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The forces that have destroyed the middle class, that have enslaved our children by robbing them of good jobs and saddling them with debt, that stand in the way of sane policies to address climate change; that have bought Congress, the Supreme Court, the White House, and democracy itself?
In comparison, ISIS is a small worry.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Which may be never.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)which isn't about to happen any time soon.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Unless you're threatening regular Americans, and then we'll bend over backward to protect you. Hell, we'll even make sure to hand out a ton of new work visas so you don't have to pay those stagnant American wages anymore!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)unless you're on Wall $treet."
FTFY.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Bernie started explaining his understanding of the looming war with ISIS, but caller after caller started pulling him back to domestic issues and it struck me that these are the concerns of the average American. Even Bernie admits that when looming war sucks all the air out of the room, domestic problems get conveniently shucked aside.
polichick
(37,152 posts)But it looks like things will have to get considerably worse first.
It's an ugly train wreck to watch!
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Rinse in blood and repeat.
ISIS is not the first former "ally" we have ended up bombing.
We have a long history by which to evaluate the behavior of the MIC. This is part of a well-established pattern of crisis, intervention, destabilization, and crisis. It is a cycle, and it is linked to the military INDUSTRY which profits from it all. We have to stop reacting to the crises that the MIC's own behavior creates.
I'm going to link again to this post by JackRiddler that I think should have hundreds of recommendations:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025355401
Add in the one by IchingCarpenter for good measure: We are at this point bombing our own guns:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025359142
The MIC's own behavior ensures the continuation of this cycle of violence. As JackRiddler's post points out, there are things they could do to show good faith in actually trying to end the violence rather than perpetuating this cycle, but their behavior, and the behavior of US politicians, does exactly the opposite.
It's a racket. It's shock doctrine. We're always reacting to a crisis we helped create, and we ignore the ones behind the scenes getting filthy rich from it all. Meanwhile, our country is hollowed out from all our money being poured into war.
And more mothers will weep over graves, more nations will be devastated for profit, and the warmongers laugh all the way to a new private island.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Lrobby99
(33 posts)Decline is just part of history.
polichick
(37,152 posts)...and the scams that have stolen our country, then stop allowing "them" to divide and conquer.
That would be a beginning.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)The vultures are a far greater threat to the general welfare of the people of the United States.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)while fleecing citizens domestically. The European colonial powers did that in the 19th and 20th centuries, as do the oil kingdoms today.
While the US is not a dictatorship, it certainly does seem that DC elites employ that strategy regardless of party, with some success. They will continue to do it - why not? It's cheap, profitable, and it works most of the time.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)how Corporate America and Washington D.C. destroyed the middle class somehow.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)The agenda still has unfinished business, such as looting the social security trust fund, and making the income tax regressive (in the form of a flat tax). Those are two just off the top of my head.
It's painful also to consider how most mainstream Democrats have colluded with Republicans to make life as an everyday American more taxing and tenuous.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Much easier to keep the plutocracy going and just ignore the populace...not like we have a third or fourth choice.
polichick
(37,152 posts)He would use his next State of the Union address to explain to the people what we're really up against.
Just lay it all out for us, don't be scared we will get mad...we are already mad. He might just do that! Not like he has to worry about being re-elected again.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)RKP5637
(67,104 posts)eventually do the US in, I fear.
Pakid
(478 posts)That say it all
RadicalGeek
(344 posts)That the real threat to America's freedom comes from within. . .
We, I fear, are the exceptions.
stage left
(2,961 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Corruption Inc
(1,568 posts)Our currency will become almost worthless and the entire world will go into another depression.
Us Amurkens don't build bridges until somebody gets run over despite how many times we're told it's going to happen.
Progressive dog
(6,900 posts)to those "problems" , I'm assuming you don't have one. Do you propose we make a list of priorities and if we can't fix them in order, we just stop?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)we elect politicians. They tell us what they think the solutions are and then we choose the one we think has the best ideas to implement those solutions.
The problem is, what they SAY and what they DO it has become obvious, are often very different things.
If someone applies for the job of finding and implementing solutions and we give them the job, THAT is who you need to be questioning, not those who trusted them and gave them that job.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)more than money.
For every person trying to address to those issues. Trying to GOTV for liberal candidates. There are 100 Wall St investors forming symbiotic relationships with the very corporations funding the efforts against achieving the goals we strive toward. Funding climate deniers, funding war, funding attacks on education and labor, funding efforts at denying minorities the vote. The deck is stacked mightily against those of us who would like to save a small slice of what this world used to be for future generations.
Some people try do to both. And bless them for at least trying to be better people. But in the end, for them, it is at best a zero sum game.