Al Franken said "I'm a DLC Democrat".

[LoZoccolo]

[gateley]

1. In what regard, Charlie?

[LoZoccolo]

5. He just volunteered that piece of information.

[FarLeftFist]

62. For Christs sakes just give them the link here:

http://www.booktv.org/Watch/3856/BEA+2003+Al+Franken+Molly+Ivins+Bill+OReilly+Panel+Discussion.aspx

Its at 1:24:20

[joshcryer]

57. Here is the link:

http://cs.pn/j5duxF

1h24m in.

[Edweird]

2. Then he said “Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?”

So, of course, I replied:
“You’ve got to be kidding me. I’ve been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. It’s just common sense.”
Then we ate ice cream.
The end.

[LoZoccolo]

4. THEN WHO WAS PHONE?

[Edweird]

6. I WAS PHONE

?1318992465

[tclambert]

82. Why does your phone look so surprised?

[Autumn]

7. Then we ate ice cream!!!!!!

Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?” It’s just common sense.” it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like. I My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, “You’ve got to be kidding me. I’ve been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can.



You Edweird are my hero. I think I love you.




The end.

[NYC_SKP]

14. Aaaand....

[Autumn]

17. I am so stealing that. Awesome.

I bow to your awesomenesssss

[The Wielding Truth]

135. Tell me please. I don't get it. I'm not so quick.

[NYC_SKP]

137. It's an "Internet Meme". This one originated in a 4chan discussion board. Link:

I didn't know the origin either until I looked it up.

In a nutshell, some poor typing/English skills generated the goofy string of works and it somehow became history--

Know your meme:

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/what-is-this-i-dont-even

[The Wielding Truth]

162. Okay, then. It's not supposed to make sense and that's the point. Do I get it now?

[tblue]

147. Slide the spinach on the soft moat.

I so have a time inside how we are that. Dig?

[marasinghe]

8. applause.

was it the 'Stuart Smalley' Xmas special for teenage kids of congressional repuke families?

[redqueen]

93. ...

And now my question about recs has been answered.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

150. That's easy for you to say.

[Angry Dragon]

3. 87.23%

[NorthCarolina]

9. Link? nt

[LoZoccolo]

10. I can't remember it because it was like 2003 or 2004 when I saw it.

[Autumn]

12. Maybe he changed his mind,

and now he thinks the DLC sucks. I thought the DLC was good in 2003, but thank Dog for DU because it taught me the DLC sucks.

[dawg]

16. You're welcome.

But it's spelled d-a-w-g!

[Autumn]

18. Gwad I am so sorry

I must confess I have had a weeeee dram to drink.

[NorthCarolina]

13. I did a search for it and the only thing I found was

essentially posts on DU from around 2004 by a DU'er named Minstrel Boy that made the claim in the same manner that you did here. No link, just the claim that he had said it. Minstrel Boy apparently earned himself a Tombstone on the old DU at some point in time. Not sure what name he posts under now on DU3, but if he's around perhaps he could enlighten us as to the source of this claim.

[Shining Jack]

81. I was Minstrel Boy...

And I clearly remember reading it in a fortune cookie.

Proof:

[madinmaryland]

11. Conference Call in 15 Minutes! SERIESLY!!

[unkachuck]

15. "I'm not a DLC Democrat"

....you are a true Democrat Al, and a decent human being!

[peacetalksforall]

19. Why isn't there a link? The DLC was disbanded and replaced (see below). I hope Franken

didn't say that.

The DLC was/is in their new skin something that Dem people don't want. They are Republicans. There is a grand difference between DINO leaders and Democrat people. The DLC is associated with everything that has gone wrong with our leaders.

Like the invasion of Iraq, like torture, liek rendition, lie the Patriot Act, like Homeland Security, like the transformation of FEMA from a department that was respected to a secret and private prison facilitator, like the Coast Guard protection of BP. like moving jobs and factories out of the country, like bail-outs to ultra rich investors/bankers - like their milquetoast , be nice, lie down answers to corporate tv freaks like Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck? Become a DLC supporter. Do you like the money these leaders put in their pocket and the absolutely zero interest they have in stopping vote theft? Like the trade treaties suck out of our lives.

That is the DLC, now known as the Clinton Foundation.

The Democrat-people have each other and a few good leaders. Extract DLC members and Blue Dogs and we have little.

[LoZoccolo]

20. He said it when I saw him on Book TV with Molly Ivins and Bill O'Reilly.

[NorthCarolina]

22. So, you must have been "LincolnMcGrath" on the old DU.

I saw your same post there from 2005.

LincolnMcGrath (1000+ posts) Wed Oct-12-05 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #58
63. He also said it at the debate with O'Lielly and Molly Ivens.

Bill the Shill kept calling him kept using the L-word over and over and Al said "I'm a DLC Democrat, not a Liberal".

profile link: http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=122315

[LoZoccolo]

24. I argued with him on "I'VE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFUCKIN GREENS ON THESE MOTHERFUCKIN BALLOTS!".

[CreekDog]

27. 20 posts in and you say this? and no link, and no context...no seriousness in any of your post

should anybody believe what you've written here? absolutely not.

should anybody feel like your aim isn't to inform with your post but to tease people here? yes, absolutely.

why do you tease and taunt people on DU with your posts?

you think it's helping?

[LoZoccolo]

28. Everything you need to retrieve it with Google is in reply #25, along with where to cue it.

[CreekDog]

34. No thank you. It's a lie until you post a link.

and the behavior needed to get one out of you, while you are clearly looking at the video and the link while posting this thread --it's manipulation to the Nth degree.

you're playing with people here.

some people post to make people laugh.

some to inform.

some to learn.

some to argue and win.

some to teach.

some to generate useful discussion.

you are posting to manipulate people into hanging on your every post until you reveal what you were asked from post #1.

it's nothing to be proud of.

[LoZoccolo]

35. That sounds like "Schroedinger's cat" although I know almost nothing about that.

[EOTE]

86. You know even less about this than you know about Schroedinger's cat.

Wouldn't have thought it's possible, but there it is. You ever get tired of trolling?

[Bluenorthwest]

89. It is why you are the Alert King and crying hurt feelings all the time

The pretentious shite does not mitigate your actions. You poke the bear for your own amusement then whine when you get growled at. Dish it out, then whine when it is dished in return. Now alert on me! Quick! Then post Part 93 of Why I Am So Wronged.

[LoZoccolo]

107. In which reply have I personally attacked someone or advocated for third parties?

[alp227]

128. LINK

http://www.booktv.org/Program/3856/BEA+2003+Al+Franken+Molly+Ivins+Bill+OReilly+Panel+Discussion.aspx

[NorthCarolina]

21. As far as I can tell from searching

Franken never did say that. It is apparently some "joke" that only a few are privy to.

[LoZoccolo]

25. It's on "BEA 2003: Al Franken, Molly Ivins, & Bill O'Reilly Panel Discussion" around 1:24:17.

[CreekDog]

29. if you have this link and you know the exact moment in it where that was said and you don't post it

and have not posted it even 25 replies into this thread...

it means you are TAUNTING PEOPLE HERE.

you are teasing that poster.

you don't enjoy winning political arguments or having discussions, you enjoy starting arguments and teasing people when they ask you to explain yourself.

[LoZoccolo]

33. It's hard to do links in the subject line.

[CreekDog]

37. nevermind.

i made my point earlier.

[LoZoccolo]

38. I do not smoke anymore.

[CreekDog]

122. Would you reconsider?

[stockholmer]

152. puff puff pass

[GirlinContempt]

73. .....

[Capn Sunshine]

148. here's the link.

"I'm a DLC Democrat. But I uh,..and you know, Paul Welstone was someone I loved, but I disagreed with him a lot"

http://www.booktv.org/Watch/3856/BEA+2003+Al+Franken+Molly+Ivins+Bill+OReilly+Panel+Discussion.aspx

[CreekDog]

31. Look, the message you're responding to is the OP making fun of you

I'm sorry, but that's what's going on.

The OP will post partial information, perhaps true, perhaps not, and then given terse, half or one word answers to string you along and get others to reply and kick the thread.

What could have been answered in a few posts, or even in an OP with 2 more sentences and a link is instead left still unexplained, unlinked, unverified and very inflammatory 25+ posts in.

The OP is teasing you, the OP is teasing all of us.

If the topic interests you, the last place I would try to find the answer is from the OP. The OP is clearly enjoying stringing you and everybody else along hoping a few words, a cryptic reference will keep you coming back for more.

I'm not playing this and I'm not going to be silent while the OP mocks those of you who came here to have a rational discussion about an inflammatory post.

[LoZoccolo]

32. The jury has probably said to "leave it alone".

[peacetalksforall]

46. Your blue D in a circle makes me think Democrats in your firing range? Did you intend that?

[LoZoccolo]

48. It's an official Democratic Party logo.

[peacetalksforall]

96. Name the organization that made this official or provide the source..

[former9thward]

125. Why don't you go to the official Democratic Party website?

It is right there. http://my.democrats.org/page/content/joindnc?source=OM_LB_google_dnc-search_dem-party-exp&gclid=CMDGnJyPlq0CFWg0QgodkzzalQ

[peacetalksforall]

157. Why would I go there when I didn't know it existed there?

[former9thward]

158. You were questioning the poster about his claim it was a official logo.

All you would have to do is go to the website and see if it was there.

[LoZoccolo]

161. It's at the Democratic web site at "http://democrats.org".

[peacetalksforall]

160. In message 32 there is no url. If you are suggesting I click on the icon

that I associate with this poster, that is crazy.

I won't post any more on this thread - I think this is a creepy.

If someone in the Dem Party chose this logo - it is also creepy and mostly suggestive, plus the wrong shade of blue.

[Vanje]

129. YEs

He disrupts.
He disrupts poorly.

[Vanje]

116. Its difficult to find a link

for that which has been pulled out of an ass somewhere sometime about a decade ago.

GREAT OP! (snort!)

[dreamnightwind]

23. No link, nothing more than that?

This OP is a poster child for the need for Unrec, which I generally don't believe in.

[CreekDog]

36. that's what the OP has done, posted a quote with no link, no context, no nothing

and even after 25 posts still is being evasive.

nobody should play this game because playing it is allowing someone to toy with you, someone who clearly enjoys doing so.

[deutsey]

84. Kind of like fundies like to do with the Bible. n/t

[byronius]

154. dreamnightwind! What's up?

I listened to way too many Al Franken shows to think there's something amiss with that dude. He revered Paul Wellstone, spoke at his funeral, and yes, Al is kind of a middle-of-the-road liberal, progressive on some things, moderate on others.

But jeez, obviously Al Franken is one of the good guys. Sheesh. This whole post is silly.

[City Lights]

26. I met him back in the early 80s while he was soaking in the hot tub at the Lincolnwood Hyatt.

Are you familiar with the Lincolnwood Hyatt? I'm pretty sure it was demolished earlier this year, but it was purple. I met him when I was there teaching a class.

[LoZoccolo]

30. I passed by there while riding around with my aunt and uncle.

[mmonk]

39. Is there some point to this?

Or is this some sort of stream of consciousness moment?

[Electric Monk]

40. Hippie punching. nt

[LoZoccolo]

41. Al Franken is a hippie-puncher amongst hippie-punchers.

[LoZoccolo]

42. A lot of people say that the DLC is responsible for ruining the Democratic Party.

[mmonk]

43. I trend in that direction but find it a strange way of discussing it

if that was the point. I assume since you have said so, that is your point. I'm not sure what reactions one is supposed to have to the statement. But thanks for the clarification.

[CreekDog]

44. strange way of discussing it? manipulation perhaps?

though the manipulation is done with obviously minimal effort.

[LoZoccolo]

47. There is actually a reason behind the one-liner posts.

[CreekDog]

49. yes and i explained to everybody what that reason is

obviously it was going to take 250 posts for you to explain it...










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[LoZoccolo]

52. You did not explain the reason, but you demonstrated it.

[rhett o rick]

141. I am guessing that the poster you are responding to supported the DLC.

I am guessing the purpose of this OP was to stir up those that like Al but dont like the DLC.

It appears that he has succeeded.

[tblue]

142. I'm one of the 'lot.'

Oy.

[CreekDog]

79. stream of consciencelessness

[mmonk]

83. LOL

[grantcart]

45. Doubtful but if you have the link and don't put in the OP your just being an ass.

I have heard him say that he was a DFL Democrat which is the official name of the party in MN.

[Electric Monk]

50. +1

[LoZoccolo]

51. You'll find where to see it in reply #25.

[CreekDog]

53. that's not a link

thanks again for not answering the very simple question asked of you dozens of times before this.

[LoZoccolo]

54. When someone says something on the radio, do you call them up and ask them for the link?

[GirlinContempt]

72. Cause clearly this is the same thing!

[redqueen]

88. lol

How the hell does pointless crap like this get rec'd?

[Bluenorthwest]

92. When someone says somethig on the radio, do they say one line then fall silent

and refuse to engage with callers? Do radio talkers generally skirt direct questions again and again and reply with rude nonsense and remain on the radio?
I note that you are not on the radio.

[LoZoccolo]

105. I've engaged with people in this thread.

[CreekDog]

117. quite transparently too

[flvegan]

58. Scoring one for Oasis is not an easy thing. n/t

[grantcart]

56. No that's an obscure reference for a possible

google search.


you want to have an intelligent conversation then comfort to a normal adult exchange of information.

That appears to be beyond your maturity level.

[LoZoccolo]

61. I did a Google search when people were asking me to find it.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

55. Franken did say this (but that doesn't excuse the drawn-out tease by the OP)

I checked post 25 that's been yammered about in several places in the thread, and I searched for, found, and queued up the portion of the video where Franken does say "I'm a DLC Democrat", going on to explain that he even has Republican friends.

LoZoccolo: this is where you deserve to be called names for being so difficult on purpose. Since I can't do that and continue posting in this thread, I'll just say that human nature dictates you're not being at all effective if you're trying to get people to see your point of view. And the way you did this thread just wasn't very cool.

http://www.booktv.org/Program/3856/BEA+2003+Al+Franken+Molly+Ivins+Bill+OReilly+Panel+Discussion.aspx

[joshcryer]

59. Fixed link at top of the thread (I used a URL shortener).

Here it is again: http://cs.pn/j5duxF

1h24m in.

[LoZoccolo]

60. I think that at least three out of six people think it should stay.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

64. fascinating. What does that have to do with anything, by the way?

I think you're skimming through replies too quickly. You may want to read my comment again, in light of your non sequitur.

[LoZoccolo]

65. So it looks like they excused the "drawn-out tease".

[DisgustipatedinCA]

68. yes, if there was a vote, then they "excused" it....love your metric for success

That's a far cry from actually endorsing your post. But even that is beside the point. Just because you stopped short of being taken into custody doesn't mean you shouldn't have done this in a less antagonistic way.

Now, your role is to latch onto my use of the phrase "taken into custody", and take exception to its literal accuracy. Have a nice night.

[HangOnKids]

80. Lots of Falcon Air In The OP

Sheesh!

[Bluenorthwest]

91. Looks like they said 'allow him enough rope' to me....

nt

[Electric Monk]

66. None of those jurors gave an explanation. The 3 who voted the other way explained clearly why. nt

[LoZoccolo]

67. That sounds like self-evidence versus sophistry and excuses.

[Electric Monk]

69. Maybe to you, Tiger Blood

[LoZoccolo]

70. This thread is on the front page.

[Hissyspit]

77. "Most Discussed"

Lots of responses. Quantity does not equal quality.

[CreekDog]

78. To the OP it does

and the OP clearly craves precisely this kind of thread.

[Electric Monk]

136. Winning!

[CreekDog]

98. yes, you must be quite happy that you've spent so little effort making so many angry

with little effort, you've put a little phrase sure to upset many DUers into most of their heads, and done so without context, without sourcing and without any *stated* purpose.

there is clearly some reason for doing this.

and by the way, since you don't know how to post links, perhaps you should learn how if you would like to be taken seriously here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/100255306#post33

[GirlinContempt]

71. rofls

[Bluenorthwest]

90. Here is a clip of Al Franken on 'What what being a progressive means to him'

The man can actually speak fo himself.

[byronius]

155. That brought tears to my eyes. I love Al Franken. What a human.

[center rising]

63. So am I. good for Al.

There are some of us left. It isn't a crime you know!!

[Electric Monk]

74. How do you feel about the OP (original poster) of this thread representing you?

That is what they're doing... trying to speak for you and yours. Are you cool with that?

[CreekDog]

95. you're DLC? part of a group that no longer exists?

fascinating.

[Douglas Carpenter]

75. Al Franken: "All my life I have been a McGovern Democrat:

He said that at the time of the 2004 Democratic Convention when he was interviewing the former Senator on Air America.

[JHB]

85. And let's note that he said that AFTER the "DLC Democrat" comment...

...which was in 2003.

[LadyHawkAZ]

76. Clark Gable said "Franken, my dear, I don't give a damn"

or something like that.

[deutsey]

87. Al Franken also said he was an "international Communist revolutionary" who once

called for "the violent overthrow of the United States government."

The man is a riddle wrapped inside a mystery inside an enigma.

[CreekDog]

94. The point of this thread is:

Well, let me explain first:

1) DLC no longer exists, so there aren't any "DLC" Democrats any longer, though there are many "centrists".

2) Al Franken is not a centrist.

3) Al Franken has never been known to be a DLC-type Democrat, in fact, quite the opposite, back in the mid-1990s when many DLCers were recommending compromise and co-opting of Republican policies, styles and talking points, Al was about the first to get widespread attention for calling the most famous Republican of that time a "big fat idiot".

4) Al Franken was key to liberals standing up for themselves within the political system and within the Democratic Party. Though he was not the only fighter, his tough and funny approach was one of the most successful. He muscled, joked and jabbed his way into the national conversation which the media was content only happen on Republican terms.

All that said, the OP wants you to know that Al Franken said he was "DLC". Why does he want you to know that? Does it make you feel good about Al Franken? Probably not. If it does make you feel good but you find out that Al Franken is probably the crappiest DLC-er ever, would you still be happy?

Since the DLC no longer exists, due to lack of interest and policy prescriptions only zombies could think up...what is the point of saying that Al Franken, a liberal, a fighter saying he's DLC?

It's to make you feel bad. Feel bad about Al Franken, feel bad about the DLC, feel bad about Democrats in general (for the doomed DLC experiment), etc. It's designed to also make you argue with other Democrats and Liberals and Centrists over a random comment that never mattered much when it was said and 8 years later is so irrelevant that it's negligible. Except the OP can use it to make you feel bad, make you argue and at the same time, get attention.

[Starry Messenger]

97. That's really good CreekDog.

You should post it as an OP.

I would add my #5) Purpose of the OP is to suck attention away from other threads that are more deserving of attention, knowing that people will naturally labor to counter the misunderstandings caused by his postings.

[CreekDog]

99. #5 makes sense in light of the behavior within the thread

start, then prolong an argument as long as possible, over not only a non-issue, but an 8-9 year old quote that was a red herring the moment it was said! all at the same time that our efforts could be used to support the payroll tax cut, extension of unemployment benefits, fight environmental "riders", etc.).

you're onto something.

[LoZoccolo]

103. My thread takes only seconds to understand.

[CreekDog]

114. We know you're proud of it.

because the jury didn't hide it.

were you the guy i went to school that kept telling me, "but D is a passing grade!"

[Vanje]

118. .....Like a disruption?

A disruption, done poorly?

[Capn Sunshine]

145. I thought the purpose of the thread was to point out to those who use "DLC" as a pejorative

how ridiculous that is

[LoZoccolo]

102. I like Al Franken.

[TZ]

104. Really?

Whats the point of this post then? Other than to get attention, which to me seems the obvious goal.

[LoZoccolo]

108. I provide an example of someone who liked the DLC who people like.

[CreekDog]

106. Nobody reading the thread will think so

[LoZoccolo]

109. Some people have accused me of being a DLC operative.

[CreekDog]

112. I have no trouble believing you can be a member of a group that doesn't exist

[TZ]

115. I used to know some DLC'ers

and I can say this to the OP, you sir are NO DLC'er! (with apologies to Llloyd Bentsen for that)

[TZ]

110. LOL!

Yeah, what am I thinking, water's not wet!

[fascisthunter]

131. because they are a hated minority in our party and he wants to stir the pot

[Poll_Blind]

153. +1 nt

PB

[byronius]

156. Oh, bingo there. (Buzzer)

Well done.

[Bluenorthwest]

100. Obama said ""I do not support gay marriage"

Link: http://www.equalitygiving.org/Barack-Obama-on-the-issues-Equality-Quotes-Gay-Rights

'[Marriage] connotes to so many people a religious and not just civil element, and that includes me."
Note that religions that are not prejudiced against us get no mention, although the only Church the man has attended regularly supports marriage equality! Ironic? Sure is!
This 'post a quote' thing could really be fun.

[Capn Sunshine]

144. Isn't this rather OT?

Certainly, Bluebear, this deserves it's own thread.

[MNBrewer]

101. In 2003

He's not now.

[peacetalksforall]

111. DLC Democratic Leadership Council and DFL Democratic Farmer Labor Party

DLC -

DFL: This is the official name for the Democratic Party in Minnesota

If you enter any Democrats name, including Franken, in a search engine, the person will have the tag DFL after it, unless someone didn't know about the DFL and assumed DLC.

Go to the Home Page and you will see a photo of the current Governor and others and the caption say Governor and DFL Leaders. Everything is DFL in Minnesota. Since 1944. http://dfl.org

The acronym is appended to their all the names of the leaders when identifying the party affiliation of a Democrat.

http://dfl.org/introduction

"Introduction to the DFL Party

Thank you for your interest in the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party of Minnesota! Since our Party's inception on, April 15, 1944, we have continually worked to elect strong DFL candidates to public office, act as a voice for the people of our state, and to encourage all citizens to become politically active in their communities. The Minnesota DFL supports and works to enact the ideals and principles of the Democratic Party and strives to sustain the foundations in our Party's grassroots history. We believe that every American and Minnesotan, regardless of their background or other immutable traits, has a right to stable employment with fair wages, to a proper education, to raise and provide for a family, to accessible and affordable healthcare, to live in safe communities, and to retire with dignity and security. In the course of our Party's history much has been accomplished and we at the DFL Party will continue working for a better Minnesota and nation into tomorrow and beyond."

As they say, it is one thing to make a mistake and another to be a jerk about it.

But if you come up with a credible source where he says that he belonged to the DLC in 2003 or now , I will apologize for thinking of you in a very negative way.

[LoZoccolo]

113. I cite the source of the quote in reply #25.

[LynneSin]

119. John Kerry is one too.

Joe Biden was never DLC but Tom Carper is


Actually I thought the DLC folded

[Capn Sunshine]

146. So was I

all the cool kids were. Then things evolved.

[geardaddy]

120. I miss the unrec feature.

[CreekDog]

138. i didn't

until now.

[geardaddy]

140. I miss it solely for this kind of shit.

[thesquanderer]

121. And JFK said "Ich bin ein Berliner" (n/t)

[paulk]

123. in 2003

you know - maybe he doesn't believe that anymore. It was either years ago.

I know that I spent a lot of time on this board, if not supporting, at least defending the DLC back then. I still believe they served a purpose at a particular time - however, I've come to believe they (and the newer versions, like the New Dems) no longer serve a worthwhile purpose. I feel that this particular brand of moderate Republicanism is damaging not just to the party, but to the nation as a whole.

The policies of groups like the New Dems may help win elections in certain areas, but the lack of advocating for liberal policies has contributed to a rightward drift for both the party and the country. This is bad because these policies aren't going to get us out of the mess we're in. We need liberal policies and we need liberal politicians to express them.

Listening to Al Franken recently I feel that he has arrived at that same conclusion.

[Fearless]

124. Maybe we should judge people by their actions instead.

One way or another, that seems the safer bet than an out of context statement.

[kentuck]

126. Why does this thread have so many recs ??

Is it because we have so many DLCers here?

Is this supposed to be some sort of validation of credentials?

I cannot believe Al Franken would have supported the DLC policies of Al From and Bill Clinton in the 1990's.

Would you call this DLC?

[LoZoccolo]

127. I like how you try to bring people into line with your expectations using questions.

[Vanje]

134. ?

I dont get you.

[fascisthunter]

133. Only nine recs.... proves a great point on DU

more to the left than the poster wants to admit.

[fascisthunter]

130. yeah....

lol... he's a bit more liberal in my book, but we know you want to prop up corporate ideology so go for it.

[craigmatic]

132. The MN party is called the Democratic Farmer-Labor party. I doubt Franken is DLC.

[LoZoccolo]

143. Check post #25 to find out how to see the direct quote.

[Capn Sunshine]

139. He is indeed. I remember when he convened a meeting in his NYC apt in 2004 to stop Howard Dean

back then what Howard was saying really horrified the East Coast wing of the party. His 50 state strategy was viewed as utter nonsense. At that meeting John Kerry was put forward as the anti-Dean. Will Pitt was there, as I recall.

[Robb]

159. O to have been a fly on the wall.

[DefenseLawyer]

149. Al Franken: The DLC must agree to pay me the beer and travel money I am due. n/t