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Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:51 AM

What is this REALLY all about?

I don't believe that any of this crap against women is about any moral ideology...although I do think that is being used as the vehicle.

I mean seriously?

The hell that is being wrought upon women is designed to make just "being a woman" sheer hell.

Take away contraception, take away abortion access, take away healthcare, take away choices...

and in the end...the result...is that you take away JOBS.

Women won't be good candidates for employment because their uterus will control their life...and it will be a reason for women to become second class citizens again.

And ultimately, men will take control of women. Again.

This is pure politics. Women are the largest segment of voters. Republicans would rather women be picking out vacuum cleaners than picking a President.

It isn't about ideology. It is about controlling the resources and assets and MILITARY of this country and women are a seen as a threat against the status quo. We are very close to electing a woman for POTUS. National priorities WILL likely change when that happens. That is what THIS is all about.

But lemme tell you something you bunch of knuckle-dragging neanderthals...I am woman, hear me ROAR!

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Horse with no Name Apr 2012 OP
Auggie Apr 2012 #1
get the red out Apr 2012 #2
DCKit Apr 2012 #5
Lucy Goosey Apr 2012 #3
Horse with no Name Apr 2012 #4
hifiguy Apr 2012 #14
SunSeeker Apr 2012 #17
dkf Apr 2012 #6
laundry_queen Apr 2012 #19
HangOnKids Apr 2012 #20
eridani Apr 2012 #25
evilhime Apr 2012 #7
whathehell Apr 2012 #22
snappyturtle Apr 2012 #8
MineralMan Apr 2012 #9
spooky3 Apr 2012 #10
marshall gaines Apr 2012 #11
Pachamama Apr 2012 #12
Myrina Apr 2012 #13
Horse with no Name Apr 2012 #23
MADem Apr 2012 #29
SHRED Apr 2012 #15
saras Apr 2012 #16
flamin lib Apr 2012 #18
BadgerKid Apr 2012 #21
bongbong Apr 2012 #24
Quantess Apr 2012 #27
Aerows Apr 2012 #26
MADem Apr 2012 #28
ohheckyeah Apr 2012 #30

Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:57 AM

1. "A threat against the status quo ..."

Hasn't that always been the case? You nailed it.

Recommended.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:07 AM

2. Bingo!

Solution for moving so many jobs overseas? Eliminate a large percentage of the US workforce. That is probably also in there.

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Response to get the red out (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:21 AM

5. Except they're moving the markets with the jobs.

 

Nobody here is going to be able to afford their goods and services.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:14 AM

3. They'd take away women's suffrage if they could.

K&R

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Response to Lucy Goosey (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:16 AM

4. I suspect that is on their Santa list. n/t

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:27 AM

14. Without question.

It's yet another kook talking point that will be mainstreamed by the M$M in the next few years.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:51 AM

17. It's on Ann Coulter's list.

She actually heard her speak at a college where she said that the voting age should be raised and women be denied the vote altogether because it would allow more Republicans to get into office (yes, there were loud boos from the audience).

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:21 AM

6. Most of the marriages I see are run by the women.

 

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Response to dkf (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:09 PM

19. wtf kind of comment is that?


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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:20 PM

20. A Very Silly One

 

Marriages aren't a business. Partners do not "run" each other.

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Response to dkf (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 04:38 PM

25. Being responsible for most of the emotional maintenance is WORK--

--not privilege.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:43 AM

7. Nailed it!!!

When I was a recent college graduate in 1969, I interviewed for a job and was told, quite frankly, by the interviewer that though I am well qualified and he is confident I was capable of doing an excellent job, they didn't want to spend the time and money training me only to lose me when I got pregnant which he was SURE would happen sooner rather than later. For the record, I wasn't dating anyone seriously (or really casually either) at that time, so not married, or in a long term relationship . . . but it was the view at the time and they got away with it.

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Response to evilhime (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:48 PM

22. They used to have separate job listings in the newpaper. One for "Male", the other for "Female".

My forty year old niece was shocked by that information!.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:48 AM

8. I was 'put in my place' last Monday by a sheriff's deputy and my ex.

I am 64 and I was robbed. "They" don't want to look at the
security camera videos because basically it's too much work
and involves a lot of legal mumbo jumbo. I 'probably' just
misplaced these huge items being post menopausal and all.
The deputy decided after a 3 minute phone conversation that
my ex didn't sound guilty! He actually told me that! After all
the deputy has a whole 11 yrs. under his belt in the business.
There even more to this disgusting story; I remain seething!

I haven't yet figured out how to check mate but I will! I know
I'm smarter than, how did you put it, a couple of "knuckle-
dragging neanderthals" !

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:50 AM

9. You're absolutely right. The goal is to remove rights from women.

We can't let them do that. And by we, I mean men, too. I'll be standing right beside you in the fight.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:04 AM

10. +1

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:05 AM

11. rights

 

I seriously don't think women will lose rights any time soon, nationally. But just remember as their rights disappear, the only ones that will end up with rights are the right wing white males and possibly fellow travelers of right wing white males.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:20 AM

12. It seems the only "Woman's Right" the GOP wants to fight for is a Right to be a Stay-at-home Mom

Good for the one who "married right" but too bad if you are a single mother or "other" that they dont want to provide affordable healthcare, housing or education for.....forget access for those women to contraception to prevent unwanted pregnancy (because you shouldnt as a woman have any sex for pleasure, only procreation) and prevent and make near impossible access to any abortion services and make sure you are raped with a transvaginal probe should you want one, but also prevent you from pre-natal care for the pregnancy and prevent mammograms and pap smears for breast and cervical cancer etc....

Top that off with no equal pay for any work "outside of the home" and voila, you have the view of the GOP for women's rights......And their view of women and what the role of women and "place" should be....

Its actually very obvious and simple....Control and putting us in our place....

I have news for the GOP.....not going to happen....

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:22 AM

13. .... historically it's just a distraction ...

... from the fact that the GOP has no plans for the economy and no defense against the very obvious evidence that they're only all about making the rich, richer.

'Personal issues' usually get trotted out by the party with no answers to the seriously pressing economic questions.

However, I think the insanity of the Talibornagains has driven the GOP party-proper's platform even further into la-la land this election cycle so they're not just giving lip service to 'morals' and 'social conservatism', they're being forced to actually get on the crazy train. I think they've gotten themselves trapped in a corner by their own spawn.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:25 PM

23. Unlike a lot of the other culture wars

they are actually enacting legislation across the country to make this happen.

Talking about it is over. It is happening.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #23)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:15 PM

29. 21st Century Gilded Age... nt

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:34 AM

15. Ann, "It's a full-time job...



...making sure the maids clean the house, the Nannies pick up after the kids, and the gardeners rake all the leaves properly!"

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:38 AM

16. Their "goal" is FAR BEYOND taking women's rights. That's a trivial, obvious step to them...

 

...it's necessary for the next steps...

....which involve taking all power from MEN that don't support their value system, hence fanatical religion
...and taking over the process of childrearing, hence no public schools
...and converting "work" into indentured servitude, hopefully signed up for while still in school (or the womb, hence fetal life)
...at which point there's nothing preventing them from developing torture into a televised art form

They have been talking about all these things for decades, in think tanks, public speeches, and private conversations.

As far as I can tell, the PURPOSE of the plan, what they WANT, is suffering. No more, no less. They'll talk religion when it gets them support from fundamentalists, but don't bother when the wealthy are talking to each other.

But to assume that they're skilled enough at economics to deliberately plan to disempower all women just to get jobs for guys, and at the same time stupid enough to believe both that they will get away with it AND that it will actually provide jobs for men?

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:02 PM

18. "What is this REALLY all about?"

The Hokey Pokey???

Sorry but somebody had to say it . . .

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:23 PM

21. As I see it, the goal is control.

The strategies are include religion, gender, the economy, globalism.
The tactics include wedge issues, social stigma, political stigma, lower taxes/starve funding.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:02 PM

24. Two Things

 

1) Divide & Conquer, std strategy of the 1%
2) create wedge issues to distract from the GOP crimes - although this is just a variant of #1

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Response to bongbong (Reply #24)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 04:41 PM

27. STD strategy???

Oh you meant standard strategy. It took me a few seconds.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 04:39 PM

26. Control

plain and simple. Divide, conquer because you turn people against each other. In this one, however, I think the GOP has messed up big time and don't quite realize it yet.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:14 PM

28. Well--think about it. Women get paid less than men.


Women have lost fewer jobs in this difficult economy than men have (of course, they work for less).

So try this theory on for size:

You fire all those women, or "attrite" them as a consequence of unintended pregnancy or other issues related to reduced access to health care or child care, thanks to GOP "leadership" on these matters. You replace them with men, see? Then the men can pat themselves on the back and say that the GOP solution benefitted employment--even though it only increased it for the men (many of whom will vote for the GOP, even against their own interests).

And you can tell those menfolk that they'll get the same pay the last occupant of the job got, see?

It's an artsy-fartsy way to depress wages...!

Mendacious, and only a theory...but nothing would surprise me.

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Response to Horse with no Name (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:31 PM

30. Of course it's about keeping women in the kitchen and out of the work force.

I posted this the other day:

In the 2007 census white women made up 33.6% of the population while white males made up 32%. 2

If those statistics surprise you, consider these statistics from Mauricio Velasquez, President DTG:3

Women in the U.S. spend more than $3.3 trillion annually (Source: Women and Diversity, WOW Facts 2001 – Business Women’s Network)
Women business owners employ 35% more people than all the Fortune 500 companies combined (Source: Women and Diversity, WOW Facts 2001 – Business Women’s Network)
95% of family financial decisions are made by women (Source: Women and Diversity, WOW Facts 2001 – Business Women’s Network)
Women own more than 47% of the stocks (Source: Peter Hart and NASD and the Investment Institute)
Today there are 9.1 million women-owned businesses in the U.S., representing nearly 40% of all businesses (Sources: NFWBO and SBA)
They employ 27.5 million people and generate more than $3.6 trillion in sales (Sources: NFWBO and SBA)
Women are starting new firms at twice the rate of all other businesses (Sources: NFWBO and SBA)
SOURCE

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