Washington State Megachurch Closes Branches After Founder Is Caught Calling Women ‘Penis Homes'

[big_dog]

On Monday, “Love, Joe, Feminism” blogger Libby Anne pointed out one of the more disturbing notions from Mark Driscoll’s Internet trolling days. Driscoll told church members on August 25 that he was taking a six-week leave of absence from the church.

“Ultimately, God created you and it is his penis. You are simply borrowing it for a while,” Driscoll wrote under the name 'William Wallace II' in 2001. “Knowing that His penis would need a home, God created a woman to be your wife and when you marry her and look down you will notice that your wife is shaped differently than you and makes a very nice home.”

“Therefore, if you are single you must remember that your penis is homeless and needs a home,” he continued. “But, though you may believe your hand is shaped like a home, it is not… And, if you look at a man it is quite obvious that what a homeless man does not need is another man without a home.”

Anne observed that she had “rarely seen an evangelical man assert male superiority and prominence this directly.” “In Driscoll’s treatment, women are no more than penis homes,” she wrote. “Women were created to satisfy men. There is nothing uplifting or honored in that.” Over the weekend, Mars Hill Church said that “negative media attention” had caused financial difficulties, and announced that it would consolidate several branches and lay off employees.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/08/wash-state-megachurch-closes-branches-after-founder-is-caught-calling-women-penis-homes/

[RKP5637]

1. Yep, religion again. SOS! The faithful are so easy to flock together and extract $$$$$ from for

ones personal gain. ... just have to be careful what one says.

[roguevalley]

18. this is mental illness using religion to pay his bills. Period

this has nothing to do with anything but a sick mind

[TlalocW]

2. I'm picturing Adam Sandler in Happy Gilmore

Losing his temper while trying to learn how to putt in golf. "Why didn’t you go home?! That’s your home! Are you too good for your home?! Answer me!"

TlalocW

[NightWatcher]

9. I pictured Billy Madison

The pee pee goes into the pee pee home and that makes the babies come from the stork.

It sounds like he got a 5th grade biology book

[vlyons]

3. Just another false guru -- of the Christian variety

Lesson to be learned? Never put anyone on a pedastal, because there's only one thing that can be done afterwareds. And that is ... knock 'em off.

[icymist]

31. Totally right. If you can't find it within yourself that these truths are truths...

and the falseness to be false, then you will be led by your nose to places that you do not want to go.

That's why I'm Pagan. It's true to me.

I don't consider Christianity wrong, or Judaism wrong, even though I was brought up in those, I find more truth in Buddhism and Wicca.

[hlthe2b]

4. How charming....

(for a three year old)

[leftstreet]

5. Penis homes?

[NightWatcher]

10. how cozy

[Arugula Latte]

14. Here's another penis home -- and best of all, it used to be a church!

[hifiguy]

6. Wut??

:WTF:





This may just be the elusive ground zero of stupidity, much discussed but not previously located.

[tazkcmo]

7. Consolidate and lay off

Doesn't sound like a church...

[big_dog]

8. because 1/2 of thje collection plate just disappeared

its always about the $$$

[freshwest]

17. They only 'believe' as long as it pays.

[freeplessinseattle]

11. oh my I didn't hear about this

What a power hungry creep on so many levels, glad they stood up to him!

[MineralMan]

12. Looks like that particular dick is going to need a new home.

[ReRe]

36. .

[heaven05]

13. and I bet he votes republican

[Arugula Latte]

15. Misogyny and control of women is the very purpose of the Big Three desert-originated monotheisms.

[demigoddess]

19. you got it so right!!

the whole 'Big Three desert originated monotheisms' were created to take power from women centered societies back when women's work was actually more important than men's. Women grew food, created clothing and homes, foraged for such things as honey and other food items. Men hunted, but sometimes came back empty handed. Finally men just decided males being in charge was a better idea.

[Arugula Latte]

20. Gotta crush that goddess worship!

Can't have the wimminfolk thinking they're worth anything, ya know!

[littlemissmartypants]

21. Yep. nt

[RufusTFirefly]

26. If you haven't already read "The Alphabet Versus the Goddess," ...

... I'm guessing you might enjoy it.

"Literacy has promoted the subjugation of women by men throughout all but the very recent history of the West," writes Leonard Shlain. "Misogyny and patriarchy rise and fall with the fortunes of the alphabetic written word."

That's a pretty audacious claim, one that The Alphabet Versus the Goddess provides extensive historical and cultural correlations to support. Shlain's thesis takes readers from the evolutionary steps that distinguish the human brain from that of the primates to the development of the Internet. The very act of learning written language, he argues, exercises the human brain's left hemisphere--the half that handles linear, abstract thought--and enforces its dominance over the right hemisphere, which thinks holistically and visually. If you accept the idea that linear abstraction is a masculine trait, and that holistic visualization is feminine, the rest of the theory falls into place. The flip side is that as visual orientation returns to prominence within society through film, television, and cyberspace, the status of women increases, soon to return to the equilibrium of the earliest human cultures....

Amazon.com Review

[nomorenomore08]

32. Seems like the usual basic problem - everything's out of balance.

Whereas if people were willing - or weren't afraid - to balance the masculine and feminine, the linear and holistic, within themselves, then maybe society (and the world as a whole) wouldn't be so incredibly dysfunctional.

[demigoddess]

44. out of balance and

going to war all the time keeps it out of balance. Every time we have a war we have to spend 10-15 years recovering from it. Now we are just having perpetual war.

[nomorenomore08]

48. Because we've always been at war with Oceania, right?

[demigoddess]

60. I don't get your comment

are you trying to say I have fallen for propaganda, or I am spreading propaganda?? Having been married at the time of the Vietnam war and seen the aftermath, I am old enough to see history and know what happens. I also was a history buff who specialized in war and its aftermath.

[nomorenomore08]

61. Not at at all. I was saying how we've been propagandized, collectively, to support

whatever aggressive actions our government feels "necessary." You or I may not support it individually, but as we've seen on DU, even a lot of Democrats slip into that "hawkish" stance very easily.

[ReRe]

38. Women were most revered because...

... they gave birth.

[nomorenomore08]

49. Which is one reason why the prospect of overpopulation worries me so much.

Seems quite possible that, as Earth's resources become increasingly strained, women (being the "birth-givers&quot will face an upsurge in cultural misogyny.

Also a big reason why reducing women to vessels for childbirth - as the Christian Right tends to do - is not only wrong but dangerous.

[ReRe]

53. So let me get this straight...

... you are worried that women will somehow be blamed and persecuted for the dilemma of overpopulation in the future? As time goes on, women in America are having fewer and fewer children. Stop worrying.

[nomorenomore08]

55. I know. But I was thinking more worldwide than just in this country.

And my general pessimism about the collective future of humanity has a lot to do with it too. I foresee a lot of ugly stuff coming down the pike, though I hope I'm at least partly wrong.

[ReRe]

59. Ahh...

... well there's plenty of ugly stuff going on globally right now and it's been going on since time began. You sound like a candidate for Peace Corp or some NGO with the UN. Hope you find something to put your worry to work.

[TygrBright]

16. To be fair, the dude totally LOOKS like a penis. With stage-3 melanoma. n/t

[Orsino]

22. Waiting for his gay sex tape in 3...2...1... n/t

[armed_and_liberal]

23. ain't got no home...

Ain't got no home
No place to roam
Ain't got no home
No place to roam
I'm a lonely schlong
I ain't got a home

[knightmaar]

24. This is pretty standard stuff

Don't know why the church would get upset over it.

The bible is full of this mentality regarding reproduction and the duty of men and women to produce children for their god.

Was he too explicit? Was that it?

[Initech]

25. I've seen tons of homes and buildings that look like penises.

[blkmusclmachine]

27. Rightwing Christianity = Hardcore Authoritarianism

[Rex]

28. Well then this Church must be on loan from God.

[Initech]

46. You win the thread!

[tblue37]

57. Are you kidding? He wins the whole darned internet! nt

[shenmue]

29. That is some of the weirdest 'reasoning'

I have heard in a long time.

[bettyellen]

30. Same as that "Bonobo theory" re: penii, we were all treated to, no?

More biological imperative bullshit, differnt person.

[nomorenomore08]

33. William Wallace II? Such delusions of grandeur!

I mean, there may be certain moments when I - being of roughly 50% Scottish heritage - might like to pretend I'm one of William Wallace's descendents, but at least I recognize that for the silliness it is.

And of course, the rest of the guy's spiel is just laughable (albeit potentially dangerous) bullshit.

[DetlefK]

34. Does he want to end up like the original William Wallace?

[nomorenomore08]

35. Yeah, I think that'd be pretty extreme even for a mega-asshole like Driscoll...

[tblue37]

58. But did you know that according to the statistics page at the start of each Harper's Magazine,

there is a 1 in 200 chance that any man alive today is a direct descendant of Ghengis Khan? (Of course, if the man happens to be from certain parts of the world, that statistical probability would go up significantly.)

[rpannier]

37. Branches??

Sounds more like Mc Donalds or 7-11

[JackInGreen]

39. I've been watching these folks from close range

and watched as they nearly drove some very good friends past the brink of insanity with their indoctrination. This man is a breathing puddle of fetid santorum and needs to be flushed.

[hunter]

40. I wonder how that works for him as a pickup line.

"Hey babe, my penis is looking for a home!"

[Enrique]

45. here's one ladies could use

"if your penis lived here, it would be home by now"

[hunter]

47. ...just before she pours her drink on him.

[nomorenomore08]

50. Jeez dude, was your phone call really *that* important?

Though on the upside, I'll bet they had some pretty hot make-up sex later that night.

[leftyladyfrommo]

41. Good Grief!

And he actually had people listening to him?

[nomorenomore08]

51. Many thousands of people, unfortunately. Never ceases to amaze me how gullible some folks are.

*shakes head*

[catbyte]

42. Ewwwww

[toby jo]

43. Oh god and people are walking the earth with this stuff in their heads ???

[Generic Other]

52. This is the church and this is the steeple

Look inside and see the penis people!!

[grahamhgreen]

54. If it's God's penis, and I play with it, does that make God gay?

[nomorenomore08]

56. ...