The Duggars (19 Kids and Counting) consider Halloween "demonic"

[Archae]

Gee, I'm SOOOO surprised!

Is anyone surprised that the Duggars do not celebrate Halloween? "Magic, sorcery, witches, spell-casting and the like are all part of the demonic realm that God wants us to stay away from. One specific thing that our parents have always been careful about is magic, which often shows up in children's movies. As harmless as it may seem, it's not a joke in God's eyes."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/duggar-family-refuses-to-celebrate-halloween-relates-holiday-to-demonic-realm-127023/

[Dreamer Tatum]

1. This is observationally equivalent to people who don't feel like buying candy to give out.

So really, who cares?

[sakabatou]

119. Even worse, giving out chick tracts

or the fake money with bible verses:

[FourScore]

122. Of course they do...they have to make 19 freakin' costumes!!! n/t

[hlthe2b]

2. I consider having 19 kids during a time when our our future is one of ever limited resources...

to be demonic.

So there...

[Travis_0004]

24. so much for pro choice

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

26. Sounds like you don't understand what 'pro choice' means.

It means you support a woman's right to choose what to do if she is pregnant.

It doesn't mean you have to actually agree with the choice she makes.

Just that you recognize that the decision is hers to make, not yours or anyone else's.

[hlthe2b]

30. Pro-choice does not mean "ABSENT ANY PLANNING" for any and all future pregnancies

Women are not brood mares and the men that press them into such a chattel role (and the parents/church members who brainwash them into this role) should rot in the hell of their own making.

Children deserve a childhood, which does not happen when they become indentured servants to cleaning the house and raising the younger children--all an outcome of these gargantuan families. In centuries past, large families served a purpose--to ensure the survival of at least a few, given the high rate of childhood mortality. That time is long past.

This is not a "pro-choice" issue. No one has taken her choice away during any of her 19 pregnancies. It is a world-responsibility issue, however and they are thus fully open to the criticism they receive as a couple.

[yeoman6987]

66. 100 percent pro choice

Besides it will help with Social Security having them work and pay SS taxes. Don't forget our country is aging big time. We as a whole are not having that many children. It is one family not everyone.

[smirkymonkey]

71. Thank YOU!

Excellent post.

[Wella]

93. I beg your pardon: pro-choice meant it was YOUR choice. Not anyone else's.

It did not mean that third parties could interpret your choices and tell you that you were wrong, wrong, wrong. If you choose to have an abortion, no one gets to tell you that's the wrong choice. If you decide to have many children, no one gets to tell you that's the wrong choice. Period.

You may disagree with how Mrs. Duggar has chosen to spend her life, but as a pro-choice person, one must respect her choice.

In the same way, if you decide to have only one child or no children, that is ALSO a choice and one must respect your choice.

[alp227]

96. "Respect others' opinions" is a very weak argument.

What happened to critical thinking? Not all opinions/choices are equally worthy. In my book "pro choice" is only in the eyes of the law - not MY eyes.

[Wella]

104. I said respect others' "choices".

Don't misquote me.

[alp227]

107. In any case, define what out means to respect

others' choices, our else that phrase is empty words to shut down thinking.

[Wella]

108. How about an apology first?

Then I'll think about granting your request.

[alp227]

109. OK I'm sorry for misinterpreting your post.

So what does it mean to respect others' choices?

[Wella]

111. Thank you. It means that you come from a philosophical world view of choice

You understand that different people can make different choices in regard to pregnancy and childbirth. It means that you philosophically respect a multitude of choices and don't eviscerate people for making those choices.

If a given woman wants to remain child-free through her life, she should be allowed to do that, and not be judged for not wanting children. It is a valid choice.

If a given woman wants a single child and no more, it is a valid choice.

If a given woman really wants to have a dozen or more children, it is a valid choice.

If a given woman wants to have an abortion, it is a valid choice.

If a given woman wants to carry a pregnancy to term and give the resulting child away for adoption, that is a valid choice.

If a given woman wants to carry a pregnancy to term and raise the child, regardless of her marital status or sexual orientation, that is a valid choice.

Your right to a choice is based on the rights of others to their choices. It is a philosophical position, but also a legal one. Roe v. Wade is based on the right to privacy in reproductive matters. Your right to an abortion is based on the right to privacy, and your right to make private decisions outside of government control. Mrs. Duggar's right to have many children is also based on her right to privacy, her right to make private decisions outside of government control.

If you are truly pro-choice, you respect the choices that others make based on their privacy rights (guaranteed by Roe v. Wade) and you respect their own ability to make those choices.

[alp227]

112. So can one be non judgmental while making an argument

about why choice x is superior to choice y, for instance?

[Wella]

116. Once you assign values to choices, you disrupt the general notion of choice and you invite criticism

of your own choices.

So, if you decide that the Duggars made a "less good" (worse?) choice, then you will have to be ready to defend your own choices and cannot philosophically fall back on a pro-choice argument. Let's say you have no children and one abortion. In a pro choice model, there is no judgement for that. Once you destroy the model by assessing value to the Duggars' choice, you open yourself up to people criticizing your choice. You cannot say, "It's my right to have an abortion, end of story," because it is the Duggar's right to have many children, end of story, but you have challenged that. So they would have a right to challenge you: under what circumstances did you have the abortion? Wouldn't it have been a better choice to let that child live and put it up for adoption? Etc.

Pro-choice is actually a difficult position because it requires philosophical consistency.

What some people actually are is "anti-population growth", not pro-choice. If you are "anti-population growth" you support fewer births, whether that is by abortion or birth control (family planning) and, very often, more deaths, as in assisted suicide or euthanasia. If this is your world view, then you are not pro-choice, you are anti-population, and you can criticize the Duggars from that perspective. But to be intellectually honest, you have to admit that you want the entire world to have that same world view for your goal to materialize. It is a short jump from wanting the world to agree with you to supporting legislation limiting family size (like they do in China). This, of course, counters the whole notion of reproductive privacy in Roe v. Wade. It makes reproduction a state matter, not a personal one.

I am a strong believer in the undergirding of Roe v. Wade: the right to reproductive privacy. I strongly believe in supporting the right of a woman to have zero children or many children, of having an abortion or choosing an adoption--all without government interference.

[hlthe2b]

98. You really...

need to get a clue.

[Wella]

105. I worked for a NARAL affiliate

I think I know what pro-choice is supposed to mean.

[hlthe2b]

118. Oh, really...

umm hmm.

[Wella]

121. Are you so accustomed to people lying that you can't comprehend when someone tells you the truth?

There's not much I can do about that.

[LondonReign2]

103. Seriously? You think pro-choice means you no longer

get to have an opinion on that choice?

[Wella]

106. It means that your philosophical world view should shape your opinion. If you are Pro-Choice, you

need to have an opinion consistent with that philosophy. Otherwise, it's called "hypocrisy".

[LondonReign2]

124. You're very confused as to what pro-choice means

Hint: It doesn't mean precluding disagreeing with the choice.

[Wella]

128. Ok. If I am confused, perhaps you can do what I have done: give a philosophical and legal perspectiv

on what pro-choice means to you.

[Wella]

129. I'm waiting. And I really will listen.

Write out your definition.

[Wella]

133. Still waiting....

Seriously. If you can't back up what you say, then don't say it.

[Wella]

141. Still waiting to see why I am confused

....

[HoustonDave]

134. Pretty freakin' judgemental, aren't you?

Got some bad news for you - some families welcome lots of kids and enjoy them. That doesn't mean the women are brood mares or that the men (or their churches) pressure them into it - they have large families because they WANT to. Kids are not indentured servants because they help out around the house - but it does help teach them about responsibility and personal obligation.

I personally would have no desire to have that many children, but think you could lighten up on their choices and could stop projecting so much into them. Just an opinion.

[hlthe2b]

140. when men decide to relegate women to the role of brood mare--mere chattel for more and more children

than is healthy either for the woman or the children-- and thus relegate the children to raising the younger siblings and losing their childhood to indentured servitude, you are DAMNED right I am judgmental. Damn them all. Children deserve a childhood. Women deserve to be treated like human beings. We aren't talking a "large" family of five or eight or even ten---we are talking 19 children!

And those who defend women being treated like this are again, free to enjoy the hell of their own making.

[Mariana]

51. Absolutely pro-choice.

Criticizing someone's decisions in no way denies her right to make those decisons.

[Travis_0004]

52. so its ok to protest outside an abortion clinic

As long as they are just critizing a womans decision?

[Mariana]

56. Criticizing someone's decisions in no way denies her right to make those decisions.

[Wella]

95. Not immediately. But societal judgements can quickly become laws that deny people rights

That's why you must separate your philosophical outlook from your kneejerk reactions.

[alp227]

97. You and I know protesting outside clinics is far beyond mere criticism.

It's intimidation/coercion/discouragement. Otherwise why would the protesters spend all that energy going to clinics?

[LanternWaste]

91. So much for rational thought...

So much for rational thought...

[liberal_at_heart]

117. Pretty ridiculous isn't it? Those who don't want to have a baby must have the choice not to, but

those who want to have more than what is socially acceptable should be shunned. It's really not worth the argument. You're not going to get these so called pro choice people to agree to allow conservatives to have as many children as they want.

[nomorenomore08]

36. My dad's parents had 9 kids (8 still living) and I love all my aunts and uncles dearly.

Nonetheless, I still think the Duggars are idiots. Frightening idiots at that.

[hlthe2b]

37. Large families, especially during the depression and in rural areas was the norm.

Childhood mortality rates have, for centuries driven such decisions--rather understandably. But, even in those times, 19 children would have been excessive to most. AND, this is a very different time.

[nomorenomore08]

38. All very true. Though my dad's family was neither rural nor extremely poor, just Catholic.

[smirkymonkey]

43. +1000

[Orsino]

143. We needn't hate the children or the parents.

Just the profound narcissism, xenophobia and conspicuous consumption that Quiverfulls confuse with virtue.

[Rex]

3. But God himself used magic to create the universe and everything in it.

It says so right in the Bible.

[Orsino]

88. Yes. Belief in magic isn't in question.

They just hate rival magicians.

[Wella]

94. The Bible doesn't say it was "magic". That's your interpretation.

No one has a real clue as to why life exists at all and why there's not just nothing. Religious traditions give certain guesses about how this was accomplished. You can think they are non-scientific (which they are) but you can't assume they all refer to magic.

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. I could never get 19 pumpkins to grow from the same vine.

Just sayin'

[elehhhhna]

6. Try talking fucking babytalk in a breathy Marilyn voice

into your 40's. Seems to work for stupid Mrs. Duggar. Oh, and make the first pumpkins fucking raise the rest of the pumpkins, yanno - Ponziparenting.

[Worried senior]

28. I can't get pumpkins

to grow at all.

[elehhhhna]

5. Read "Zealot". All the other messiah-type-guys back in the day,

and there were many - wereblown off by the early Christians as Magicians -m a very highly perjorative term.

Of course Moses allegedly pulled a ton of magic-y shit prior to Jesus, but HE was DIFFERENT. Says who? The editors. Fuck all that shit and the crazy Tali-Duggs.

Also, their smarmy, soft, uneducated first son (Jackas, maybe? can't recall his stupid J name) is a fucking dipshit.

[Tom Ripley]

83. "Moses was but a juggler" according to Christopher Marlowe

[shenmue]

7. These people are not fun.

I had Halloween every year as a kid, and I still don't worship Satan. So there, Duggars.

[wandy]

8. Beware of the magic in that appliance from hell you are typing on.........

It is not a joke in god's eyes and once the blue smoke and magic escape it you will be rendered into the dark ages.

Or at least I'm beginning to understand how the dark ages happened. Dugger like primitives fearing magic, sorcery, witches, spell-casting and harmless things they don't understand.

[Jamastiene]

76. It is a miracle mankind ever learned how to make fire.

It is also a miracle mankind invented light bulbs. We would all still be sitting in caves eating raw meat in the dark if people like the Duggars had their way.

[jmowreader]

132. If blue smoke escapes from his appliance from hell, he needs to quit buying the cheap ones

[liberal_at_heart]

13. crotch-fruit? That's how you refer to children? Wow. Do you aspire to be as hateful as the

people you criticize?

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

14. Crotch-fruit?

Disgusting term.

Terms like that come out of very, very ugly people.

[Dreamer Tatum]

18. Disgusting. Seriously. nt

[Nye Bevan]

33. Excellent hide. Thanks jury! (nt)

[Rex]

50. My my...poster been here since 2002

yet just started posting. I do hope they enjoy their stay.

[greyl]

62. Where did you get the (wrong) idea they just started posting? nt

[Rex]

63. Their profile, didn't you know that? nt

[greyl]

64. No, their profile doesn't say they just started posting.

A simple search shows your statement was false, and should probably be retracted for the sake of honesty.

[Rex]

65. Sure right, I see now.

Have a great night.

[City Lights]

10. Maybe I will go as a Duggar this year.

[FrodosPet]

11. The Baptist preacher in my neighborhood had the best candy and decorations

Then again, his church used to feed the homeless and welcomed everyone regardless of race or national origin, so he wasn't exactly a stereotypical right-winger.

I don't believe in the supernatural. But I always have, and always will, respect him, his generous spirit, and his commitment to everyday people.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. I was hoping to conjur a demon out of my anus, this Halloween.

I figured the ol' neighborhood would get a kick out of that.

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. Rent a Dick Cheney costume, less risk of hurting yourself,

and the results will be the same.

[pinboy3niner]

23. Warren does that the rest of the year

For Halloween he tries to do something different.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. I actually AM Dick Cheney.

And now you figured me out! Curses!

[JI7]

16. but they dressed up as a Cow to get a free meal from Chick Fila

[cyberswede]

17. You would, too, if you had to come up with 19 costume ideas.

[Neoma]

19. Why give them any publicity?

[Calista241]

114. They have a friggin TV show about them and their kids.

That i have never, ever seen and have no desire to. I don't think a thread on DU is significantly going to impact their public perception.

[Neoma]

123. I don't even watch TV.

Bad publicity is good publicity for these folks. Why should anyone give a shit about these people?

[BlueJazz]

20. After clicking on the link, I felt like I was mugged. Geezzzz

[hobbit709]

21. the highly improbable magic events in the bible are "miracles"

All other highly improbable magic events are demonic.

[catbyte]

22. Blecch.

[Stellar]

25. hmm...I thought most Christians thought Halloween was demonic.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

31. Far from it!

My church is going to have a big Halloween bash.

No super scary costume because of the little kids, but you don't have to dress as a pumpkin, either.

And heaven forbid, our pastor loves Harry Potter!

[Archae]

45. Every year I read about churches that put on a "Hell House."

Supposed to scare the kiddies into being Christians.

Shows terrible stuff, dope addicts, abortions, all the fundy bugaboos.

Talk about stupid.

[Stellar]

48. Get out....really?!

I guess it takes all kinds.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

73. Most churches are not "fundy" churches

Although most churches share a bit of fundamentalist elements here and there. That's ok, though. No one on this board completely agrees, either.

[Jenoch]

39. The church I attended as a child

had a special service on October 31st that was for rememberng those who have died.

[Stellar]

46. That still sound kind of erie.

Things have changed since I was a child I guess.

[Jenoch]

59. November 1st is All Saints Day.

I suppose to those who did not grow up ij the Christian faith (which I understand is looked down upon by many DUsrs) it is erie.

For a party that regularly proclaims tolerance, I find some irony when it comes to religion.

[yeoman6987]

67. I do too

Tolerance only if agreed on the subject matter. Always shake my head with that one.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

27. Birth control is also magic

Too bad nobody every waved that wand over these assholes.

[freshwest]

130. Everything about female anatomy is magic to them. Like The Wandering Wombs:

The Wandering Womb : A Cultural History of Outrageous Beliefs About Woman

Female anatomy, especially the womb, has for centuries been shrouded in mystery and misunderstanding, defining the social place of women in male dominated cultures. Even with advances in medicine, some in today's society believe they can control women's sexual identity.

The Wandering Womb is a provocative tour through religious, medical, and social histories, pinpointing humorous, outrageous, and hair-raising beliefs, practices, and longstanding falsehoods that permeate human cultures. In Egyptian times, it was believed that the womb was an entity unto itself capable of "wandering" in the body, and also into the world beyond in search of nourishment! This idea, and many others were entwined in medical ignorance and religious superstition, which have often labeled women as incomplete, inferior, imperfect, and even inherently evil.

Sexual myths have viewed menstruation as dirty, designing outrageous rituals around this natural process, from strange diets and prescriptions to mandated isolation and violent practices. Sexuality and desire in women has been viewed as taboo and dangerous, while child rearing is considered the highest calling. In Western history, women's health problems were often written off simply as an "unsatisfied uterus," or "hysteria" of their weak and demon possessed bodies, while physical characteristics were used to label women as witches.

This fascinating, often maddening romp through the bedrooms and birthing rooms of time illustrates why women have been sexually "enslaved," and reminds us that we've come a long way from the mythical virgin birth to women's liberation and beyond.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1573922641/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=35012767164&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=s&hvrand=13428328478262683615&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_4iuijz8lka_b

The first review is also good, but it was written back in 1999. I think the country has regressed to something slighter newer than 3000 B.C. with the GOP take over of school boards and churches.

[elleng]

29. That's because All Saints are Demons, right???

[pinboy3niner]

32. We need our own cable news network to expose the dirty truth about the War on Halloween!

[Jamastiene]

77. I will apply for a job there.

There really is a War on Halloween. Seeing Rudolph and Santa standing next to witches and pumpkins is kind of odd, but at Lowes in my hometown last year, that is exactly what happened. I actually like Christmas too, but not before Halloween.

[JustAnotherGen]

34. Well of COURSE they think that!

Eh? I'd rather hang with those who practice earth religions anyways.

[AverageJoe90]

40. Not surprised, sadly.

They're basically Fundies.....and southern Fundies at that.

[Scootaloo]

41. Can you imagine 19 kids hopped up on halloween candy?

"Demonic" is a pretty accurate term for that, I think!

[pinboy3niner]

42. You may have a point!!!

[maryellen99]

44. But these same people scream that liberals are waging a war on Christmas

But nobody cares that the religious right has been waging a war on Halloween.

[shenmue]

126. DUzy

[CANDO]

47. Side hug!

Mrs Duggar is a stepford wife. She's always way too chilled out for a mother with 19 kids. She so non chalant in her demeanor it frightens me.

[Archae]

49. The few times I actually saw her...

She seemed to be brainwashed.

"Gawd told me to do everything my husband wants!"

[tabbycat31]

60. She does not actually raise the kids

Her older daughters do. There was one episode of the show where she was trying to get her younger kids to do something and they would not listen to her, but listened to an older daughter. Two of the younger girls, Jennifer and Jordyn (#17 and #18) barely get any attention from her at all and Jennifer responds better to (now married and pregnant) Jill instead of Michelle. Jordyn truly is the lost girl because she was less than 1 when Josie (youngest, born very premature) was born.

I think she's on many meds and that's what is causing her to act the way she does.

And I really want one of those kids to rebel and take a few siblings with him/her. And I'd love to see the episode "A Duggar Comes Out."

(Their TV show is one of my guilty pleasures).

[yeoman6987]

68. Lol. A special Duggar episode

I can see it now. I watch too occasionally.

[3catwoman3]

53. At the pediatric office where I work...

...we can dress up on Halloween if we choose to, as long as it is not creepy axe murderer type stuff. I usually opt for a cape and a pointy wizard type hat. One year, a mom looked at me very severely, and announced, "WE don't celebrate the devil's birthday." After being briefly at a loss for words, I simply said, "Neither do I."

[mnhtnbb]

80. Good comeback. I would probably have made some snotty remark

like, "Well, give yourself a pat on the back for being so holy."

And gotten myself fired!

[Ilsa]

54. They don't understand what Hallowe'en is.

It's intended to be fun to mock death and winter and short days right before All Saint's Day and All Soul's Day, or Dia de los Inocentes and Dia de los Muertas on Nov. 1st and 2nd.

[Mariana]

57. And they would say YOU don't understand it. nt.

[HughBeaumont]

55. Buncha religion-poisoned homophobe hatemongers is all they are.

Jawsh Duggar is the poster boy for wingnut welfare.

[flamingdem]

58. It IS, that's what's

good about it.

[pinboy3niner]

61. Nominations for the subject of our annual satanic curse are now closed--we have a winner!

[Initech]

69. They probably hang out with this woman on the weekends.

[Arugula Latte]

70. They don't like "magic," but they are fine with a book of stories about a talking snake,

a burning bush, a dead guy who turns out to be a zombie, cannibalism, and creatures including unicorns, satyrs, cockatrices (rooster-serpents that kill when looked upon), and a race of giants. Oh, and there are lots of lovely little stories such as this one:

Judges 19:22-30:
A man and his concubine are wandering the streets when they decide to seek shelter for the night, and find a man kind enough to let them stay. That night however, a group of men turn up at the door and demand to see the guest so that they may have sex with him. The owner is unwilling to let his male lodger be raped and so offers up his virgin daughter instead. However, this is still not good enough for the men, so the owner offers them his guest’s concubine and the men accept. The men brutally rape the woman and leave her on the doorstep where she bleeds to death. If that is not enough, when she is found by her husband, he chops her up into twelve pieces which he sends to each of the twelve tribes of Israel.

[smirkymonkey]

72. WTF?

Is that actually a story in the bible?

If so, it's no wonder they are so f***ed up.

[Jamastiene]

79. Yes, it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot_%28biblical_person%29#Lot_flees_Sodom

Don't forget to read about Lot and his Daughters right after that...it's part of the same story.

I'd much rather carve a pumpkin, eat some of it, freeze the rest, and watch horror movies all night one night a year than live THAT reality the entire year.

[Jamastiene]

78. Don't forget Lott and his daughters, who take turns having sex with papa in a cave

later after that happened. You missed the grand finale of that part.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot_%28biblical_person%29#Lot_and_his_daughters

[Arugula Latte]

136. Those are some wholesome family values right there!

No wonder people want to use this book to guide their lives.



Ugh.

[Jamastiene]

139. Tell me about it.

And THAT is the story they use to beat gay people over the head with the Bible. Un-fricken-believable.

[LibertyLover]

74. Of course they consider it demonic -

they are extremely conservative fundy Christians, probably with little or no sense of humor or knowledge of history. Honestly, it would be a news story if these idiots came out and said they liked the holiday, encouraged their children to participate in trick-or-treating and celebrated it each year with a big party for the entire neighborhood. The OP in entirely correctly - why is anybody surprised? What also doesn't surprise me is that the Duggars don't know that Halloween really is a Christian holiday, the eve of All Saints' Day. Besides, witches don't celebrate Halloween either - but ask us about Samhain.

[Jamastiene]

75. I haven't kept up with those weird ass people.

Are they from my area of the country? They have Hell Houses down here instead of Haunted Houses and it's freaking backasswards. I was just wondering if they are from the Bible Belt. Or do other areas have backasswards people who go to extremes to appear holier-than-thou like that too?

[maryellen99]

82. They're based in Arkansas I think nt

[CountAllVotes]

81. *eek*

and to think I thought that 8 was enough!

Yikes!!

[benld74]

84. Perhaps if people would not watch their silly reality

show, they would slowly disappear

[6000eliot]

85. Overpopulation is demonic.

[hunter]

86. I'm offended. I consider Halloween as Christ's true birthday.

The Christmas Creche, with baby Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and the Three Wise Werewolves is a big hit with neighbors. Their favorite part is the gory realistic crucifixions in the background, randomly and shockingly lit by simulated lightening and thunder. Oh, yeah, there's also a burning bush speaking in tongues. If you listen long enough you can almost make out the words. It's rather like a Rorschach test. The faithful will hear God just as they might see images of Christ or the Virgin Mary on their toast.

Okay, can I be a television celebrity now?

[Orsino]

87. The quiverful thing requires a quantity-over-quality mindset...

...akin to trying to set a record for most marriages. It relegates women to the nurseries. Go thou forth and raise up an army of believers to fight for Jesus!

Military recruiters with such mandates cut a lot of corners, too.

[Raffi Ella]

89. I feel so sorry for the Duggar kids.

They're so isolated and controlled and watched that they are not able to think for themselves, and if they try to they are "trained" out of it.

It fascinates me that the older children continue to go along with it. I realize it's hard to break away, almost impossible really, but still. I keep hoping to see some glimmer of independent thought from one of the kids...

[tabbycat31]

90. There's one that was sent to boot camp

Well a Christian boot camp. He strikes me as a likely rebel (and probably gay) and I think Dim Bulb, err Jim Bob saw the writing on the wall.

He just turned 18 and I would love to be his gateway to escape.

[libodem]

92. Of courrrrse

There are no seasons. There is to time to be born. No time to die. To time to sow. No time to reap.

Death does not happen on God's watch? Right?

Big ol' sarcasm tag:

[ellie]

99. Fuck these people

Who cares what they think?

[leftyladyfrommo]

100. Buying all those costumes would bankrupt them.

Do Evangelicals not allow Halloween, either?

[tularetom]

101. Isn't it statistically likely that at least one little Duggar or Duggarette would be gay?

I want to see the show where they discover that.

[SummerSnow]

102. The father is a card carrying Republican....

who served in the Arkansas House of Representatives. They also endorsed Rick Santorum for President.Demonic for sure.

[JCMach1]

110. Remind me why these asshats are on TV again?

[truebrit71]

113. Who gives a shit?

Stupid fucking religious breeders...

[GReedDiamond]

115. Well. the Duggars are DUMBonic...nt

[liberal_at_heart]

120. I could care less what they believe especially about Halloween. What I care about is them

trying to influence politics. I heard Mrs. Duggar had some pretty nasty things to say about a law that was being proposed to protect transgender people. That is what we should be outraged about. Who gives a shit what they believe about Halloween?

[Arkana]

125. I'm not shocked, but why again do we care

what Baby Factory Inc. has to say about anything?

[LibDemAlways]

127. A Duggar daughter recently married a

guy who grew up celebrating Halloween. There's photographic evidence of him carving a jack-o-lantern as a kid. He also attended a secular university and dressed up as the school mascot. His mother is a career woman who wears pants. Hoping some of this rubs off on his wife and she enters the 20th century at some point.

[Arugula Latte]

137. A woman wearing pants?!?!

Jezebel!!!

[eridani]

131. Planet-killing over-reproduction is a lot more demonic n/t

[HuckleB]

135. F-them! I have one kid, and it's the best "holiday" of the year to him.

Yep. Decorations are already up!!!!

[Marrah_G]

138. Don't much care what they think or say

[Orsino]

142. Do they also believe in elves?

It's just rival wizards they object to, right?