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TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:44 AM Sep 2014

Go Bernie! Sanders for President for sure! He nailed it. Ate Chuch Todd for brunch!

And Chuck Todd could not even handle him. Bernie did call out the anger on both sides and included the media in the public's displeasure. He ate Chuck Todd for Brunch!


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I am the adding the NBC video a helpful poster added below. It was not available at the time I posted the thread. I was so excited by what I heard, and the roasting of Todd, I could not wait!



enjoy! If we have his back, he'll be the next president of the U.S.A.
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Go Bernie! Sanders for President for sure! He nailed it. Ate Chuch Todd for brunch! (Original Post) TheNutcracker Sep 2014 OP
K&R for Bernie Sanders. The O N L Y one speaking for citizens who are not the 1%. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #1
He's not the only one. mimi85 Sep 2014 #95
well not many other out there PatrynXX Sep 2014 #129
I agree.... mimi85 Sep 2014 #158
I wouldn't give up if Hillary declares... elzenmahn Sep 2014 #169
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #156
alright, I'll bite - what's so funny? /nt demwing Sep 2014 #161
All the HRC supporters want all other potential candidates to clear the field. Ikonoklast Sep 2014 #181
Does any one want to give this any content? Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #2
Here's a little context TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #32
I realize you like the things Sanders is saying. Just keep this in mind wyldwolf Sep 2014 #53
Well since we are going to keep the Senate and get back the House Rex Sep 2014 #58
you have no way to be sure of that wyldwolf Sep 2014 #77
Based on my FB feed, even church-going right-wingers like his messages. No lie. silvershadow Sep 2014 #109
He reminds fundies of a Methodist preacher. RoverSuswade Sep 2014 #119
Great post! mimi85 Sep 2014 #159
Thanks. I love Bernie. RoverSuswade Sep 2014 #178
Until they realized that he's Jewish. nt Stardust Sep 2014 #163
Not surprising. Same defense of the poor as Jesus. olegramps Sep 2014 #186
I'm not surprised. I think both he and Elizabeth Warren could get through to the masses Voice for Peace Sep 2014 #123
+1 woo me with science Sep 2014 #176
Repubs and Establishment Dems in the House and Senate prevented Carter tblue37 Sep 2014 #149
Tip O'Neill was a liberal Democrat and President Carter was very much a conservative wyldwolf Sep 2014 #151
We ARE? I certainly hope so but I'm not kidding myself. calimary Sep 2014 #116
Hear, hear!! nt mimi85 Sep 2014 #160
I drive people to the voting booths by the car load. What do you do? Rex Sep 2014 #196
One thing I do, every time I'm out somewhere, in situations where I transact with someone calimary Sep 2014 #198
Sanders would have real power modeforjoe Sep 2014 #72
Yep -he wouldn't waste his mandate the way some recent president has. elehhhhna Sep 2014 #86
Motivational speaker: El Shaman Sep 2014 #105
It's up to us to make him more than that. cui bono Sep 2014 #111
If by some chance Bernie got elected POTUS, it would be up to us to apply the pressure to the Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #137
Well we can do that right here...and contact everyone's office who's involved. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #144
I hope you are better at it than I am (wouldn't take much), I can't even get people here at DU Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #153
I've seen and applaud your posts dreamnightwind Sep 2014 #166
DU is a Partisan forum. In the RW however, things are very different in terms of what people talk sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #171
If you read former Treasury Secretary Geithner's book, Obama did get his program through, and jtuck004 Sep 2014 #113
Therefore, lets vote for Chris Krispy. He knows how to get things done with democrats. Hoppy Sep 2014 #120
OK, I'll play LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #125
She would get her agenda through Doctor_J Sep 2014 #155
Cool prophecy... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #207
Keep this in mind tazkcmo Sep 2014 #128
So what's your point? We should elect a Republican or Republican posing as a Dem? Scuba Sep 2014 #130
Good point. sulphurdunn Sep 2014 #150
Well, jeez. If liberals would just stop pushing left policies, then conservatives would-- eridani Sep 2014 #152
Another of our conservative dems had the same talking point LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #189
He'd clearly explain to the American public what is really going on. Zorra Sep 2014 #184
If Sanders primaries HRC... ReRe Sep 2014 #204
Thank you Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #66
My take on ilt was a little different. olegramps Sep 2014 #188
Yes, that's another way of putting it Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #190
I really don't view Senator Sanders as calculating politician. olegramps Sep 2014 #191
This was Bernie's first appearance on Meet the Press. House of Roberts Sep 2014 #3
I saw his name on the program info underpants Sep 2014 #36
Chuck Todd says it in the intro. House of Roberts Sep 2014 #42
NBC is not about democracy or helping out candidates like Bernie. merrily Sep 2014 #55
Just watched the clip on YouTube. Bernie did great! Old Crow Sep 2014 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Sep 2014 #41
Bernie clip valerief Sep 2014 #5
Speaking truth to power CanonRay Sep 2014 #10
Thank you, valerief Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2014 #11
Wow! Wow! Wow! JDPriestly Sep 2014 #12
Thanks for posting the video!! PearliePoo2 Sep 2014 #14
Todd didn't know what hit him Robbins Sep 2014 #16
Chucky: But what about Hillary/Democrats? ybbor Sep 2014 #18
Thank you for sharing that clip of Bernie. But, let me reiterate..... Enthusiast Sep 2014 #22
All together now! (Chorus:) Fuck Chuck lastlib Sep 2014 #51
Didn't quite know where to put this ... sunnystarr Sep 2014 #131
Where do we SIGN UP to Assist.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #24
GREAT question. merrily Sep 2014 #31
Thank you! LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #33
Most welcome. merrily Sep 2014 #37
And here.... TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #38
Thanks for posting cllp, was not available and too excited to wait! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #27
BWAHAAHAA! "Let Hillary speak for herself." Brilliant! nt antigop Sep 2014 #34
Comes close to "I take him at his word." merrily Sep 2014 #56
Finally hearing truth on MTP Duppers Sep 2014 #39
Thank you for posting this clip Faux pas Sep 2014 #59
Stay safe on the trail in Iowa. PADemD Sep 2014 #64
You caught that, too? I found it rather creepy. nt antigop Sep 2014 #73
Bernie needs to declare ASAP and get SS protection. PADemD Sep 2014 #80
A veiled threat coming from the PNACocracy's Sunday show? valerief Sep 2014 #78
That comment jumped out at me! southerncrone Sep 2014 #165
Thank You for posting. Good stuff! /nt think Sep 2014 #65
his first ever appearance on meet the press....says volumes spanone Sep 2014 #69
He is absolutely right when he says 'more and more people are becoming Independents'. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #71
Notice how he stays on point and addresses the issues no matter how much Todd baits him. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #107
yep grasswire Sep 2014 #115
Love this: CrispyQ Sep 2014 #110
Great clip! markpkessinger Sep 2014 #112
The most infuriating fact here was in fuck turd's introduction. calimary Sep 2014 #117
Yep. There's the problem right there. nt Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #134
WOO!HOO! GO BERNIE!!!!! magical thyme Sep 2014 #126
Schmuck Toad gets the smackdown BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #127
LOL...Upchuck Todd tried to make it about Obama and Hillary Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #133
+1000. I watched out of curiosity. First time I've heard the term Oligarchy on Tee Vee. adirondacker Sep 2014 #6
Todd tried his best to get Sanders to take a shot at Hillary and Democrats rurallib Sep 2014 #7
You bet and Todd will be gone before the cycle really gets underway. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #40
That should be a template for dealing with the ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #44
well stated! rurallib Sep 2014 #124
I don't care who his guests are, I will never watch Chucky Toad again. He is the worst Pisces Sep 2014 #8
MTP should go back to its original format, instead merrily Sep 2014 #15
I only watched to hear what the only person speaking for middle class had to say. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #43
I agree, Bernie did not fall for Todd's inept actions tiredtoo Sep 2014 #9
I like Bernie and would vote for him. But if he runs as an independent he could totodeinhere Sep 2014 #13
That is why we need Instant Runoff Voting SHRED Sep 2014 #20
After watching that video, I'd vote for him in a NYC second. merrily Sep 2014 #21
I believe he said he would do it as a democrat TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #45
He did not say either way. Said he had not made up his mind which to do. merrily Sep 2014 #60
Thank God for Bernie. He is the one person who is not afraid to defend our progressive views. I hope jwirr Sep 2014 #17
YES. merrily Sep 2014 #29
I will too, in the primary. I want to see a debate between him and other Democrats, it's often freshwest Sep 2014 #61
Wouldn't it be nice to vote FOR something for a change, woo me with science Sep 2014 #74
We NEED instant runoff voting! Bernie should challenge Democrats to do that! cascadiance Sep 2014 #81
+1 The system is rigged in so many ways. woo me with science Sep 2014 #108
I voted FOR Obama mimi85 Sep 2014 #102
If you are tired of kicking him, then you should stop. woo me with science Sep 2014 #106
I agree 100%. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #147
+10000. closeupready Sep 2014 #187
wow, Todd is just as much a douchebag as the last douchebag, MTP or TMZ? whereisjustice Sep 2014 #19
Too funny lark Sep 2014 #67
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #23
From your keyboard to voter's ears. merrily Sep 2014 #28
You got that right!!!!!! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #47
But.... merrily Sep 2014 #50
I am worried about his safety. woo me with science Sep 2014 #75
I agree. Outspoken liberal politicians do not fare well in this nation. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #83
If PBO has remained safe so far, thank goodness, I mimi85 Sep 2014 #100
I suspect the bankers would give PBO a lot of protection. woo me with science Sep 2014 #101
Yes. I think PBO would be in danger from a nut case like a Ted Nugent wannabe. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #138
+1 woo me with science Sep 2014 #140
Let me guess. "Poor people schmoore people. Hey what about Hillary Clinton?...." nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2014 #25
Valerief posted the clip. It's only a few minutes long. Great viewing! merrily Sep 2014 #62
Eating Todd for brunch seems like a recipe for indigestion. merrily Sep 2014 #26
He then spit him out....like this TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #49
+1000000 woo me with science Sep 2014 #76
Link to his Repub-promoting facebook First-Read page weaselbit Sep 2014 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #35
Facebook? mimi85 Sep 2014 #103
Bernie was great! redwitch Sep 2014 #46
N/T AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #48
Keep kicking! Sanders has earned it! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #52
note how Todd was doing everything in his power to try to divide the Democrats, and Bernie was did still_one Sep 2014 #54
Bernie chewed him up and spit him out. He'll beat the rebubs on the stage as well. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #57
That's the key. The Corporate/GOP MSM will *NOT* let a Bernie Sanders win. CakeGrrl Sep 2014 #94
Go Bernie. CentralMass Sep 2014 #145
hell, if he played up his pro-Israeli cred, maybe he could run in the Republican primary zazen Sep 2014 #63
Reminds me of an old nursery rhyme DFW Sep 2014 #68
Or...Chuck shills for oil spills on the seashore. valerief Sep 2014 #99
DUzy nom! nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #104
What I loved most about it woo me with science Sep 2014 #70
+1 valerief Sep 2014 #79
The best part was the Koch Ads ZX86 Sep 2014 #82
I caught that as well. Koch; Using BILLIONS of dollars to destroy the livelyhoods of Millions of adirondacker Sep 2014 #96
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2014 #84
Sanders interview IS huge, now listen for the crickets TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #87
Was there a side of Russert hash browns? Blue Owl Sep 2014 #85
Kept it short so not a full meal, but Bernie did turn in into a full brunch! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #88
Thanks for posting. tosh Sep 2014 #89
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #90
To those who say they are very very concerned about how difficult it would be for Bernie to get some djean111 Sep 2014 #91
+1000 nt antigop Sep 2014 #97
+100000000000 woo me with science Sep 2014 #177
Bernie was great. Do not overlook Toad and the "Stay Safe" line in closing. gordianot Sep 2014 #92
Bernie!!! AzDar Sep 2014 #93
Kick to the 100 club! Sanders earned it!!!! woooo hoooo! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #98
OMG I love Bernie MissDeeds Sep 2014 #114
Thank you everyone! Sanders now a member of the over 100 club!! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #118
Great Job Bernie!! supercats Sep 2014 #121
Go Bernie! democrank Sep 2014 #122
If we want him we damn better well have his back. glinda Sep 2014 #132
He And Warren Will Be Hard To Marginalize colsohlibgal Sep 2014 #135
Is Chuck Todd actually a journalist? I just can't figure out how he got that gig... mackerel Sep 2014 #136
He's not which is WHY he got the gig. stillwaiting Sep 2014 #142
NBC sure took a wrong turn somewhere and just kept turning. mackerel Sep 2014 #143
Go Bernie Jake2413 Sep 2014 #139
Time to tweet it everywhere.... TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #141
Don't forget to like him on his Facebook page and organizational page! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #146
Have his back! Can we make him a member of the 200 rec club? Let's do it! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #148
Done n/t NikolaC Sep 2014 #185
Well done my friend, well done...n/t saidsimplesimon Sep 2014 #154
This is just the beginning! Keep K&R TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #157
At least the Repugs won't be able to say that he spends too much time playing golf. TexasTowelie Sep 2014 #162
171 recs Not shabby merrily Sep 2014 #164
Worst. Brunch. Ever. Warren DeMontague Sep 2014 #167
If he runs, he has my vote. blackspade Sep 2014 #168
"Okay, but I'm being told to focus on you versus Hiliary, so can we beat that to death?" C Moon Sep 2014 #170
Democratic Party is working, working for the 1% whereisjustice Sep 2014 #172
He was great. 2016 is going to be a great election year. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #173
Sanders/Warren 2016! knr nt Veganhealedme Sep 2014 #174
Or Warren/Sanders. I'll take either combination in a heartbeat. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2014 #193
+1 either combo would be as good as it gets! nt Veganhealedme Sep 2014 #195
I am surprised Chuck Tool had Bernie on at all mdbl Sep 2014 #175
I think he and his handlers just really underestimated Bernie. n/t djean111 Sep 2014 #179
K&R Bernie would mop the floor with any chickpea brain the GOP ran against him. nt raouldukelives Sep 2014 #180
Wow, what a response so far SmittynMo Sep 2014 #182
If he runs, he's got my vote. nt Zorra Sep 2014 #183
I could be totally wrong. olegramps Sep 2014 #192
I disagree wholeheartedly. The principles he stands for, socialistic or whatever else you want to totodeinhere Sep 2014 #194
Well, only time will tell. First he has to get the nomination. olegramps Sep 2014 #197
No chance in hell anyone (Democrat or Republican) wins 40 states in 2016 Reter Sep 2014 #199
Jebby is not electable. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #200
He's more electable than his idiot brother Reter Sep 2014 #203
And, THANK YOU FOR MAKING SANDERS A MEMEBER OF THE OVER 200 REC CLUB! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #201
Ha! K&R and make him a 300 rec member! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #202
I wonder if Rachael will follow up with an interveiw? Or Chris Hayes? TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #205
cool, more Bernie Sanders threads with this video! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #206
Keep it going!!!!!!!!!!!!! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #208
Thank you everyone!!! Go Bernie! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #209
Can we get Chris Hayes to interview him on evening prime time? TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #210
Looks like the 'Bernie can't win' thread is the the general opinion around here. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #211
Why argue and allow this thread to slow up? TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #212
Go Bernie! TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #213
Indeed! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #214
I wonder if he'll be on any of the Sunday shows coming up?????? TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #215
After all I have heard all week, Sanders is still the best I've heard and will hear. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #216
Still here for Bernie until I see him again on the MSM TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #217
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
1. K&R for Bernie Sanders. The O N L Y one speaking for citizens who are not the 1%.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:47 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)

This is what Bernie needs from the people now. Kick this interview into the nooze cycle all week!

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
95. He's not the only one.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:38 PM
Sep 2014

Elizabeth Warren is another one. Neither one will get the nomination though. Warren maybe someday. Good ole Bernie's time is past. I love Bernie - such a great guy. I didn't watch MTP. Just not a TV watcher, especially on Sunday mornings. Football will be on soon enough. Ugh.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
158. I agree....
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:23 PM
Sep 2014

I don't want her to run, but I don't want to vote for someone else and siphon votes away. My main concern is having Bill back in the White House. He won't be able to resist telling her what he thinks she should do. I voted for Bill and don't regret it. But his time is past. I know this is a VERY long shot, but I like Martin O'Malley. Right now, I'm more concerned with the mid-terms.

I seriously hope we don't have another fiasco with the GOP, although it was rather humorous in retrospect. Maybe i DO want a fiasco! Remember Paul's fake eyebrow almost falling off? And Perry's now infamous "oops?" The debates were absolutely surreal. And some of those idiots are talking about running again! Along with Rand, Jindal, Cruz (god, he annoys the shit out of me) and the other class of clowns. They really don't have a viable candidate that I can see.

I'm not sure we do either.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
169. I wouldn't give up if Hillary declares...
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:58 AM
Sep 2014

...because the more viable Sanders is as a candidate, the more it pulls Hillary towards his side of the fence - not to mention the entirety of the Democratic Party.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
181. All the HRC supporters want all other potential candidates to clear the field.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:28 AM
Sep 2014

if HRC goes up against anyone else not owned by Goldman-Scahs, she'll get eaten alive during the debates.

Best way to ensure that never happening is to declare HRC "inevitable", or scare them off with her money.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
2. Does any one want to give this any content?
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 10:59 AM
Sep 2014

I know if I'm patient, there will be video later in the day. And I will watch it.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
32. Here's a little context
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:58 AM
Sep 2014

He spoke on the middle class and that Kock Brothers and Citizens United WILL allow them to get in and dismantle Soc. Sec. and Medicare.

Another great point he made was that citizens of BOTH parties were not just fed up with the leadership, the citizens were EQUALLY fed up with the MEDIA SHENANIGANS! Ha! Chuck Todd was 'deer in headlights' for sure.

Sanders kept control of the interview much to the frustration of Todd. MSNBC will probably switch him out before the prez cycle begins.....Sanders nailed it! Use the link below to listen or yourself once the show is uploaded.

Chuck kept goading him, "are you against Hillary"? Is she not for these issues? Sanders kept repeating, "I'll let Hillary speak for herself, while I speak for the middle class"

ha ha ha......he was just so great...unlike ANYTHING we have ever had since they shot the Kennedys. I am not confusing this either with 'charisma' ala Bill Clinton.
I look at what they did to policy, all of them, like NAFTA and ending the Glass Steagall Act.

Enough of the B.S. Enough of the center DLC. Enough of pleasing corporations. Bernie nailed it.

wyldwolf

(43,865 posts)
53. I realize you like the things Sanders is saying. Just keep this in mind
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:23 PM
Sep 2014

... if Sanders ran and won, how would he get his agenda through congress? Would Republicans suddenly become socialists? Would red state Dems?

At this point he's a motivational speaker with no real way to back up his words.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
58. Well since we are going to keep the Senate and get back the House
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:26 PM
Sep 2014

I think he will have an easier time than Obama did. Despite two terms of Republican obstruction, the POTUS has done a lot of stuff even without their help.

Why would they (GOP) change just because Sanders becomes POTUS...your argument doesn't really make much sense.

wyldwolf

(43,865 posts)
77. you have no way to be sure of that
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:58 PM
Sep 2014

We lost the house and senate in '94 and didn't get them back for 12 years.

I think he will have an easier time than Obama did.


You think a bona fide socialist will have an easier time with Republican obstruction than Obama did? You know, there were those on DU in 2008 who swore up and down Obama would have an easier time than Bill Clinton.

Why would they (GOP) change just because Sanders becomes POTUS...your argument doesn't really make much sense.

I've not made that argument.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
109. Based on my FB feed, even church-going right-wingers like his messages. No lie.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:16 PM
Sep 2014

Not that that translates into votes. Just an observation.

RoverSuswade

(641 posts)
119. He reminds fundies of a Methodist preacher.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 03:58 PM
Sep 2014

If Bernie carried his bible around he would win the red states for sure.

RoverSuswade

(641 posts)
178. Thanks. I love Bernie.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 07:24 AM
Sep 2014

He doesn't have the baggage Hillary does. My avatar was frozen for 9 years, but all of a sudden he started dancing again on DU.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
123. I'm not surprised. I think both he and Elizabeth Warren could get through to the masses
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 04:58 PM
Sep 2014

on the right AND the left, the 99 percent.

tblue37

(64,979 posts)
149. Repubs and Establishment Dems in the House and Senate prevented Carter
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 08:47 PM
Sep 2014

from doing most of what he tried to get done.

wyldwolf

(43,865 posts)
151. Tip O'Neill was a liberal Democrat and President Carter was very much a conservative
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:11 PM
Sep 2014

Democrats had substantial majorities in both houses of Congress so Republicans weren't players much at all unless they struck deals with Democrats. The House Majority during Carter's term were quite liberal with speaker of the house Tip O'Neill.

Anyone who believes 'established Dems' obstructed Carter from passing liberal legislation has it backwards. President Carter was not the same man he is today.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
116. We ARE? I certainly hope so but I'm not kidding myself.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 03:25 PM
Sep 2014

DO NOT make that mistake. DO NOT assume we've got this. I hope like hell you're correct but I don't see any guarantees presenting themselves out there. At least not yet. The only way we can be sure to keep the Senate is if EVERYBODY on our team gets off his or her apathetic or disgruntled or complacent ass and go vote. including all the "they're all the SAAAAAAAAAAME" voters get off their idiot asses and go vote.

GO VOTE.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
196. I drive people to the voting booths by the car load. What do you do?
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:50 PM
Sep 2014

I just LOVE this defeatist attitude certain people have around here...no wait, I find it sad.

calimary

(80,693 posts)
198. One thing I do, every time I'm out somewhere, in situations where I transact with someone
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 10:03 PM
Sep 2014

in public - bank teller or grocery store clerk or whoever - my parting words for them after "thank you" are "and don't forget to vote!"

I've even concluded phone orders that way.

You can also write "VOTE!" on every dollar bill as you circulate the currency. We used to do that with "?W" (Question dubya).

Everyone should do at least a little something. Just one thing. If everybody even just here on DU did a mere one thing to get the vote out, that would be hundreds of thousands of "a mere one thing." Might make a difference. Especially when you recall that it was a difference of a mere 500 votes that mattered at the end of Selection 2000. Maybe FIVE HUNDRED VOTES in one little corner of Florida might have kept us out of Iraq - from the get-go.

modeforjoe

(15 posts)
72. Sanders would have real power
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:52 PM
Sep 2014

While technically you are correct re Sanders' initial impotence to legislate, I hope that he would do what Obama has not often done: take the hard stand, go to the people, and edu-ma-cate them about the issues, about what is at stake. So Sanders' program would suffer defeats...but in time his message might gradually begin to resonate and we can begin to turn this country around. It makes no sense to me to elect another neocon or corporatist Dem; they really are not on our side, though they give very few progressive ideas insincere lip service. I would take a risk on any candidate who pledged to go down fighting and go down educating.

El Shaman

(583 posts)
105. Motivational speaker:
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:05 PM
Sep 2014

kinda like Theodoro (El Cubanito) Cruz, huh?? Don't forget, el viejo, his daddy!!

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
111. It's up to us to make him more than that.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:36 PM
Sep 2014

What if for us to do is elect someone who will fight for us. Really. Not just someone who says they will or someone who will crap on us less than the other person from the other party. And then it's up to us to make the govt do what is good for us.

But remember, with Sanders we would have him always on fire, fighting for us. If he got elected and had the momentum and mandate that Obama had he wouldn't squander it away playing nice with the GOP and giving them what they ask for before they even started negotiating. The GOP isn't as powerful as some thing they are, they are being enabled by the current admin and Dem leaders.

Then we have to not be complacent once we get them elected. Look at how everyone was relieved when Obama got elected and sat back and trusted that he was doing the right thing. Well he didn't do the right thing on so many issues.

As a whole Americans are disengaged in the very process that determines their quality of life.

Most politicians are snake oil salespersons. They say what you want to hear then change their tune once they are elected. It's happened with every recent president. Sanders is the real deal. He's not going to let himself be pushed around by the GOP - or the Dems - he will fight to do the people's work. He's not going to go to the table with a compromised position to start with so that the outcome is more favorable to the GOP than to the people, he's going to go to the table asking for what we want and need.

Who do you really think is going to be able to go in there and accomplish what we need them to? Who is not just words until they are in office? Sanders has the track record to prove he's not just blowing smoke, he means what he says. That puts him so far out in front of the pack it's actually a sad commentary on politics in the USA.

Dustlawyer

(10,493 posts)
137. If by some chance Bernie got elected POTUS, it would be up to us to apply the pressure to the
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 07:19 PM
Sep 2014

other Politicians to make things happen. The President can use the Bully Pulpit to get us behind what he is doing, Obama did fail us on many issues and did the bidding of the 1%. The biggest tell was not going after the law breakers who caused the needless war in Iraq and the ones who crashed the economy. WTF! "Look forward, not back" is a rational response? He created, or at least openly continued to prove that there is a class of Americans above the law. I am sorry, but if a Democrat had lied us into war and allowed torture I would be screaming to prosecute them just as loudly. Where are the Republicans? For that matter, where are the politicians (other than a very small number) who should have been demanding prosecution for these blatant crimes?
Our country is corrupt to the very core and it all stems from campaign contributions. How idiotic can we be to allow legalized bribery of our politicians and then wonder why we cannot pass very common sense legislation that over 90% of Americans agree to (background checks on assault weapons). Wake up and quit bitching about the symptoms caused by this and help attack the real problem head on. It is a shame that Bernie is about the only politician to come out for publicly funded elections.

Dustlawyer

(10,493 posts)
153. I hope you are better at it than I am (wouldn't take much), I can't even get people here at DU
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:44 PM
Sep 2014

on board with a few exceptions. I believe that if half of the people that come to DU would get involved in spreading the word and setting up protests for the midterms we could get things going. I thought it would be sweet to protest outside TV stations with the sole goal of outlawing campaign contributions and install Publicly Funded Federal, State, and local Elections (PFE).
We could have signs showing just how much money each candidate received and ask the question, "What do you have to do for all that money?"

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
166. I've seen and applaud your posts
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:46 AM
Sep 2014

It is the correct fight, one we should be waging with everything we have, including protests as you mention. Thank you. Perhaps you can use DU to organize some efforts along these lines?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
171. DU is a Partisan forum. In the RW however, things are very different in terms of what people talk
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:54 AM
Sep 2014

about. Someone like Bernie would get support across the political spectrum from what I am hearing from people in RL, both Dems and Repubs.

He is an Independent and should remain so. The biggest voting bloc in the country now IS Independent as more and more voters are becoming Independents. I believe the last poll I saw stated that only 29% are Repubs and only 32 are Dems with the numbers dropping all the time.

He seems to be aware of that as he stated that a majority of voters don't vote, see the 2010 election where Independents stayed home after coming out in large numbers in 2008. Those are thinking people who won't vote for anyone who has demonstrated they are not working for them.

OWS was a result of the increasing disgust with both parties by the people. And it was scary for those in control to see how swiftly the idea of non-party affiliation spread across the country, making it necessary to quash them.

Maybe we are going through one of those historical political shifts and someone like Bernie is there to take advantage of it. I hope so. I could cheerfully support this many who has demonstrated his intelligence, independence and ability to do what is best for those who elected him.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
113. If you read former Treasury Secretary Geithner's book, Obama did get his program through, and
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:38 PM
Sep 2014

is still working it, supporting the wealthy on the backs of working people. Good book, "Stress Test".

Here is Jon Stewart tossing the weasel's words back in his face, and an audience of voters laughing in it. His face, that is.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/qd03iv/exclusive---timothy-geithner-extended-interview-pt--1

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
125. OK, I'll play
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:20 PM
Sep 2014

... if Hillary ran and won, how would she get her agenda through congress? Would Republicans suddenly become democrats? Would red state Dems?

tazkcmo

(7,286 posts)
128. Keep this in mind
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:39 PM
Sep 2014

Republicans will fight a Democratic president no matter who it is. Also, never let your enemy dictate who your leadership is. Why would you let them influence who leads you? You way of thought GIVES the Republican party partial control of your strategy.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
130. So what's your point? We should elect a Republican or Republican posing as a Dem?
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:08 PM
Sep 2014

We might as well have a real fighter for the 99% in the White House, even if Congress gots fully to the R's.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
150. Good point.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:09 PM
Sep 2014

However, congress is less popular than the flu, and people are getting very sick of it....congress that is.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
152. Well, jeez. If liberals would just stop pushing left policies, then conservatives would--
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 09:40 PM
Sep 2014

--surely stop trying to push the country even farther to the right. Are you series!?!?!?

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
189. Another of our conservative dems had the same talking point
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 11:40 AM
Sep 2014

You see, it is *progressives*, asking for progressive policies, that force the Democrats to move to the right and offer up warmed over Republican policies.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
184. He'd clearly explain to the American public what is really going on.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:58 AM
Sep 2014

And what is really going on is exactly what the Third way and their Republican kin don't want the people to know.

He'd use the bully pulpit of the Presidency to arm the people with real information, and the people will keep Congress in line by voting Republicans and Third Way Party candidates out of office in droves.

Just like FDR, the President that the Third Way and Republicans love to hate, did.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
204. If Sanders primaries HRC...
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 11:51 PM
Sep 2014

... I can almost guarantee you that both sides of the Capital will turn blue, and many of those red state govs will be gone too. This country is pissed, both on the left and the right. Don't count Bernie out.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
66. Thank you
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:44 PM
Sep 2014

I've also see the video posted here. I didn't think it would be up this soon.

I agree with you that Senator Sanders is speaking to somebody other than the 1%. I also agree that Bill Clinton wasn't one of our truly great presidents, and neither is Obama. However, they are the best two presidents we've had since the end of the Vietnam War. My expectations of Mrs. Clinton as president are rather low.

However, I do not agree with you that Senator Sanders had the Toad for lunch. For one thing, the Toad was smart enough not to put himself on the menu today. He asked questions, and let Senator answer them. Senator Sanders was also smart enough to say what he wanted to say, which wasn't anything about Mrs. Clinton. Returning to the Toad, at least he didn't make an ass of himself today by telling Senator Sanders that he didn't say something right after he said it.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
188. My take on ilt was a little different.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 10:50 AM
Sep 2014

Chuck the Toad tried to pit Sanders against Obama as well as Hilary Clinton. It didn't work. He replied that Obama has been obstructed by the Republicans. His only criticism was that he should have been more forceful in damning their obstructionism. In regard to Clinton he said let her speak for herself. The Toad came armed with anti-Democratic talking points and ran into a person that is far more intelligent than that half-assed twerp. He quickly saw through his intent and simply turned the tables on him.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
190. Yes, that's another way of putting it
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 12:16 PM
Sep 2014

Senator Sanders downplayed his differences with the President without denying he had them. He did what any good politician would do. He got his message out.

The Toad probably heard from some unhappy campers at NBC about his absurd performance the week before in his interview of the President. He had only ten minutes and didn't spend it resetting traps that Senator Sanders clearly knew how to evade.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
191. I really don't view Senator Sanders as calculating politician.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:19 PM
Sep 2014

I welcome your comments. This is what I admire about him. He has never, to my knowledge, wavered from his socialistic economic views and his dedication to the working class. There have been several times that I have seen in which he could have compromised to make his position more attractable to Republicans and right leaning Independents.

I have come to regard the vast majority Democrats to be little more than middle of the road opportunists who only show up at the labor unions to collect a check. Obama is one hell of a lot better than any to days Ayn Rand Republican. But he isn't FDR, that's for damn sure. I love the response that FDR had for the wealthy when he said they viewed him as a traitor to his privileged class and he welcomed their hatred. This is my major criticism in regard to Obama. I have wondered if his bi-racial heritage has a lot to do with his determination not to offend anyone. I hope no one interprets my "wondering" as in any way as being racist. I believe that we all go along to get along to a certain extent. Sanders seems to be a very special cat.

House of Roberts

(5,119 posts)
3. This was Bernie's first appearance on Meet the Press.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:00 AM
Sep 2014

Considering how long he's been in Congress, that alone tells you why the program loses in the ratings. If you want to appeal to the majority, have their champion on your show once in a while.

underpants

(182,271 posts)
36. I saw his name on the program info
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:02 PM
Sep 2014

I really was looking this morning to see how many shows McCain was on
(0 it turned out) and saw Bernie's name. Not doubting you but if this was his first time on MTP well that tells you something by itself.

House of Roberts

(5,119 posts)
42. Chuck Todd says it in the intro.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:10 PM
Sep 2014

Other shows have had Bernie on recently because he is chairman of the Senate Veteran's Affairs committee, during the VA hospital scandal. Not MtP though.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
55. NBC is not about democracy or helping out candidates like Bernie.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:23 PM
Sep 2014

I think they'd rather lose MTP entirely than have Bernie in the Oval Office. Hell, he's the longest serving Indie ever in Congress. That alone made him newsworthy. So did his filibuster. Still, they did not have him on. That tells me they are more interested in the oligarchy than in viewers, even for MTP.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
4. Just watched the clip on YouTube. Bernie did great!
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:07 AM
Sep 2014

And Chuck Todd... ugh. Bernie delivered some absolutely profound truth bombs in the course of the interview, such as his comments on the Koch Bros agenda. Rather than taking even a fraction of a moment to acknowledge what Bernie said, Todd stepped on the last syllables as Bernie was talking to change the subject... what a jackass.

Response to Old Crow (Reply #4)

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
11. Thank you, valerief
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:21 AM
Sep 2014

That was just outstanding - some of the fastest 5 -1/2 minutes of my life! GO, BERNIE!

K&R

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Wow! Wow! Wow!
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:27 AM
Sep 2014

Go, Bernie.

Chuck Todd didn't know what hit him!

That was fantastic.

100% proof truth. That's Bernie Sanders.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
14. Thanks for posting the video!!
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:34 AM
Sep 2014

Standing applause from me Sen. Sanders!
I love his passion, his message and most of all, his "telling it like it is" FACTS.




Robbins

(5,066 posts)
16. Todd didn't know what hit him
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:36 AM
Sep 2014

He just wanted him to be able to bash Dems and he totally turned it around and took total charge there.

He was able to list what he is for.

Let's just say Todd won't have him on anytime soon since he won't go by the right wing playbook on meet the press.

ybbor

(1,552 posts)
18. Chucky: But what about Hillary/Democrats?
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:40 AM
Sep 2014

Bernie: I'm not concerned about them/her, I'm speaking to those who are angry with the status quo.

Go Bernie!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
22. Thank you for sharing that clip of Bernie. But, let me reiterate.....
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:44 AM
Sep 2014
fuck Chuck Todd.

What a condescending little weasel.

lastlib

(22,978 posts)
51. All together now! (Chorus:) Fuck Chuck
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:21 PM
Sep 2014
Fuck Chuck
Fuck Chuck
Fuck Chuck
Fuck Chuck
Fuck Chuck
Fuck Chuck


. . . . . . .

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
131. Didn't quite know where to put this ...
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:30 PM
Sep 2014

Yes Bernie was great. And immediately afterwards Todd and his crew minimized and marginalized Bernie - in essence laughing him off. Reminded me of what they did to Kucinich. It was disgusting but I know it from the past that it works.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
24. Where do we SIGN UP to Assist....
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:47 AM
Sep 2014

Senator Bernie Sanders Presidential Campaign? Whether he runs as a Independent or Democrat, he's the RIGHT MAN for THIS TIME to be President of the United States. Here. here Bernie 2016!!!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
56. Comes close to "I take him at his word."
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:25 PM
Sep 2014

Senator Obama says he is not a Muslim. I take him at his word.

IIRC, that was Hillary during the 2008 primary. She could have given many answers when asked about that. That is the one she chose to give.

Faux pas

(14,580 posts)
59. Thank you for posting this clip
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:27 PM
Sep 2014

saves me from having to listen to Phuck Wodd any more than I have to.

RUN BERNIE RUN

valerief

(53,235 posts)
78. A veiled threat coming from the PNACocracy's Sunday show?
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:00 PM
Sep 2014

Maybe code to tell ammosexuals open season? Heaven forbid! Toady would never do that.

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
165. That comment jumped out at me!
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:16 AM
Sep 2014

Was it a warning, or some type of veiled threat?

Cluck Clod is a piss ant.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
71. He is absolutely right when he says 'more and more people are becoming Independents'.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:51 PM
Sep 2014

Polls show that this is the biggest voting bloc in the country right now.

Next time Chuck invites him, hopefully he learned that Bernie won't fall for baiting, he is there to speak for the people, not for Hillary or the Dem Party which Chuck tried so hard, and failed, to force him to do.

CrispyQ

(36,222 posts)
110. Love this:
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:25 PM
Sep 2014
"...among democrats, moderates or conservatives, there is a profound anger..."

Todd's masters want to divide us. They are terrified we might coalesce from our profound anger.

Go Bernie!

markpkessinger

(8,381 posts)
112. Great clip!
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:38 PM
Sep 2014

Some have expressed reservations about Sanders' age, but as this interview so clearly demonstrates, at 75 he is sharper and quicker on his feet than a lot of folks half his age!

calimary

(80,693 posts)
117. The most infuriating fact here was in fuck turd's introduction.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 03:33 PM
Sep 2014

"This is Bernie Sanders' FIRST appearance on 'Meet the Press.'"

WELL, THERE'S YER PROBLEM. RIGHT THERE!!!!!!

How many times have Tweedledee and Tweedledum been on there (mccain and his little dog lindsey graham)? How many times has bill kristol and the many many neoCONS been on there? How many time has cheney been on there?

And this is the FIRST TIME, in all these years - these DECADES - that Bernie Sanders has been on?

I'm sorry, I'm about to boil over!!!!



BumRushDaShow

(127,270 posts)
127. Schmuck Toad gets the smackdown
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:35 PM
Sep 2014


This was Bernie's first and will probably be his last time on there after that. And note that this "first time" appearance wasn't even part of any panel, but was some standalone election-related piece.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
6. +1000. I watched out of curiosity. First time I've heard the term Oligarchy on Tee Vee.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:14 AM
Sep 2014

I also appreciated the way he addressed both Hillary and The President.

rurallib

(62,342 posts)
7. Todd tried his best to get Sanders to take a shot at Hillary and Democrats
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:16 AM
Sep 2014

But Sanders stood firm. Very well done.

Bet the ratings dropped like a rock when the segment was over.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
44. That should be a template for dealing with the ...
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:10 PM
Sep 2014

media/internutz "must present Progressives vs. Hillary (and/or Democrats) as a wedge" narrative ... Talk about what you see as what the people need/want and whack the republicans; there is no need to talk about what other Democrats are, or are not, doing.

Pisces

(5,592 posts)
8. I don't care who his guests are, I will never watch Chucky Toad again. He is the worst
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:18 AM
Sep 2014

and the ratings will be worse than Gregory's. I would not want to help out his ratings in any way.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. MTP should go back to its original format, instead
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:36 AM
Sep 2014

of trying to be like every other talking head show.

Oh, and be honest.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
43. I only watched to hear what the only person speaking for middle class had to say.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:10 PM
Sep 2014

Then turned it off.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
9. I agree, Bernie did not fall for Todd's inept actions
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:18 AM
Sep 2014

I blogged my opinion of the interview directly after watching it. Used to like Todd until he came out with his it is not our responsibility to call out the lies and so on.
He is just another mouthpiece for the powers that be. Will not watch the show again unless Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren or Zephyr Teachout is on.

totodeinhere

(13,034 posts)
13. I like Bernie and would vote for him. But if he runs as an independent he could
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:31 AM
Sep 2014

siphon off enough Democrats to give the election to the Republicans. If he runs he must run as a Democrat, not an independent.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
21. After watching that video, I'd vote for him in a NYC second.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:44 AM
Sep 2014

At the very, very least, he is going to force some people to at least campaign to the left.

Whether anyone else will govern to the left is another issue.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
45. I believe he said he would do it as a democrat
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:13 PM
Sep 2014

He knows there is no room for third parties. Just being a long time independent will please voters on BOTH sides.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
17. Thank God for Bernie. He is the one person who is not afraid to defend our progressive views. I hope
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:37 AM
Sep 2014

he runs against Hillary. I want to vote for him even if he cannot win. I want to know in my heart that I did the right thing.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
61. I will too, in the primary. I want to see a debate between him and other Democrats, it's often
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:30 PM
Sep 2014
the best opportunity to inform the voters of the real issues.

It clears up myths and slogans and gives voice to those who get lost in the shuffle. There are too many to be ignored, if we get out and vote.

Bernie also speaks of the chief danger that people won't vote in November. Those who will be hurt the most seem oblivious to the GOP agenda. The GOP has announced their agenda, the Koch agenda.

The parties aren't the same even though it's popular to say so, since media repeats that and people want to go with the media picked winner - the GOP.

Bernie is caucusing with the Democrats for a reason and doesn't let the GOP off the hook. Many who are not now Democrats will heed his call and get out and vote and make the changes.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
81. We NEED instant runoff voting! Bernie should challenge Democrats to do that!
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:06 PM
Sep 2014

You can tell voters are being herded by the 1%ers to so-called "open primary" (top two but first known as "jungle primary" in Louisiana) that has already been unfortunately put in place in California and Washington, and I'm trying to help on many fronts fighting here in Oregon this election.

People WANT to feel represented and not to feel like they have just a choice of the "lesser of two evils". That is what is getting us in to these other crappy voting reforms that seep through with 1%er blessing and money. We need to make sure it is done right if it is done! I hope a challenger like Bernie or Elizabeth Warren can lead at some point in this happening.

If we had instant runoff voting in place in 2000, there's no doubt in my mind we would have had president Gore for 8 years instead of the bringer of bad times George Bush! And Ralph Nader wouldn't be demonized today like he has been so much in the past here.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
102. I voted FOR Obama
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:58 PM
Sep 2014

and am getting a bit tired of kicking the President. He really has done a lot of great things which I'm sure history will reflect.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
106. If you are tired of kicking him, then you should stop.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:07 PM
Sep 2014

I will be working with others to try to prevent Wall Street and corporate Democrats from shoving another yes-man (or woman) for Wall Street predation and the surveillance state down our throats.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
19. wow, Todd is just as much a douchebag as the last douchebag, MTP or TMZ?
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:40 AM
Sep 2014

What a zero. All the massive problems facing the nation and Todd can't get out of tiger beat mode. Jesus the press corp leads a sheltered and privileged life.

lark

(22,996 posts)
67. Too funny
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:47 PM
Sep 2014

Chuckie kept trying to make it about Hillary and Bernie just wouldn't go there.

Run, Bernie, run - as a Democrat! You've got my vote!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. From your keyboard to voter's ears.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:52 AM
Sep 2014

I don't think USians have heard things like this for a long time. It's going to be like an oasis in the desert.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
50. But....
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:18 PM
Sep 2014

how do you really feel?

I'm with you on his run! I posted an OP that link and added the Facebook link that you provided, so thanks. I also linked to this thread and valerief's post with the video.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
83. I agree. Outspoken liberal politicians do not fare well in this nation.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:08 PM
Sep 2014

The status quo establishment will grow wary once they see the surge in support for Bernie.

I guess they don't have a UFO story this time. I'm sure they will fabricate something.

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
100. If PBO has remained safe so far, thank goodness, I
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:55 PM
Sep 2014

don't think Bernie has anything to worry about, except illness. He just turned 73 this month, no one is going to chance giving the nomination to a 75 year old by election time. What a great man! Damn, I hope Hillary doesn't get it, but we'll see.

In the meantime, we need to stop doing so much conjecturing about 2016 and get busy to GOTV. The mid-terms are less than two months away! We need to get on it - NOW!

And, yep, with lil Luke joining Todd, someone is going to go or the show just might get dumped. I'll have to look up the ratings. We make fun of Luke, and many times, deservedly so....I think he'll be ok when he grows up. Hey, who got Todd's front row seat at the press conferences?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
138. Yes. I think PBO would be in danger from a nut case like a Ted Nugent wannabe.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 07:25 PM
Sep 2014

You know, since they believe PBO is a dangerous black, non-American, socialist Muslin.

Bernie would be in danger from the Wall Street thieves and MIC war profiteers.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. Eating Todd for brunch seems like a recipe for indigestion.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:50 AM
Sep 2014

I would not wish that on Bernie.

Meanwhile, how great is that clip?



Toad kept trying to put words in Bernie's mouth and Bernie kept refusing to let Toad do that.

Hell if Bernie doesn't become President, they should at least give him that show.

The ratings would quadruple.

weaselbit

(18 posts)
30. Link to his Repub-promoting facebook First-Read page
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:57 AM
Sep 2014

There was a link to Chuck Toad's "First Read", found on the MTP transcript page from the deceptively edited President interview last week. Link is gone now. But here it is!

https://www.facebook.com/firstread

LOOK AT IT! Nothing has been posted there for over a year. It reads like a Mitt Romney promo page. Nothing but news propping up Romney and Chris Christie. This is a great look into how partisan Chucky is. They'll probably take it down soon. Too revealing.

Response to weaselbit (Reply #30)

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
103. Facebook?
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:03 PM
Sep 2014

People go on there mainly to show others what a wonderful, perfect life they have. Todd wasn't even on MTP when that page was made, so even though I'm not a Todd OR FB fan, I don't think the page means anything.

redwitch

(14,933 posts)
46. Bernie was great!
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:15 PM
Sep 2014

He refused to be sidetracked by Mr. Todd, stuck to his message. I would be so proud to cast my vote for Bernie!

still_one

(91,937 posts)
54. note how Todd was doing everything in his power to try to divide the Democrats, and Bernie was did
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:23 PM
Sep 2014

not fall in that trap.

Bernie would be a terrific candidate, the problem is the media would spend the whole time not concerning themselves with what Bernie is saying, but with the name "socialist", and inflections of "communism", and though it would be an outright lie, the media would freely exploit it as they did with the "swift boat pukes". Remember, it was bad enough that the swift boat pukes had ads, but the worst thing is the wonder MSM made those ads NEWS, which effectively gave those ads even more exposure, and didn't cost a thing.

Unfortunately, if Bernie ran as a Democrat, and won the nomination, they would do the same thing, and even worse.

I hate to say it, but the elimination of the fairness doctrine, equal time doctrine, and deregulation and mega mergers in the media would be a huge, if not impossible obstacle to overcome.

Bernie would make a truly great president, but the demographic as it exists today has moved far more "joe mccarthy", and right wing since Reagan.

How would Bernie win a red state, or even a purple one in the bible belt. It would be tough, because he would need to get his message out, and I cannot see the media letting that happen, without distortion and lies. Look what they did to Howard Dean. They twisted his enthusiasm in the Iowa primary to paint him as "unstable", and then gave him very little time to respond, but had not problem having his critics respond.

The greatest risk to our Democracy is the lack of a free press, and ironically by the way the media is constructed today, that is effectively what has happened. 90% of the media is right wing. Every outlet cares only for ratings, and uses fox as their emulation

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
94. That's the key. The Corporate/GOP MSM will *NOT* let a Bernie Sanders win.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:37 PM
Sep 2014

And the GOP is not going to give up their media monopoly without an ugly, bloody fight. Democrats are screwed.

I continue to be surprised every time someone starts a sentence about the MSM and a Democrat with "Why didn't they cover", or "When will they", or "I wish they'd have talked about".

The MSM will NOT do anything to help Democrats, for all the reasons you stated.

If they have Dems on their cable shows, it's to create the illusion of "balance". And it's usually either to denigrate the sitting President outright (the reason Tavis Smiley and Cornel West get ANY airtime whatsoever), and play divide and conquer. It sounds like Sanders evaded that trap.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
63. hell, if he played up his pro-Israeli cred, maybe he could run in the Republican primary
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:38 PM
Sep 2014

Honestly, I think 1/3 of Republicans need someone to explain to them that a populist fighting for economic justice will do more to promote what they call "traditional family values" than a Mitt Romney or a Libertarian. I think 1/3 of them are "reachable," as well as many lower-info on the fence independents.

Seriously, the golden 50s-60s (while also a result of unprecedented cheap oil and American imperialism) also had labor regs in place that enabled Dad to work and Mom to stay at home and supervise the kids, volunteer, build/maintain community, etc. The patriarchal set up the RW keeps advocating for all of us is now impossible among most classes unless there are living wages for a primary breadwinner. THAT's THE ARGUMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE. Many men erroneously associate the Democratic party with emasculation, even though corporatist policies have done more to erode their traditional economic power than any feminist movement. I don't agree with traditional masculinist norms, but if we can begin to disrupt that structured metaphorical gendering (a la Lakoff) of R-D equals Man-Woman, we can made a lot of headway for the future.

We know (here at DU) that that breadwinner can be a woman (and that both partners can be female, or that there's only one parent, or no children, or whatever), but the whole thing could be framed as a return to the best values of the 1930's-50's. Throw in some feminist homemakers to connect withe the homeschooling, root cellar, canning, gardening Christian Moms and you'll begin to start a grassroots upheaval in the Republican party.

DFW

(54,047 posts)
68. Reminds me of an old nursery rhyme
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:48 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:00 AM - Edit history (1)

How much crud would a Toddchuck chuck
if a Toddchuck could chuck crud?
As much crud as a Toodchuck could
If a Toddchuck would chuck crud.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
70. What I loved most about it
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:50 PM
Sep 2014

was his absolute refusal to allow that little bootlicker to frame the conversation and divert to the same old, tired, partisan garbage.

He was focused on the People, The 99 percent, which is what this country desperately needs.

Go, Bernie...and I would be hiring a food tester about now.



adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
96. I caught that as well. Koch; Using BILLIONS of dollars to destroy the livelyhoods of Millions of
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:42 PM
Sep 2014

Americans by "creating" a paltry 60 thousand jobs.

Simple math 100 Billion divided by 60 thousand = 1666666.666666666666666666666666...MARK OF THE BEAST!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
91. To those who say they are very very concerned about how difficult it would be for Bernie to get some
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:28 PM
Sep 2014

of his policies through Congress - I am very very concerned about how easily Hillary could get some of HER policies through Congress.
If the TPP has not been jammed down our gullets already, I think one of her priorities would be to push it through. Same for Keystone.

It struck me that, as an Independent, Bernie is more of a Democrat than an awful lot of Democrats.

gordianot

(15,226 posts)
92. Bernie was great. Do not overlook Toad and the "Stay Safe" line in closing.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:29 PM
Sep 2014

As Robert Kennedy and Jerry Litton follower that line stands out to me. I cannot imagine the Toad using that line on a Republican Candidate.

Bernie stay off of small planes.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
132. If we want him we damn better well have his back.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:31 PM
Sep 2014

That means he has to have a majorities in House and Senate.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
142. He's not which is WHY he got the gig.
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 08:00 PM
Sep 2014

He's a propagandist that has zero desire to correct untruths that are spoken on his show. He has publicly stated this.

He knows his job is to divide, distract, and allow misinformation and lies to flow freely to the public. Again, this is why he got the job.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
141. Time to tweet it everywhere....
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 07:29 PM
Sep 2014

I'd like to see this on the nooze cycles during the week!
Thanks everyone!!!!!

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
148. Have his back! Can we make him a member of the 200 rec club? Let's do it!
Sun Sep 14, 2014, 08:38 PM
Sep 2014

You can't help but hit the rec button after you watch the short clip of what a Sanders presidency would look like!

It's almost too good to even dream about....

TexasTowelie

(111,287 posts)
162. At least the Repugs won't be able to say that he spends too much time playing golf.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 12:30 AM
Sep 2014

Yes, I'll vote for Bernie in the primaries and the general election if he decides to run.

C Moon

(12,188 posts)
170. "Okay, but I'm being told to focus on you versus Hiliary, so can we beat that to death?"
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 02:35 AM
Sep 2014

"Okay, Hillary didn't work, how about Obama?"
"Okay, Obama didn't work, how about the Democratic party as a whole?"

Todd is an obvious puppet—he belongs on Fox!
Rock on Bernie!!! You saw what that jack ass was doing.
You made Todd look like a FOOOOOOOL!

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
173. He was great. 2016 is going to be a great election year.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:50 AM
Sep 2014

Go, Bernie.

I'm beginning to think that a Sanders/Warren ticket would be possible after all. The message is so clear and so appealing. The usual politicians dare not take the stances that Warren and Sanders take because their donors would abandon them. And if their donors abandoned them, they would have to answer for their voting records. That's something most of them could not do and remain electable.

mdbl

(4,972 posts)
175. I am surprised Chuck Tool had Bernie on at all
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:49 AM
Sep 2014

Even though Tool tried to pigeon hole Sanders as some kind of fringe politician, which is exactly what the Koch bros will try to do.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
182. Wow, what a response so far
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 09:43 AM
Sep 2014

Bernie is the real thing. He has the expertise in politics. He tells it like it is. He is extremely supportive of the middle class, because he knows if the middle class fails/shrinks, this country we know today, will no longer exist. He is also right about the anger that is going on in politics and spot on with Citizens United. CU is sure to be the collapse of society. It must be stopped.

And the GOP is all in on CU. How ANYONE can support the GOP at this stage is insanity.

If we do not elect someone to support the middle class, we're all in for a very very rough ride ahead.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
192. I could be totally wrong.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:58 PM
Sep 2014

I believe that as much as I admire Senator Sanders that he could not get the nomination and certainly could not win a national election for presidency. He is totally committed to socialistic principles and will not compromise his unwavering support of the working class. I think that the bias of the MSM would paint him as a wild eyed communist. I can just imagine what the right wing fanatics would do when you consider what the Swift Boat liars did to Kerry.

His greatest asset in running for the nomination would be to force the Democrats to realign themselves with the working class and their struggle against the oligarchs who, with the support of ignoramus fundamentalists, are threating to destroy what remains of the middle class. It will take someone like Sanders to bring the stupid working class Republicans to realize they have allowed their racial hatred to commit to eventual economic suicide.

I associate with a lot of working class Republicans and even when their job has been outsourced or disappeared in the endless mergers they are unable to grasp the fact that their support for the Republican oligarchs has reduced them to a desperate state of poverty and working for minimal wages. They are so damn brainwashed that the actually blame their situation on Obama. I have very little problem grasping what took place in Germany bringing Hitler to power when I see my fellow Americans swallowing the propaganda spread by the likes of FOX and hundreds of radio outlets.

totodeinhere

(13,034 posts)
194. I disagree wholeheartedly. The principles he stands for, socialistic or whatever else you want to
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 03:18 PM
Sep 2014

call them, are the very reason why he would win. The American people are hungering for a candidate of principle who is not bought and paid for. IMO he would take 40 states.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
197. Well, only time will tell. First he has to get the nomination.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 06:33 PM
Sep 2014

Its not that I don't admire him, always have, its just my take on the reality of the situation. We will have nearly two years to debate it. Best of regards. I can only wish that you are right in the end.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
199. No chance in hell anyone (Democrat or Republican) wins 40 states in 2016
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 10:07 PM
Sep 2014

Zero chance Bernie could win against Bush III. Sucks but it would not happen.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
200. Jebby is not electable.
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 10:47 PM
Sep 2014

He closed drug courts, then allowed HIS daughter to use one out of jurisdiction.

His wifey? Got mad when he was "caught in the act" and moved out the the mansion, back to S. FLA. Then to get back at him, she went to Paris and shopped. When she returned, she went through customs and LIED. She actually had 20K worth of shit she lied about and tried to bring back into the country! Some say, she did it to embarrass Jebby, while governor. Regardless, a first lady she will never be. She is also the daughter of a Mexican mafia boss.

And, Jebby, the so called 'educational governor' is the one that signed vouchers into law, and began to suck out the tax dollars from public edu in Florida. Then he put in this 'testing', while he brother owned the software to correct it! Now it's common core. Jebby is transending his bullshit across the united states...and HE CANNOT WIN. Fla is still the mess he left it.
And, after VACATING, SO THE RECOUNT WOULD BE A FIASCO, DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS FORGOTTEN.

Look, Jebby is learning right now, not enough time has passed. And if you think a Bush/Clinton race again, will excite already pissed off voters, especially in Fla, you are mistaken.

Why do people parrot this "cannot win" thing, when it's Bernie or Warren who is the clear alternative? Liz says she's not running. Bernie says he's thinking he will!

Go Bernie.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
203. He's more electable than his idiot brother
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 11:13 PM
Sep 2014

Fact is nearly anyone is electable against Sanders. Cruz would even be a tossup. But we'll never know because he'll never come close to getting the nomination. It'll be Clinton vs. Bush or someone else. Doubt Paul can get the nomination.

Reminds me of someone on the old DU around 2004 who said Sharpton would beat Bush. Some people are just not realists.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
205. I wonder if Rachael will follow up with an interveiw? Or Chris Hayes?
Tue Sep 16, 2014, 12:00 PM
Sep 2014

That would be great....it's obvious no one else is creating such excitement, and real hope.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
212. Why argue and allow this thread to slow up?
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 02:36 PM
Sep 2014

The argument is lost on that DU thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025548755

It's time to get organized....for President Sanders!

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
215. I wonder if he'll be on any of the Sunday shows coming up??????
Fri Sep 19, 2014, 01:46 PM
Sep 2014

Though I don't expect to see him on MTP!

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