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Fri Apr 13, 2012, 06:58 AM

Arizona Passes Bible Study Law In Public Schools

Arizona passes law that will allow Bible course in public schools. So much for separation of church and state.

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Reply Arizona Passes Bible Study Law In Public Schools (Original post)
TheMastersNemesis Apr 2012 OP
FreakinDJ Apr 2012 #1
RegieRocker Apr 2012 #2
teenagebambam Apr 2012 #3
Daniel537 Apr 2012 #4
Bigmack Apr 2012 #5
JoePhilly Apr 2012 #8
Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #6
obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #7
spanone Apr 2012 #9
hifiguy Apr 2012 #10
Horse with no Name Apr 2012 #11
Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #12
el_bryanto Apr 2012 #13
TheMastersNemesis Apr 2012 #14
CK_John Apr 2012 #15
Greybnk48 Apr 2012 #16

Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:51 AM

1. I would have no problem with TRUE theology being taught as an elective course

This Horse shit being handed out as the gospel truth that was the product of dumpster diving through the bible and perverting it's message for their own self-seeking purposes ain't nothin but a RATpubliCON Lawmaker in Preacher's clothing

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:26 AM

2. Lol prayer was in schools from the beginning.

 

Schools were never included in the separation of church and state. Religion, mainly Christianity was a mainstay. That is fact. However church and state separation is good and promoting one type of religion is bad.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:48 AM

3. Context?

Is it an elective course or required? Is it a religious course or a History/Lit course?

As a music teacher, there's about 500 years of western music history that's awfully hard to cover if students don't at least have a passing knowledge of Christianity. Art history, too.

I took a Bible Literature class in my public high school and still managed to end up gay, agnostic, and a Democrat.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:01 AM

4. As long as its elective and not mandatory, i don't see a problem. n/t

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:19 AM

5. They're gonna be sorrrrrryyyyy!

Kids will get a look at the Bible... the whole Bible.

Warts and all.

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Response to Bigmack (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:34 AM

8. I agree. The fundies who push this stuff aren't too bright ...

They've been indoctrinating their kids in the same church from birth. In that church, you have a bunch of people who all believe the same basic things. Certain religious doctrine is highlighted, other doctrine is downplayed. Consider the role of Mary in Catholicism versus Mary in Evangelical groups. Mary's role and importance varies greatly.

So when they open this up in a school setting, they've expanded the playing field and their children will be exposed to a wider view of the bible than they would ever get in their own church basement.

The other thing is that these folks are the same folks who generally hate public school teachers. But now they want them teaching bible classes?

Then, there is all of the sex in the old testament. All of the crazy laws.

My kids would be going to school each day with a list of questions regarding the various descrepencies in the bible.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:22 AM

6. But Mexican-American studies are banned in Tucson.

Wtf.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:26 AM

7. Will religious texts from other religions be allowed to be studied?

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:36 AM

9. how about koran study? mormonism? atheism?

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:54 AM

10. Arizona is officially an open-air lunatic asylum.

This and http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002555544 prove it beyond all doubt. Build a wall around the goddamn state so none of these batshit crazies can infect the rest of the country.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:14 AM

11. I'd love to teach this course. n/t

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:17 AM

12. I have no problem with studying fiction

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:19 AM

13. Do you have a link?

Thank you.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:31 AM

14. The Problem With The Law

The problem with the law is that is specifies the Bible. I am sure that if it were the Koran or any other religious writing there would be a revolution by the RW. Yet they are ok with banning Spanish cultural courses. It is another back door way of imposing religious beliefs on others. Even if the course is elective it does not belong in a public school curriculum. Like a Tiger and its stripes, you cannot separate the Bible and the Christian religion.

I went to Vietnam as a draftee. Now I wonder is I should have gone to Canada instead. We have to many RW crackers in this country who want to make this a White Supremacist Christian nation. I oppose them just as much as I opposed the VC or NVA in Vietnam. The are poison to the nation. They are just as dangerous an enemy as any other we fought.

I know that religion is supposedly taboo as general discussion, but the RW has made this entire campaign about religion being in the forefront of our public policy. They insist that they have religious freedom to insist that our laws affecting nonbelievers be passed in accordance with their beliefs.

So if you believe prayer will heal that you can stop medical care and replace it with prayer.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:54 AM

15. This is their plan to shut down the Public Schools. How, They know this will end up

in the courts. The court will order the law void, the state will defy the court and close the schools. Then setup a fee only religious/magnet type schools for the 1% and home schooling for the 99%.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:12 AM

16. I'm 63. I can remember having to start every day with the Lord's Prayer.

My family was not religious at all and half of my class in 4th 5th and 6th grade was Jewish. I look back on that now with amazement.

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