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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 11:52 AM Sep 2014

Video Of Michael Brown Shooting Scene: 'He Had His F**KING HANDS IN THE AIR!'







Two men could be seen on video reacting to the shooting of unarmed teen Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., in what CNN described on Wednesday night as exclusive footage shot by a bystander on a cellphone. "He had his fucking hands in the air!" one of the men is heard shouting in the moments after the Aug. 9 shooting of the black teen by a white police officer. CNN aired the footage during "Anderson Cooper 360" and said it was filmed by an unidentified man near the scene of the shooting. CNN also talked to the two men who were shown on the video.



The men, who didn't wish to be identified, told CNN they witnessed the shooting from about 50 yards away. The man shown in the video in a pink shirt told CNN that they heard one gun shot followed by another about 30 seconds later. He said he saw Brown staggering and putting his hands up saying "Okay, okay, okay" but that "the cop didn't say get on the ground, he just kept shooting."



The man in the green shirt told CNN he saw Brown running away from the police car with his hands up as the officer chased him. He also said the police officer shot Brown again when his back was turned, according to CNN. The network said the two men have no connection to Michael Brown or his family. CNN reported that their accounts corroborate what other witnesses have reported: that Brown had his hands in the air and his back to Officer Darren Wilson when he was shot.



http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cnn-ferguson-video-bystanders-hands-air
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Video Of Michael Brown Shooting Scene: 'He Had His F**KING HANDS IN THE AIR!' (Original Post) Segami Sep 2014 OP
30 seconds between two shots? Oktober Sep 2014 #1
Time lines from eye witnesses are notoriously wrong. It comes from the stress of the situation. Lochloosa Sep 2014 #2
Yeah, what seems like 30 seconds could be 3. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #3
All of a sudden witnesses are being questioned because there mainly black bigdarryl Sep 2014 #4
I don't think the witness in the green shirt is black. Maybe someone will believe him? Lochloosa Sep 2014 #5
I don't think the witness in red is black either... nt justiceischeap Sep 2014 #48
what are you talking about? snooper2 Sep 2014 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author heaven05 Sep 2014 #40
The latest tooeyeten Sep 2014 #50
there was one shot when Brown was still right at the police car Beaverhausen Sep 2014 #12
All the "wait and see" clowns now have to wrangle with actual white male witnesses alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #6
+1 Quayblue Sep 2014 #7
Yes. These white contractors, from out of town, really are incredulous Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #9
...and that right there is white privilege. Lucky Luciano Sep 2014 #20
Exactly. Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #25
Yup..there was a great tweet on this a few weeks back, something to the effect of alcibiades_mystery Sep 2014 #27
Good one. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #45
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #46
Perfect! tblue37 Sep 2014 #52
In the past, blacks were *legally* considered unacceptable as witnesses. tblue37 Sep 2014 #51
Nailed it, LL! Norm Guy Sep 2014 #60
and the "we don't need any evidence" geniuses should be unmoved by this evidence Enrique Sep 2014 #13
I think this video with the contractor throwing his arms in the air will be the smoking gun snooper2 Sep 2014 #24
I hope so. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #34
can anyone think of another time questionseverything Sep 2014 #8
And that an investigation takes 3 months. This video is very good evidence. jwirr Sep 2014 #16
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2014 #28
When the shooter is a cop ... surrealAmerican Sep 2014 #29
+1 treestar Sep 2014 #32
Dallas? Almost 51 years ago? n/t RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #59
So how many witnessses are there now? Six, seven? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #10
That's the wrong question, I think. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #23
found this summary on Huffington Post CatWoman Sep 2014 #30
Exactly, second hand stuff believed over eyewitnesses treestar Sep 2014 #33
The DOJ conducted over 200 interviews. CakeGrrl Sep 2014 #54
I hope that is true. I am sure there are more witnesses and hopefully they have been interviewed sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #56
I too am crossing my fingers that this leads to *something*. n/t nomorenomore08 Sep 2014 #63
Cold blooded murder malaise Sep 2014 #11
Yeah--throw the book at him. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #35
Kicking for later viewing! arcane1 Sep 2014 #14
Everyone else is arrested at the drop of the hat! They have known this for weeks, ample evidence to Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #15
This is why the cop is in the air...... dawnie51 Sep 2014 #17
We had so much hope in the '60s. Useless. Faygo Kid Sep 2014 #18
+1000 heaven05 Sep 2014 #42
I agree. NOLALady Sep 2014 #55
+1000 heaven05 Sep 2014 #58
From this point on the reasonable doubt game comes into play. gordianot Sep 2014 #19
5th Amendment. nt tblue37 Sep 2014 #53
yes sorry gordianot Sep 2014 #57
More evidence that confirms the other witnesses. Good. nt bklyncowgirl Sep 2014 #21
This is huge because they are not tainted by discussing with media or other witnesses TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #26
the reaction if those 2 guys were black or some other minority JI7 Sep 2014 #31
you must have missed those threads/posts, Hun CatWoman Sep 2014 #36
i meant we would be seeing those things on DU also JI7 Sep 2014 #37
Great comment! Cad Bane Sep 2014 #38
seriously. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #41
+1000 heaven05 Sep 2014 #44
yes, yes, and more yes. La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2014 #43
at last heaven05 Sep 2014 #39
Well that is quite damning evidence. cui bono Sep 2014 #47
This is not getting nearly the coverage it should by the media. MSM would rather focus on Ray Rice. kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #49
anyone know if FOX "News" has addressed this video and if so, how did they spin it? napkinz Sep 2014 #61
Cops, Churches and Corporate Persons Crash2Parties Sep 2014 #62
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
3. Yeah, what seems like 30 seconds could be 3.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:08 PM
Sep 2014

Time perception during stressful situations always gets wonky.

Response to snooper2 (Reply #22)

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
12. there was one shot when Brown was still right at the police car
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:10 PM
Sep 2014

the other shots followed a short time later.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
6. All the "wait and see" clowns now have to wrangle with actual white male witnesses
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:38 PM
Sep 2014

saying the same damn thing as all the others.

What a dilemma for racist shitheads.

What's really interesting is how worked up and incredulous these contractors seem to be - not knowing that they are being videotaped and generally acting without any guile or concern for future presentation: "He had his fuckin' hands in the air."

What oh what will the "wait and see" clowns have to say about this?

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
9. Yes. These white contractors, from out of town, really are incredulous
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:58 PM
Sep 2014

at what they'd just seen. They can't believe it. It's a shame that the reaction of these two white guys from out of town will be what's needed for people to accept that Michael Brown was defenseless and surrendering when Wilson gunned him down.

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
20. ...and that right there is white privilege.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:09 PM
Sep 2014

The black witnesses would need to be backed up by white witnesses to be credible.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
27. Yup..there was a great tweet on this a few weeks back, something to the effect of
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 07:14 PM
Sep 2014

"If a tree falls in the forest, and no white person is there to hear it, well, we need to wait for more information...."

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
51. In the past, blacks were *legally* considered unacceptable as witnesses.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:31 AM
Sep 2014

Now, even though their testimony is no longer legally excluded, the old assumptions remain for all too many people that a black person's testimony cannot be considered evidence.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
13. and the "we don't need any evidence" geniuses should be unmoved by this evidence
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:25 PM
Sep 2014

since they knew what happened with such certainty the day the shooting happened, they ridicule anyone who admits any ignorance or uncertainty.

If anyone claims this new evidence is important, then that suggests there was any doubt what happened, which makes them a clown.

I fall in that category: this evidence is important.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
24. I think this video with the contractor throwing his arms in the air will be the smoking gun
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:16 PM
Sep 2014

putting the POS cop away for a long time-

Imagine playing that for a jury over and over and over----

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
8. can anyone think of another time
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:55 PM
Sep 2014

there have been 6-7 eye witnesses to a murder, in broad daylight, where the shooter has not been indicted?

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
29. When the shooter is a cop ...
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 08:04 PM
Sep 2014

... it doesn't matter how many witnesses there are. Their "opinions" about what they saw count for less than the officer's story. This has happened before - that's why this incident is so important.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
32. +1
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 08:15 PM
Sep 2014

How they can not have made charges by now I can't quite figure out. They don't really think they can let this one go.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. So how many witnessses are there now? Six, seven?
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:06 PM
Sep 2014

I wonder will it matter. Cops like our elected officials, are pretty much immune from consequences to their actions.

I had hoped that Ferguson might finally be the tipping point, but predictably, as soon as the media left, we moved on.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
23. That's the wrong question, I think.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 04:14 PM
Sep 2014

The important question is "how many witnesses testified under oath early on, before details of the case were splashed all over the media", I think.

CatWoman

(79,296 posts)
30. found this summary on Huffington Post
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 08:09 PM
Sep 2014

he did a great job, IMO:

Dw Schoenthal · Top Commenter
Lets see:

Moving away - shots fired - 5 or 6 witness
Arms up - shots fire - 4 witness
Dropping to his knees - shot fired - 3 witness
Audio Recording - 10-12 shots in two groups
Video Recording - spontaneous utterances of he had his hands up etc

Fighting with Officer - Officer by others
Fighting over Weapon in car - Officer by others
Weapon discharged in car - Officer by others
Damage to officers eye - Medical report not released
Officers statement - not released
Police logs of incident ( radio report) - not released
I forgot an third review of the wounds that showed he was shot at least twice while "down".
Any witness yet that support the "unofficial" officers's version of the incident?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/10/michael-brown-witnesses_n_5801330.html

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
54. The DOJ conducted over 200 interviews.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:34 AM
Sep 2014

There's more out there than this.

The MSM may have moved on, especially now that it's looking worse for a RW 'hero', but the DOJ has not.

There's a reason Wilson hasn't reared his ugly head yet.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
56. I hope that is true. I am sure there are more witnesses and hopefully they have been interviewed
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:22 PM
Sep 2014

And, if this case ends up the way most of these cases have, with no charges by the local authorities, or an acquittal, the DOJ can make a Federal Case rather than what usually happens,

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
15. Everyone else is arrested at the drop of the hat! They have known this for weeks, ample evidence to
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:40 PM
Sep 2014

indict. Oh wait, the racist DA is still in charge!

dawnie51

(959 posts)
17. This is why the cop is in the air......
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 01:55 PM
Sep 2014

they are protecting and harboring a stone cold killer, who knows he was seen and there are multiple witnesses. For all we know the cop is in Singapore or some damned place. This should have been dealt with long ago....

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
18. We had so much hope in the '60s. Useless.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:29 PM
Sep 2014

JFK, MLK, RFK. Vietnam. The deterioration of the GOP to a Fascist wannabe. Destroying our planet and its climate. Government by the few, for the few. So much more, including this. I was an optimist. No more.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
42. +1000
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 10:28 AM
Sep 2014

I think the 60's fight for the right to vote and the right to be seen as a 100 per cent man/women, compared to white people and not just 3/5 of a man/woman was in principle the right fight/thing to do. Yet what have we ended up with? The ability to vote in a system where the most power/money/influence is in the hands of the few and the crumbs thrown to the fux news crowd keeps them happy enough to continue to defend this corrupt system that favors their skin color over all others, still. They have the RW media reminding them continually of that privilege system with photos of blacks shot down in the streets by state sanctioned execution and agitating the hate of those 'others' that are destroying their country of blatant bigotry and racism of all kinds.

All those murders I witnessed for this right to vote? Damn near meaningless. As seen today, those rights, hard fought for were nothing more than a placation tool for those brown skinned people. Nothing more, nothing less. Given that those crumbs are being taken away, again today in 2014, by our politicians and high court, I am truly disillusioned more than ever now and highly distrustful of a certain element vying for power and rule in this country.

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
55. I agree.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:41 AM
Sep 2014

I marched and was willing to die (we are so fearless at 15!) for the right to vote, for the right to be treated as an equal.

Now, I feel so much sadness for our country. It's being torn apart from within by the few who could care less about the country's welfare.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
19. From this point on the reasonable doubt game comes into play.
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 02:48 PM
Sep 2014

I understand reasonable doubt from the defense but without the shooters statement which is being paid for by the citizens of Ferguson this mess just gets worse. It would be interesting if there is actually a statement in writing from officer Wilson or did he invoke the 2nd amendment for self incrimination and not write a report? Most Police departments remove the officer immediately from the scene of the shooting as policy for officers self protection and to preserve evidence. Wilson was allowed to linger and pace around the body who is to say what his state of mind was at that time? Did his continued presence constitute a threat to the public? Obviously the witnesses were horrified.

What I expect is some sort of plea bargain and this will never come to trial. Given the level of stupid in the local Police Departments anything is possible.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
26. This is huge because they are not tainted by discussing with media or other witnesses
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 05:29 PM
Sep 2014

Extemporaneous utterances, really.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
31. the reaction if those 2 guys were black or some other minority
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 08:14 PM
Sep 2014

including on DU.

people would be saying "we don't KNOW for sure". "they are repeating what others are saying" and similar shit.

and criticism of how they are dressed, background check and if there are pics of them with middle finger as teenagers it would show we can't trust them. why weren't they doing the job they are there for insteading of standing around ........

CatWoman

(79,296 posts)
36. you must have missed those threads/posts, Hun
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 08:47 PM
Sep 2014

one DUer went so far as to post a gun story about the Ferguson Police, saying the FPD deserved praise.

Someone fired shots and the police apprehended them.

Thankfully that trash got locked.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
37. i meant we would be seeing those things on DU also
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 08:53 PM
Sep 2014

i missed the one about praising the FPD though but i'm not surprised.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
41. seriously.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:44 AM
Sep 2014

And how pathetic is it that here we are feeling relieved that there is now video of WHITE GUYS to corroborate what the black witnesses have said from the start.

Pathetic that we should have to feel that way, because the previous witnesses clearly didn't matter.

Same kind of feeling when a man speaks up for feminism....relief at seeing that points made repeatedly will now be given weight because...

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
39. at last
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:24 AM
Sep 2014

thank goodness for these implements that can record 'truth'. All those who want to defend wilson the executioner/murderer take a go at it.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
47. Well that is quite damning evidence.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 12:07 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Fri Sep 12, 2014, 01:12 PM - Edit history (1)

No wonder that killer cop ran off and hid.

And I agree with all the comments about how this illustrates White Privilege. It's a real thing people.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
49. This is not getting nearly the coverage it should by the media. MSM would rather focus on Ray Rice.
Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:14 AM
Sep 2014

This is what is wrong in the US. The media and who controls them.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
62. Cops, Churches and Corporate Persons
Mon Sep 15, 2014, 01:30 AM
Sep 2014

All pretty much untouchable by the law here in the good ole' US of A.

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