son will be 13 in May. I divorced his father when he was 15 months old.

I was a single Mom for five, almost six, years. I did just fine.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:02 PM

51. A good man...How?

He was a good Use-this-shit-for-Soap salesman.

Gotta give him that I guess.

You still believe he cared about Poor people. He couldn't even give a shit about his dying wife.

Fuck John Edwards with a gravel embedded dick.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #51)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:57 PM

60. How kind.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. It makes clear for me the limitations of politics, which are, ultimately, people. I hope to never let you down, again.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #60)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:09 PM

62. He let his dying wife stand up and publicly humiliate herself for him.

He's the worst kind of scum.

on edit

Thankfully he never had a real shot at the nomination anyway.

We'd be looking at McCain Palin now and another hard right winger on the Supreme court.

Again fuck that creep.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #62)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:15 PM

64. No, he is not 'the worst kind of scum.'

That would be a term to apply to a murderer or warmonger, George Bush 41 and 43, for example.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #64)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:20 PM

66. I stand by my statement.

He is worse because he tried to pass himself off as a decent human being.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:22 PM

54. I'm a better man.

I have never betrayed my spouse.

I have never used the issue of poverty to promote myself.

I never lied to millions of voters.

I never broke federal campaign laws.

I never co-sponsored the Iraq War Resolution.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #54)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:02 PM

61. Please, let me know when you run for office.

I'll be sure to root for you. The only thing I ask is that you work to make ours a nation where the law applies equally to all, again.

Thanks in advance!

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:52 PM

57. Do you know him well enough to say this?

If you look at KNOWN actions, he really was not all that good a man. He was an egotistical vain person who took a lucky chance of getting the nomination for VP and apparently decided to not do much of what he was asked -especially defending Kerry or attacking Bush all that much.

His Senate record includes voting for the bankrupcy bill - something he knew a lot about as this was his wife's specialty. Then while running on poverty, he got $500,000 for 2 days a month work for a Hedge fund.

Edwards' words were great, but had to be taken on faith - when he lost that trust, there was nothing left.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #57)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:11 PM

63. Excellent points, all.

I promise to remember them. Perhaps one day we'll again have a nation where more people remember, especially Democratic leaders. Who knows? We might use the powers of government to make life better for ALL Americans, as in the New Deal. Here in Detroit, I've come to doubt that, though.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:18 PM

65. If Edwards is a good man, I'm a freakin' saint.

I can be 100 different types of a shitty dickbag, but I do think I'm better than he.

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Response to Throd (Reply #65)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:58 PM

67. 100? Wow!

As a Democrat, I believe all people are created equal. As a human being, I try not to forget that.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 11:12 PM

68. (raises hand)

There are very, very few people that I can confidently say I am a better person than. But Edwards cheated on his cancer-stricken wife, increased enormously the heartbreak of his children, and did not hesitate to risk sabotaging the entire Democratic Presidential campaign and throwing the election to McCain/Palin.

He does, however, have better hair than me.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #68)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:42 AM

71. Fair enough.

You are entitled to your opinion.

What I don't get is how I post my opinion and I get 11 responses. Yet, often -- edpecially on DU3 -- when I post facts that shed light on the treasonous warmongers working this nation into a feudal wasteland, I get no responses.

LOL.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #71)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:15 AM

74. No response? Perhaps it's because people disagree with you? I know that's shocking!

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #74)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:40 AM

76. You may be on to something. No biggie.

For what it's worth: I don't post to get people to agree with me. Usually, I post so people can learn and to help build a record of valuable information.

Feel free to go through my journal and point out where I'm wrong. It goes back to 2003 on DU2.

Going by what I've seen you post, Tarheel_Dem, I think you will learn a lot.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #76)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:44 AM

79. I'll waive that invitation, but thanks anyhoo.

There's a thin line between "teaching" and "preaching". I have no desire to be preached at, so I'll forgo "your journal" and its doubtless magnificent magnificence. If the quality of your "journaling" bears any resemblance to your participation in this thread, and your shameless defense of a shyster, despite his being a lying sack o' doo-doo, then that just about says all I need to know.

"Two Americas" my ass.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #79)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:48 AM

81. ''There's a thin line between 'teaching' and 'preaching'.''

Indeed.

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Response to banned from Kos (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:32 AM

25. Well, at least his shortcomings served to further another man's political career.

So he's got that going for him...

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Response to banned from Kos (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 08:34 AM

29. So it is perfectly OK for a GOP candidate wanna be to pervert the law for his own campaign

that is what her report was about. This is literally an unprecedented prosecution. No one in this history of the United States, not a single solitary soul, has been charged with this crime which literally hinges on why those two donors gave the money. I happen to live under the rule of this very US attorney. And I am quite concerned about just how laws in my neck of the woods are and are not enforced.

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Response to dsc (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:15 PM

86. I get your point - and given that Citizens United changed everything - it is unlikely that anyone

else will ever be charged. However, it might be that there was no other IDENTIFIED flagrant flouting of the campaign laws - assuming that this is taken as a campaign contribution.

The reason it could be considered a campaign contribution is that - if allowed to be a personal gift to Edwards, there is in fact absolutely NO restrictions on campaign contributions because the candidate is allowed to contribute as much as he/she chooses - either outright or as a loan.

One test of how the idea of large gifts to a candidate was viewed under the law was that the media and his Democratic rivals watched like hawks saying that Teresa Heinz Kerry could not give her husband more than the maximum credit because they had separate finances. Now, this is an extreme case. There is no way to claim that doing so would give Teresa more access or favors. The Kerrys opted not to test this - leading to Kerry mortgaging his half of the Boston house to get cash to lend to his campaign. Even then the media spoke of how Teresa would not have been allowed to pay off the debt - as that would be an illegal contribution. The other extreme would be someone wanting an Ambassadorship or some preferred legislative treatment. Giving his "best friend", the candidate, $1 million when the campaign could use it would be a powerful enticement.

JRE's donors would be between these two extremes. Had McCain/Feingold been upheld in the Citizen's United, this trial would be very significant as it would have created a loophole a truck could drive through in the law if it was deemed ok.

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Response to banned from Kos (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 08:53 AM

31. I miss being able to unrec

This OP oughta be <0

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 01:06 PM

46. Me, too.

Talk about completely missing the point of what Rachel was saying,

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Response to banned from Kos (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 09:22 AM

35. Are you talking about his girlfriend Rachel?

If so, I have no love for someone who knowingly has an affair with a married man, essentially breaks up a family, and then thinks she did nothing wrong. Elizabeth Edwards was an amazing woman. She deserved way better.

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Response to YellowRubberDuckie (Reply #35)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:15 AM

77. Man, oh, man- read the article

The DA or whatever the rethuglcan is is pushing trumped up charges.
RACHEL MADDOW is pointing that fact out.
She is not canonizing the guy, merely pointing out the charges are a grandstanding effort to get his Q rating up.

Basic reading comprehension.

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Response to DiverDave (Reply #77)

Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:41 AM

80. Didn't want to click on an article when I wasn't sure...

...about if they were praising a home wrecker or not. Jeez.

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