Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:10 PM

RandySF (5,299 posts)

I'm quickly losing my confidence in this State Attorney.

She's obviously enjoying her time in front of the cameras. I'm worried that the Murder Two charge may be a Hail Mary to enhance her career. She might screw this one up.

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I'm quickly losing my confidence in this State Attorney. (Original post)	RandySF	Apr 2012	OP
I don't think so.	madaboutharry	Apr 2012	#1
And an avid right-winger	lumpy	Apr 2012	#34
I don't see that her politics matter.	madaboutharry	Apr 2012	#38
What do you base that on? (I know nothing about her.)	11 Bravo	Apr 2012	#39
I disagree. She's confident and apparently knows her stuff. Give her a chance.	Booster	Apr 2012	#2
+1	ellisonz	Apr 2012	#3
She's a good prosecutor	XanaDUer	Apr 2012	#4
thanks	Whisp	Apr 2012	#30
Yes some things transcend politics imo. Nt	XanaDUer	Apr 2012	#43
Sorry you don't understand the process;	elleng	Apr 2012	#5
She seems knowledgeable and easy in front of a crowd which is really	WCGreen	Apr 2012	#6
I like her.	MoonRiver	Apr 2012	#7
I thought she was dressed more for an evening at the theater?	notadmblnd	Apr 2012	#8
facepalm	nolabear	Apr 2012	#26
yeh, I was willing to give her the benefit a doubt too until	Whisp	Apr 2012	#31
I think she's just a flashy dresser	grasswire	Apr 2012	#32
Florida is BushCo's playground.	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#9
oh my. so that she dismissed the GJ and indicted Zimmerman	cali	Apr 2012	#15
Next time you put words in my mouth, I hope you choose more rational ones.	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#24
well	qazplm	Apr 2012	#27
what? that things don't always go by the book in florida?	arely staircase	Apr 2012	#33
What part of "Florida is BushCo's playground" is irrational, exactly?	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#41
.	NCTraveler	Apr 2012	#50
I heard the woman is good. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#10
I did, too -- and I think it was from a pretty objective source (some guest	gateley	Apr 2012	#14
That's what I heard. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#46
Murder 2 sounds about right for GZ, given that it's Florida. Not a "Hail Mary Pass." eom	leveymg	Apr 2012	#11
She's acting responsible.	Major Hogwash	Apr 2012	#12
Sounds competent and confident.	aquart	Apr 2012	#13
Read on her conviction rate.	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#16
lol, I just said that to my family - "She's enjoying this too much."	dmr	Apr 2012	#17
Agree n/t	godai	Apr 2012	#22
Thanks for the Concern Thread, posted not 2 mins into the presser. Fail. n/t	K Gardner	Apr 2012	#18
I disagree, judging someone on their presser is ridiculous. nt	Raine	Apr 2012	#19
Why is she being so nice to Zimmerman?	godai	Apr 2012	#20
I covered law enforcement and courts as a reporter for years.	Fawke Em	Apr 2012	#21
Not necessarily	guitar man	Apr 2012	#23
I completely disagree. She's being professional and helpful.	nolabear	Apr 2012	#25
You got it just right. The only thing I can't believe is the way she thanked the Governor Rick Scot	Justice wanted	Apr 2012	#28
Exactly. Too much smiling. A big, fat NRA check in her Republican back pocket? nt	onehandle	Apr 2012	#29
Good God, what a bizarre speculation based on nothing but bias.	nolabear	Apr 2012	#35
I hear you. Sometimes this place gets pretty fucking surreal.	11 Bravo	Apr 2012	#40
I don't fully trust her	gopiscrap	Apr 2012	#36
I knew this would happen.	Dreamer Tatum	Apr 2012	#37
Sadly, this case has turned into a business for many.	Zax2me	Apr 2012	#44
I'm happy that Zimmerman is being charged.	RandySF	Apr 2012	#45
She has a reputation as a tough prosecutor.	bluestate10	Apr 2012	#42
She charged murder two	Blue_In_AK	Apr 2012	#47
she wouldn't take a case to lose it.	spanone	Apr 2012	#48
This woman is tough. Look up her conviction rate.	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#49

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:12 PM

madaboutharry (21,253 posts)

1. I don't think so.

She doesn't need to be grim and scowl. From everything I have read, she is very hard nose and tough.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:44 PM

lumpy (12,146 posts)

34. And an avid right-winger

for what its worth

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Response to lumpy (Reply #34)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:56 PM

madaboutharry (21,253 posts)

38. I don't see that her politics matter.

The only thing that matters is her competency.

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Response to lumpy (Reply #34)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:02 PM

11 Bravo (15,569 posts)

39. What do you base that on? (I know nothing about her.)

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:13 PM

Booster (9,878 posts)

2. I disagree. She's confident and apparently knows her stuff. Give her a chance.

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Response to Booster (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:14 PM

ellisonz (26,326 posts)

3. +1

She is being very professional, as she should be.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:14 PM

XanaDUer (12,926 posts)

4. She's a good prosecutor

I lived in that area. She's into victims' rights.

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Response to XanaDUer (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:31 PM

Whisp (17,881 posts)

30. thanks

I thought she was as professional as can be and I don't suspect her motives just because she's a Repuglican.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #30)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:40 PM

XanaDUer (12,926 posts)

43. Yes some things transcend politics imo. Nt

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:14 PM

elleng (40,928 posts)

5. Sorry you don't understand the process;

she has to run for her position, unfortunately, but she still does her job.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:14 PM

WCGreen (45,044 posts)

6. She seems knowledgeable and easy in front of a crowd which is really

important in a trial such as this...

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:15 PM

MoonRiver (17,031 posts)

7. I like her.

She was very sympathetic and positive about Trayvon's parents.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:15 PM

notadmblnd (17,166 posts)

8. I thought she was dressed more for an evening at the theater?

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I was giving her the benefit of the doubt because there may be an event after the conference, but then I listened to her introduce her two assistant attorneys.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:24 PM

nolabear (15,015 posts)

26. facepalm

Seriously? That's what you pull out of this?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:32 PM

Whisp (17,881 posts)

31. yeh, I was willing to give her the benefit a doubt too until

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I saw what she was wearing.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:33 PM

grasswire (36,881 posts)

32. I think she's just a flashy dresser

When I have seen her on TV previously, I noticed that too.

Some people just routinely overdress, yanno?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:15 PM

EFerrari (163,986 posts)

9. Florida is BushCo's playground.

There is no real reason to start out with any confidence.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:19 PM

cali (81,191 posts)

15. oh my. so that she dismissed the GJ and indicted Zimmerman

on 2nd degree murder means nothing?

Silly..

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Response to cali (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:22 PM

EFerrari (163,986 posts)

24. Next time you put words in my mouth, I hope you choose more rational ones.

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lol

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:28 PM

qazplm (3,227 posts)

27. well

the words you used weren't exactly high on the rational/logical scale either.

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Response to qazplm (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:36 PM

arely staircase (5,018 posts)

33. what? that things don't always go by the book in florida?

how is that remotely an irrational or illogical point of view? jeez.

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Response to qazplm (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:24 PM

EFerrari (163,986 posts)

41. What part of "Florida is BushCo's playground" is irrational, exactly?

All I did was observe the obvious.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:02 PM

NCTraveler (1,837 posts)

50. .

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:16 PM

Sarah Ibarruri (18,667 posts)

10. I heard the woman is good. nt

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Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:18 PM

gateley (61,965 posts)

14. I did, too -- and I think it was from a pretty objective source (some guest

on MSNBC, no doubt). That she isn't swayed by pressure and will do what's right for the defendant AND for the accused.

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Response to gateley (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:42 PM

Sarah Ibarruri (18,667 posts)

46. That's what I heard. nt

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:16 PM

leveymg (26,789 posts)

11. Murder 2 sounds about right for GZ, given that it's Florida. Not a "Hail Mary Pass." eom

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:17 PM

Major Hogwash (12,626 posts)

12. She's acting responsible.

Perhaps the first person in this saga who has.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:18 PM

aquart (67,682 posts)

13. Sounds competent and confident.

Precisely what I want.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:19 PM

nadinbrzezinski (121,678 posts)

16. Read on her conviction rate.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:19 PM

dmr (25,839 posts)

17. lol, I just said that to my family - "She's enjoying this too much."

I hate announcements like these - too much politics, & bringing God into it, & also maybe dreams of a future job as a Fox analyst. Ok, ok, I'm jaded.

She's talking a lot for saying so little.

I suppose not everyone can be as dedicated as Fitzgerald.

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Response to dmr (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:21 PM

godai (2,838 posts)

22. Agree n/t

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:19 PM

K Gardner (14,805 posts)

18. Thanks for the Concern Thread, posted not 2 mins into the presser. Fail. n/t

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:19 PM

Raine (20,236 posts)

19. I disagree, judging someone on their presser is ridiculous. nt

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:20 PM

godai (2,838 posts)

20. Why is she being so nice to Zimmerman?

She supposedly thinks he's a murderer. She comes off as a political animal, way too upbeat and complimentary.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:21 PM

Fawke Em (2,576 posts)

21. I covered law enforcement and courts as a reporter for years.

She sounds extremely professional and informative to me.

She got a little snarky after being asked the same question over and over (what made her decide on 2nd degree murder), but I would, too, if I had repeatedly said I couldn't address that issue, yet.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:22 PM

guitar man (15,996 posts)

23. Not necessarily

We don't know how much info she's got that we haven't seen or heard yet. What seems like a hail mary to us may in reality be closer to a slam dunk.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:23 PM

nolabear (15,015 posts)

25. I completely disagree. She's being professional and helpful.

She is good in front of the camera. That isn't a bad thing. Anyone who can think and be clear and concise when facing this kind of craziness is to be admired. She's showing some emotion but at an absolutely appropriate level.

Like her a lot thus far.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #25)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:29 PM

Justice wanted (2,657 posts)

28. You got it just right. The only thing I can't believe is the way she thanked the Governor Rick Scot

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:30 PM

onehandle (35,987 posts)

29. Exactly. Too much smiling. A big, fat NRA check in her Republican back pocket? nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #29)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:54 PM

nolabear (15,015 posts)

35. Good God, what a bizarre speculation based on nothing but bias.

Too much smiling?

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Response to nolabear (Reply #35)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 08:06 PM

11 Bravo (15,569 posts)

40. I hear you. Sometimes this place gets pretty fucking surreal.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:41 PM

gopiscrap (2,553 posts)

36. I don't fully trust her

she is a fucking asshole right wing repuke..did you she how much ass licking she did of that fuckwad gov. Florida has? I don't think any repuke has the ability to be fair about anything!

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:46 PM

Dreamer Tatum (7,271 posts)

37. I knew this would happen.

Unhappy with or without an indictment. Must be horrible to be certain people.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:43 PM

Zax2me (2,515 posts)

44. Sadly, this case has turned into a business for many.

Of course it won't end.
Even after conviction.
We're a bad country - why?
Don't you remember THE ZIMMERMAN STORY? So recent blah blah.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:54 PM

RandySF (5,299 posts)

45. I'm happy that Zimmerman is being charged.

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But I hav a bad feeling that the prosecutor is star-struck by the media attention and is going to the hardest charge to get a conviction on.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:37 PM

bluestate10 (8,667 posts)

42. She has a reputation as a tough prosecutor.

She has tried cases that got lots of publicity before. I will let the case play out. Trayon Martin's parents should see his killer tried and Zimmerman should get his day in court to defend his actions. Zimmerman's new attorney seemed to have left open the possibility of pleaing for a lesser charge.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:44 PM

Blue_In_AK (37,826 posts)

47. She charged murder two

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to leave open the lesser included offense of manslaughter. If she can't prove enough for a second-degree murder conviction, she most surely can prove enough for manslaughter. Prosecutors always bring the most serious charge they can, even if they're not sure they can convict.

"Lesser included" is the name of the game.

edit: After reading this thread, did I miss the point? People are concerned for how she was dressed? Hmm ... I thought the OP had to do with the charge. Silly me.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:47 PM

spanone (72,278 posts)

48. she wouldn't take a case to lose it.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:01 PM

DevonRex (20,384 posts)

49. This woman is tough. Look up her conviction rate.

She is a seasoned state prosecutor, of course she's comfortable in front of a camera. What? Did you expect her to mumble and stutter? She's experienced. Attorneys don't do what they do because they hate being in front of a crowd or in front of a microphone or in front of the press. Some of them DID hate it but love justice so much that they overcame it. You'd better be thanking god or your lucky stars or your tennis shoes that she's enjoying her job because she HAS to in order to do it right. Do you have any idea how many frickin hours they put in during a week? I do.

Think about it.

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General Discussion (Forum)

I'm quickly losing my confidence in this State Attorney.

1. I don't think so.

34. And an avid right-winger

38. I don't see that her politics matter.

39. What do you base that on? (I know nothing about her.)

2. I disagree. She's confident and apparently knows her stuff. Give her a chance.

3. +1

4. She's a good prosecutor

30. thanks

43. Yes some things transcend politics imo. Nt

5. Sorry you don't understand the process;

6. She seems knowledgeable and easy in front of a crowd which is really

7. I like her.

8. I thought she was dressed more for an evening at the theater?

26. *facepalm*

31. yeh, I was willing to give her the benefit a doubt too until

32. I think she's just a flashy dresser

9. Florida is BushCo's playground.

15. oh my. so that she dismissed the GJ and indicted Zimmerman

24. Next time you put words in my mouth, I hope you choose more rational ones.

27. well

33. what? that things don't always go by the book in florida?

41. What part of "Florida is BushCo's playground" is irrational, exactly?

50. .

10. I heard the woman is good. nt

14. I did, too -- and I think it was from a pretty objective source (some guest

46. That's what I heard. nt

11. Murder 2 sounds about right for GZ, given that it's Florida. Not a "Hail Mary Pass." eom

12. She's acting responsible.

13. Sounds competent and confident.

16. Read on her conviction rate.

17. lol, I just said that to my family - "She's enjoying this too much."

22. Agree n/t

18. Thanks for the Concern Thread, posted not 2 mins into the presser. Fail. n/t

19. I disagree, judging someone on their presser is ridiculous. nt

20. Why is she being so nice to Zimmerman?

21. I covered law enforcement and courts as a reporter for years.

23. Not necessarily

25. I completely disagree. She's being professional and helpful.

28. You got it just right. The only thing I can't believe is the way she thanked the Governor Rick Scot

29. Exactly. Too much smiling. A big, fat NRA check in her Republican back pocket? nt

35. Good God, what a bizarre speculation based on nothing but bias.

40. I hear you. Sometimes this place gets pretty fucking surreal.

36. I don't fully trust her

37. I knew this would happen.

44. Sadly, this case has turned into a business for many.

45. I'm happy that Zimmerman is being charged.

42. She has a reputation as a tough prosecutor.

47. She charged murder two

48. she wouldn't take a case to lose it.

49. This woman is tough. Look up her conviction rate.

26. facepalm