Obama: 38%, Edwards: 30%, Clinton: 29%... (Iowa 2008)

[ChisolmTrailDem]

Just sayin'.

ETA: Given other options, Iowa does not love Hillary so much.

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Was this a primary result in 2008? Or a poll?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

6. Primary result. Jon Stewart just made the point on TDS. nt

[QC]

2. But the headlines the next day were all variations on

"Obama and Clinton Head to New Hampshire!"

The narrative had been agreed to and mere facts could not be allowed to interfere with it.

[JoePhilly]

4. Edwards would have lost to McCain because his infidelity.

There was no way that was not going to be found out.

[JoePhilly]

3. 2 of those 3 won't be running in 2016.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

5. 2 of those 3 weren't running when Hillary was a given. nt

[JoePhilly]

7. Think Hillary will forget 2008?

Think she'll ignore the caucus states again?

Think she will take the talk of inevitability as a given again?

Got an Obama or an Edwards (sans the love child) ready to jump in?

The time to find an alternative to Hillary was back when much of DU was demanding a primary opponent for Obama in 2012.

[stevenleser]

12. Nah, they would rather argue here on DU instead of building the organization for a candidate that

should have started in 2012-2013. Then, when their chosen primary contender loses for lack of that national organization that needs to come into existence in, oh 15 months, they will complain that the Democratic primary system is rigged.

[JoePhilly]

13. I was saying it back in 2011.

Drop the primary Obama nonsense and gut busy on 2016, or end up whining about Hillary in 2015.

And here we are.

Hillary and her supporters are unfair, because WE won't provide alternative candidates for them.

[stevenleser]

14. I remember you did. I did too. Putting that organization in place takes a combination of time, money

and name recognition.

Barack Obama's team put that organization in place over a period of around 30 months. We're now 16 months to the first primary. And Barack Obama had momentum and tons of name recognition and small donors as a result of the 2004 Keynote speech.

I think Sanders or whoever else is going to literally be a day late and a dollar short.

[Renew Deal]

8. 2008 Iowa?

Clinton ended up much stronger in the end.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

10. Yes. nt

[still_one]

11. So? It is a caucus state, not standard primary

[zappaman]

15. You better believe it!

[JI7]

16. Hillary Ignored Iowa in 2008 , she wont make the same mistake again

[pnwmom]

17. That doesn't mean she wouldn't be popular now. Her numbers are much higher than then,

and her stint as Secretary of State strengthened her resume.