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Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:24 AM

Communists!

Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

I believe there is about 78 to 81 members of the Democratic Party that are members of the Communist Party.
- Rep. Allen West (Republican, Florida 22nd)




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Reply Communists! (Original post)
ellisonz Apr 2012 OP
silverweb Apr 2012 #1
99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #2
silverweb Apr 2012 #8
ellisonz Apr 2012 #9
YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #11
silverweb Apr 2012 #26
99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #17
silverweb Apr 2012 #24
silverweb Apr 2012 #27
99th_Monkey Apr 2012 #28
silverweb Apr 2012 #29
JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2012 #3
SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #18
ellisonz Apr 2012 #20
Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #4
ellisonz Apr 2012 #6
GoCubsGo Apr 2012 #5
SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #19
hifiguy Apr 2012 #7
Tennessee Gal Apr 2012 #10
YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #12
Tennessee Gal Apr 2012 #14
YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #15
Rex Apr 2012 #13
MrScorpio Apr 2012 #16
white_wolf Apr 2012 #21
sadbear Apr 2012 #22
DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #32
RZM Apr 2012 #23
ellisonz Apr 2012 #25
socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #30
DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #31

Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:43 AM

1. The Internationale unites the human race.



The Internationale
Sung by Billy Bragg

Stand up, all victims of oppression
For the tyrants fear your might
Don't cling so hard to your possessions
For you have nothing, if you have no rights
Let racist ignorance be ended
For respect makes the empires fall
Freedom is merely privilege extended
Unless enjoyed by one and all.

So come brothers and sisters
For the struggle carries on
The Internationale
Unites the world in song
So comrades come rally
For this is the time and place
The international ideal
Unites the human race.

Let no one build walls to divide us
Walls of hatred nor walls of stone
Come greet the dawn and stand beside us
We'll live together or we'll die alone
In our world poisoned by exploitation
Those who have taken, now they must give
And end the vanity of nations
We've but one Earth on which to live.

So come brothers and sisters
For the struggle carries on
The Internationale
Unites the world in song
So comrades come rally
For this is the time and place
The international ideal
Unites the human race.

And so begins the final drama
In the streets and in the fields
We stand unbowed before their armour
We defy their guns and shields
When we fight, provoked by their aggression
Let us be inspired by life and love
For though they offer us concessions
Change will not come from above.

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Response to silverweb (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 06:49 AM

2. EEeeek!! Oh noes!!! Not the commies again!!!

Just like birth control, abortion, gay rights, etc.

This kind of commie-phobia shit was settled decades ago,
and exposed to be utterly bankrupt of any credibility.

These rat-bastards really are trying to literally turn
the clock back to 1955.

Fuck them, and the Trojan Horse they came in on.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 06:53 PM

8. I'm with you!

What irritates me most is that most Americans have no idea what the difference is between communism and socialism, or really much of any idea what they actually stand for and why. They've been culturally indoctrinated to a pavlovian negative response to the terms alone without any thought or understanding at all.

One person I know well has ranted on and on about the evils of "socialized medicine," even while her husband was receiving fully paid for care from the VA and she was griping about hating the insurance company that provides her Medicare supplementation. She has absolutely zero insight into the contradictions in her position.

She has ranted, "No one loves this country anymore. They don't hang the flag every day like I do." Also, "They don't appreciate our freedom. I can go into any store and find whatever I want from anywhere in the world."

This is where we are as a culture. Hanging a flag is love of country, and freedom is shopping choices. It's sickening to me.

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Response to silverweb (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:20 PM

9. That's because it's Godless...

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:29 PM

11. Yeah, because Russian Orthodox is so freaking Liberal.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 03:49 AM

26. Must be.

Even more than that, though, the undertones I get are anger and deep, deep resentment that a socialist or communist system requires that everyone receives equal benefit, including those who "haven't earned it" and "don't deserve it."

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Response to silverweb (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 04:39 AM

17. "The Tension of the Opposites"?

May be an interesting phrase 4 U to research,

As it was one of Jung's ways of describing our
human predicament, & THE alchemical way
"out of it" ... is by totally engaging and going
THROUGH it ... all the way through to the end,
whatsoever that may mean.

As a tension arising between two polar
opposites, constellates with enough energy,
to blow the fucking lid completely off,
in the best of ways.
whatever.


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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 12:24 AM

24. I'll definitely research that.

I'm not very well versed in Jung, but what little I do know of his work is fascinating.

Thanks!

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 03:53 PM

27. Looked it up.

I have read about the concept in the past, just didn't recognize the official phrase. If I understand it correctly, it's the idea of recognizing both the positives and negatives in oneself and others with compassion, simply observing and attempting to understand them, and allowing them to organically resolve into a new, unified wholeness.

I remember reading about how everyone thinks they are doing "good" when they pursue a certain course (even if it has objectively evil results), and it's important to understand just how they/we perceive/define that "good" and why. As in language, it's critical to define one's terms and not make assumptions about what they mean to others.

The same is also true for dealing with the negatives in oneself. Get to the root of them, define them, and there's generally fear of some kind, which can often be transformed through understanding and compassion: the alchemy of turning lead (fear/anger/hate) to gold (love/karuna).

I understand it intellectually, but am not advanced enough spiritually to automatically react compassionately to negatives in others or in myself. My first instinct is still to react defensively, pushing away the person (or part of myself) that I find unlikeable, and I'll work on that.

Thanks for the reminder! I had forgotten a lot of this.


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Response to silverweb (Reply #27)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 05:14 PM

28. Wow. You really describe it well.

Thanks for getting back and letting met know what you came up with.
I learned it mostly from this guy who is sort of my teacher in a sense,
and I'm one of his editors. He's deep Jungian.

You may want to check him out .. his names is Paul Levy:
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #28)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:56 PM

29. Thanks!

I have to start work in a few minutes, but have bookmarked the site to check out.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:30 AM

3. Sometimes the recent quotes get jumbled in my head ...

"I believe there is about 78 to 81 members of Congress that have actually never worked a day in their life. They've never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the people in this country are facing."

Or maybe the number is low.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 05:57 AM

18. The number IS low.

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Response to SammyWinstonJack (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 11:43 PM

20. Agreed.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:34 AM

4. West should have Abe Simpson as his running mate...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:47 AM

6. Commie!

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:38 AM

5. Meanwhile....

Every last Congressional and Senatorial member of the GOP is in bed with the Communist Chinese. Their fiscal policies benefit the Communist Chinese over American citizens. Their social policies are even more oppressive and freedom-killing than those of the Communist Chinese. But, it's the Democrats who are the Communists? Ain't that rich!

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 05:58 AM

19. Projection=republicans.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:32 PM

7. Monty Python's commentary

on Communist revolutions and reds under beds. Starts at 1:30.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:23 PM

10. Anyone who trots out the "communist" name calling has lost the argument.

It simply means they know their positions cannot be defended or supported.

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Response to Tennessee Gal (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:30 PM

12. They don't WANT to win.

That is why they are getting so fucking crazy. They know the majority of people are calling bullshit and they're all about to get voted out.

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Response to YellowRubberDuckie (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:34 PM

14. I hope you are right.

However, I seem to recall a poll in the last couple of days having Romney and Obama in a dead heat.

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Response to Tennessee Gal (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:41 PM

15. Ratings ploy.

And serious Propoganda.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:31 PM

13. Why is this such a bad thing, the GOP LOVES Communist China?

Their pathetic disconnect is so obvious it is painful.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:49 PM

16. No one expects the Communist revolution nt

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 11:49 PM

21. Rep. West says it like its a bad thing or something.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 11:53 PM

22. Whenever I hear the Soviet National Anthem, I think of Nicholai Volkov.

And this

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Response to sadbear (Reply #22)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:20 PM

32. What are you gonna do?

Brother!

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 12:06 AM

23. The Stalin poster here is actually an anti-Stalin parody

 

It's a riff on the famous slogan: 'Thank you, comrade Stalin, for our happy childhoods'

This one says: 'Thank you, dear Stalin, for shooting our parents'

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Response to RZM (Reply #23)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 12:37 AM

25. Thank you Expert Communist, RZM...

...the image will be removed immediately!

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:05 PM

30. Yes? You rang?............

If those guys are communists, they must be Mensheviks. Because there's NOTHING Bolshevik about them.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:18 PM

31. Ice cream, Mandrake! Children's ice cream! n/t

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