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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:53 PM Sep 2014

Teacher: No longer can I throw my students to the ‘testing wolves’

Teacher: No longer can I throw my students to the ‘testing wolves’


Veteran teacher Dawn Neely-Randall and Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown look at a post Neely-Randall wrote for The Answer Sheet about the reform movement. (Photo by Tom Traut)

Last spring, you wouldn’t find the fifth-graders in my Language Arts class reading as many rich, engaging pieces of literature as they had in the past or huddled over the same number of authentic projects as before. Why? Because I had to stop teaching to give them a Common Core Partnership for Assessment of Readiness for College and Careers (PARCC) online sample test that would prepare them for the upcoming PARCC pilot pre-test which would then prepare them for the PARCC pilot post test – all while taking the official Ohio Achievement Tests. This amounted to three tests, each 2 ½ hours, in a single week, the scores of which would determine the academic track students would be placed on in middle school the following year.

In addition to all of that, I had to stop their test prep lessons (also a load of fun) to take each class three floors down to our computer lab so they could take the Standardized Testing and Reporting (“STAR”) tests so graphs and charts could be made of their Student Growth Percentile (SGP) which would then provide quantitative evidence to suggest how these 10-year-olds would do on the “real” tests and also surmise the teacher’s (my) affect on their learning.

Tests, tests, and more freakin’ tests.


Parents upset as well.

One parent sent me her district’s calendar showing that students would complete 21 mandated (K-3) assessments before a child would even finish third grade. When I asked an Ohio Department of Education employee about this, she insisted there were not that many tests. When I read them to her one by one from the district’s calendar, she defended her position by saying that some of them were not from her department, but from another one. “But it’s the SAME kid!!!” I told her.

Indeed, it sure seems that school just isn’t for children anymore.


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Teacher: No longer can I throw my students to the ‘testing wolves’ (Original Post) madfloridian Sep 2014 OP
Another Red Hot Issue that seems to bring ignored by the powers that be.... AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #1
It's fairly standard... BadgerKid Sep 2014 #4
Isn't there a Bush company somewhere in the mix making millions off this? /nt Dragonfli Sep 2014 #5
A good article... AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #6
But why has President Obama embraced a Bush initiative? Enthusiast Sep 2014 #15
I'm sorry but I seriously have no understanding as to posting little cartoonish smiling men? AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #20
I'm sorry too. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #28
Excellent article, thanks. madfloridian Sep 2014 #18
Your welcome. It's a shame their are not a Million of you, I know how much time and AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #22
Those still working are fearful of speaking out. FL teachers have no tenure... madfloridian Sep 2014 #33
I agree. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #29
Neil. He spent all of the Silverado money on hookers, STD meds, and a divorce Doctor_J Sep 2014 #9
Ignored? MUAHAHA! Doctor_J Sep 2014 #8
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #16
+1 leftstreet Sep 2014 #21
it's appalling, and the mainstream Dems have been idiots for getting behind this zazen Sep 2014 #2
I read recently somewhere that kids in school have it harder than inmates in jail, Trillo Sep 2014 #3
Common Core is a private corporation!!!!! Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #7
By making the tests they are setting the agenda... madfloridian Sep 2014 #23
"....and also surmise the teacher’s (my) affect on their learning." ;-) WinkyDink Sep 2014 #10
it also drives students to charter schools and bbgrunt Sep 2014 #11
Well said. madfloridian Sep 2014 #30
Freedom to the teachers! Vots Sep 2014 #12
Yes, talk to teachers AND listen to them. madfloridian Sep 2014 #19
My mantra exactly. Hire good teachers, let them teach. madfloridian Sep 2014 #27
K&R.... daleanime Sep 2014 #13
As a semi-retired teacher Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2014 #14
K&R NealK Sep 2014 #17
Wow, 7 and 1/2 hours a WEEK dedicated to testing? For 10 yr olds? BuelahWitch Sep 2014 #24
Yes, the schedules for tests are mindboggling. Check out this schedule for Miami schools. madfloridian Sep 2014 #25
That's insane! n/t BuelahWitch Sep 2014 #26
Very good news video by Miami station.... madfloridian Sep 2014 #31
Systematic destruction of education to provide low wage workers. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #32

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
1. Another Red Hot Issue that seems to bring ignored by the powers that be....
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:09 PM
Sep 2014

I wonder exactly who is making money on the destruction of our school systems? It's definitely not the schools themselves

BadgerKid

(4,551 posts)
4. It's fairly standard...
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:55 PM
Sep 2014

Defining a goal, need, requirement, etc., brings about a business opportunity. Example: taxes.


AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
22. Your welcome. It's a shame their are not a Million of you, I know how much time and
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:12 PM
Sep 2014

energy you give in attempting to help one education system, it must be daunting.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
33. Those still working are fearful of speaking out. FL teachers have no tenure...
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 12:32 AM
Sep 2014

anyone hired since 2011 has no job security at all. So really it takes those of us retired to speak out. Teachers here are too afraid. Can't really blame them. Thanks for the kind words.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. Neil. He spent all of the Silverado money on hookers, STD meds, and a divorce
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:58 PM
Sep 2014

So the Bush Crime Family cooked up a scam to get him some more. Now the president is on board with it, so he can be pals with the Bush's in 2017.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
8. Ignored? MUAHAHA!
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:56 PM
Sep 2014

More like making sure it keeps going. They're getting rich off tax dollars, as usual. So they're hardly ignoring it.

2010 - Healthcare

Next - Education

Then - Social Security

they call it "privatizing". For you and me it's called "10 times the cost, 1/10th the quality. And of course some of you will do without. It's the price of freedom".

zazen

(2,978 posts)
2. it's appalling, and the mainstream Dems have been idiots for getting behind this
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:22 PM
Sep 2014

Thanks for posting.

I mean, _we_ know this is part of a neoliberal agenda supported by the corporatist mainstream of both parties, and that it sucks pedagogically for a hundred and one reasons.

But the rank and file parent is going to associate this with Obama and Arne Duncan rather than the Bush family, Pearson, Gates, et al, and hate the "common core" because it represents some vague government interference and because it's making their children miserable on a daily basis, rather than understand that it's representative of the philanthropic industrial global corporatist complex. I think a lot of people will vote against Dems just for supporting the common core, and I don't see any Dems in my state with the guts to stand up to it.

I've detested it since before its implementation and its implementation was so much worse than I could have imagined, but anyone who defends it immediately assumes I'm a radical republican (I'm a progressive feminist socialist with advanced degrees in educ policy--I'm hardly arguing against it based on conservative grounds).

Corporatist dems have really handed the Tea Party something with this disaster.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
3. I read recently somewhere that kids in school have it harder than inmates in jail,
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:32 PM
Sep 2014

because the kids have to successfully follow more orders throughout each day.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
7. Common Core is a private corporation!!!!!
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 05:48 PM
Sep 2014

Pearson is a private British corporation. WTH are the British doing teaching American kids? Working on winning the Revolutionary War post-mortem!?

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
11. it also drives students to charter schools and
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 06:12 PM
Sep 2014

out of public schools. Charter schools are not subject to the same standardized tests as public schools. So private firms make money on students in public schools through testing procedures and on charter schools through diverting money needed for public school students. It's win/win for private profits from students.

Vots

(24 posts)
12. Freedom to the teachers!
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 06:18 PM
Sep 2014

The neo-liberal in a lot of Dems really come out on this issue. This has been a complete money maker that was conjured up by a few rich elitists! Talk to teachers and listen to them, this Common Core crap has been terrible for the kids and we need to let TEACHERS TEACH!

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
14. As a semi-retired teacher
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 06:32 PM
Sep 2014

I am stocking up on GOOD stuff for my 2-1/2 year old grandson in the form of books, drawing, toys, field trips, library visits and conversation! This is what parents and grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins and other family members must do to truly educate our kids. TV, dumb expensive games, tablets, online junk are no substitute.



BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
24. Wow, 7 and 1/2 hours a WEEK dedicated to testing? For 10 yr olds?
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 01:34 AM
Sep 2014

Not to mention the tests down in the computer lab (she doesn't give a time frame for that). Sounds like it's almost 2 days out of 5 (when you add up the hours) simply devoted to testing, or preparing for the test.

All kids are learning is how to take a test!

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