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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 03:50 PM Aug 2014

The US bombing its own guns perfectly sums up America’s total failure in Iraq

Warning...this may cause your brain to hurt.....


The absurdity runs deep: America is using American military equipment to bomb other pieces of American military equipment halfway around the world. The reason the American military equipment got there in the first place was because, in 2003, the US had to use its military to rebuild the Iraqi army, which it just finished destroying with the American military. The American weapons the US gave the Iraqi army totally failed at making Iraq secure and have become tools of terror used by an offshoot of al-Qaeda to terrorize the Iraqis that the US supposedly liberated a decade ago. And so now the US has to use American weaponry to destroy the American weaponry it gave Iraqis to make Iraqis safer, in order to make Iraqis safer.

It keeps going: the US is intervening on behalf of Iraqi Kurds, our ally, because their military has old Russian-made weapons, whereas ISIS, which is America's enemy, has higher-quality American weapons. "[Kurdish forces] are literally outgunned by an ISIS that is fighting with hundreds of millions of dollars of U.S. military equipment seized from the Iraqi Army who abandoned it," Ali Khedery, a former American official in Iraq, told the New York Times.

More: One reason that ISIS has been so successful at conquering northern Iraq is that it has a huge base of operations in Syria, where it had exploited the civil war to overtake huge swathes of Syrian territory. One reason that ISIS was so successful in Syria is that the US refused to arm moderate Syrian rebels, for fear that the weapons would fall into ISIS's hands. So that made it easier for ISIS to overpower the under-funded moderate rebels, and now ISIS has seized, in Iraq, much better versions of the weapons that we were so worried they might acquire in Syria. So now we're bombing the guns that we didn't mean to give ISIS because we didn't give guns to their enemies because then ISIS might get guns.
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/8/5982501/the-us-is-now-bombing-its-own-military-equipment-in-iraq

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The US bombing its own guns perfectly sums up America’s total failure in Iraq (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 OP
And the war profiteers just keep on making money....nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #1
to the MIC our president and congress are the gift that won't stop giving nt msongs Aug 2014 #2
It's Milo Minderbinder's dream come true. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #3
Good catch!!!! dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #5
It's madness malaise Aug 2014 #4
Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa. bemildred Aug 2014 #6
It would be hilarious if there weren't so many people dying Dems to Win Aug 2014 #7
The total failure TexasProgresive Aug 2014 #8
Yep loyalsister Aug 2014 #12
Heckuva job, Frat Boy Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #9
K&R!!!!! newfie11 Aug 2014 #10
If it were peaceful over there, the price of oil might drop. arcane1 Aug 2014 #11
Peaceful? Middle East? Has it ever been? rickyhall Aug 2014 #15
Iraq !! bleedinglib Aug 2014 #13
I have one problem with that article malletgirl02 Aug 2014 #14
Yes, it's a very sly article that tries to slip that one by us. nt CJCRANE Aug 2014 #19
We will not... americannightmare Aug 2014 #16
Arms Merchants of Death Martin Eden Aug 2014 #17
You were right . . . Brigid Aug 2014 #18
We Might As Well Punch Ourselves In The Face. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #20
Total failure? WilliamPitt Aug 2014 #21
This must be what Smedley Butler meant: Brigid Aug 2014 #22
Yup, and the bankers profit from every massive loan, woo me with science Sep 2014 #23
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
3. It's Milo Minderbinder's dream come true.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:03 PM
Aug 2014

In Catch-22, Milo contracted to have American planes bomb their own airfield.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:06 PM
Aug 2014
we're bombing the guns that we didn't mean to give ISIS because we didn't give guns to their enemies because then ISIS might get guns

Priceless.
 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
7. It would be hilarious if there weren't so many people dying
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 04:12 PM
Aug 2014

The US, UK, and France are still not arming the people who are willing to fight ISIS -- the Kurdish peshmergas -- because the Baghdad government won't approve arming the Kurds:

http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/22082014

Even though the Iraqi army turned tail and ran in the face of ISIS, the official army refused to defend the Christians and Yazidis, the Baghdad government still won't approve arming the Kurds who are willing to fight ISIS.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
12. Yep
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 05:49 PM
Aug 2014

I bet there was once a white paper on how long it would take for this to happen. When the timeline showed it would be someone else's problem all systems were go.

bleedinglib

(212 posts)
13. Iraq !!
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 06:01 PM
Aug 2014

Iraq was much better off under the dictator we installed too fight the Iranians?
Gee, I wonder how George Bush & President Cheney are doing these days?

malletgirl02

(1,523 posts)
14. I have one problem with that article
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 06:01 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Sat Aug 23, 2014, 07:43 PM - Edit history (1)

The fact that it claims that the U.S. did not arm the Syrian rebels. So the author wants more U.S. involvement in Syria. I thought the U.S. was giving them arms covertly. There is an article about it:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-usa-syria-rebels-idUSBREA0Q1S320140127

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
20. We Might As Well Punch Ourselves In The Face.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 07:17 PM
Aug 2014

We are fighting Westerners, who are using American weapons to fight with, and using American owned social media such as Facebook, Twitter and Youtube to recruit and spread their propaganda, and many of whom were also trained by our allies.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
21. Total failure?
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 07:20 PM
Aug 2014

It's a total success for the people who sold the shit.

Oh, and they're also getting paid for the bombs and jets and fuel being used to destroy the shit they already got paid for.

War profiteering is a wheel. It goes round and round.

...and pays for the people who choose to keep shooting.

See?

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
23. Yup, and the bankers profit from every massive loan,
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:25 PM
Sep 2014

and the contractors and oilmen profit from every devastated country running with blood.

It's a bloodfest of profit, all perpetrated in our name.

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