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Or even IDs or name tags in Ferguson
Cha
(296,853 posts)Chickenshits.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Obviously there is some fear of retaliation by the population they are preparing to suppress.
In an internet age where facial recognition is available; I'm not sure removal of a badge or name tag provides as much anonymity as it once might have.
But there is also the possibility of the psychology of liberating power of perceiving oneself anonymous. It's pretty well known people feel freer to act out when they can't be held accountable.
And there is also the moral building psychological component of taking steps considered to be preparation for battle that contributes to the acquisition of a conflict ready mindset.
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)the name of the city is Ferguson, Missouri.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)This was ordered by higher ups which is against code.
corrected spelling.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)What code, and are there exceptions - like, a state of emergency?
gordianot
(15,234 posts)Actually those uniforms are not that difficult to reproduce including the badge. They do have to identify themselves, and with a Deaf or Blind person meet guidelines of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Just checked all American Military Uniforms except some Special Forces have last name and military branch.
Chapter 575
Offenses Against the Administration of Justice
Section 575.120
August 28, 2013n
False impersonation--penalties.
575.120. 1. A person commits the crime of false impersonation if such person:
(1) Falsely represents himself or herself to be a public servant with purpose to induce another to submit to his or her pretended official authority or to rely upon his or her pretended official acts, and
(a) Performs an act in that pretended capacity; or
(b) Causes another to act in reliance upon his or her pretended official authority;
(2) Falsely represents himself or herself to be a person licensed to practice or engage in any profession for which a license is required by the laws of this state with purpose to induce another to rely upon such representation, and
(a) Performs an act in that pretended capacity; or
(b) Causes another to act in reliance upon such representation; or
(3) Upon being arrested, falsely represents himself or herself, to a law enforcement officer, with the first and last name, date of birth, or Social Security number, or a substantial number of identifying factors or characteristics as that of another person that results in the filing of a report or record of arrest or conviction for an infraction, misdemeanor, or felony that contains the first and last name, date of birth, and Social Security number, or a substantial number of identifying factors or characteristics to that of such other person as to cause such other person to be identified as the actual person arrested or convicted.
2. If a violation of subdivision (3) of subsection 1 of this section is discovered prior to any conviction of the person actually arrested for an underlying charge, then the prosecuting attorney, bringing any action on the underlying charge, shall notify the court thereof, and the court shall order the false-identifying factors ascribed to the person actually arrested as are contained in the arrest and court records amended to correctly and accurately identify the defendant and shall expunge the incorrect and inaccurate identifying factors from the arrest and court records.
3. If a violation of subdivision (3) of subsection 1 of this section is discovered after any conviction of the person actually arrested for an underlying charge, then the prosecuting attorney of the county in which the conviction occurred shall file a motion in the underlying case with the court to correct the arrest and court records after discovery of the fraud upon the court. The court shall order the false identifying factors ascribed to the person actually arrested as are contained in the arrest and court records amended to correctly and accurately identify the defendant and shall expunge the incorrect and inaccurate identifying factors from the arrest and court records.
4. Any person who is the victim of a false impersonation and whose identity has been falsely reported in arrest or conviction records may move for expungement and correction of said records under the procedures set forth in section 610.123. Upon a showing that a substantial number of identifying factors of the victim was falsely ascribed to the person actually arrested or convicted, the court shall order the false identifying factors ascribed to the person actually arrested as are contained in the arrest and court records amended to correctly and accurately identify the defendant and shall expunge the incorrect and inaccurate factors from the arrest and court records.
5. False impersonation is a class B misdemeanor unless the person represents himself to be a law enforcement officer in which case false impersonation is a class A misdemeanor.
(L. 1977 S.B. 60, A.L. 2004 H.B. 916)
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)At the very least there is a jurisdictional identifier on their uniforms.
Who does *this* guy belong to:
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Hoppy
(3,595 posts)(yes, its scarcasm. no need for jury alert.)
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)VanGoghRocks
(621 posts)introduced hunter-killer teams into SoCal, obviously in complete violation of its charter, like that's ever stopped the CIA from doing anything.)
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)"I am Darren Wilson."
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Heidi
(58,237 posts)Hoppy
(3,595 posts)in the 19th century.
Now they are clearly saving money by not paying for a badge for the guy on the right. No way that ugly mug is gonna be mis-identified.
Same with the DunKin D fan in center.
mwooldri
(10,301 posts)That bald headed guy in the middle appears to have a gut size bigger than his chest size. The guy right behind and to the right doesn't look that much fitter either.
Sorry but I'm accustomed to police officers having a better physique than that portrayed in that photo.
allan01
(1,950 posts)no name plates , no badges, they are out of uniiform and should be fired end of story
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)They can't be identified by the citizens they are terrorizing.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Missouri
Show Me State A name attributed to Representative Willard Van Diver. It connotes a certain self-deprecating stubbornness and devotion to simple common sense.
Time for name change Missouri.
gordianot
(15,234 posts)On Dragnet plain clothed officer Sgt. Friday always presented his badge first before saying "Just the facts mam".
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)What kind of fool would allow all those pigs to walk around with loaded assault weapons?
BTW: It would be fun to dress like one of the cops and sneak up into their ranks, wouldn't it? Heck, most of those bubs don't know one jack from the other. So it makes you wonder just how many of them are actual cops?
JEB
(4,748 posts)Cops going rogue.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)underpants
(182,626 posts)It's pretty easy to make out the cops in that mess of a town.
But your point is accurate - you can't file a report and indentify "that guy"
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Please correct me if I am wrong.
If so, they are acting out without police authority.