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AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 04:30 PM Aug 2014

Ferguson Police Excuses Destroyed As Anonymous Shares Dispatch Recordings (AUDIO)

The cop reported that a crowd was forming before reporting the shooting.

Listen for yourself, the first notice of the event begins around the 10 minute mark, when the first call for crowd control came in.

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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/15/anonymous-dispatch/
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Ferguson Police Excuses Destroyed As Anonymous Shares Dispatch Recordings (AUDIO) (Original Post) AgingAmerican Aug 2014 OP
I thought the big thing was that he did not call in and report the shooting, the police heard bettyellen Aug 2014 #1
Anonymous Action_Patrol Aug 2014 #2
It says it is ST. Louis Dispatch. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #3
Which would be... Action_Patrol Aug 2014 #5
Yes, except that they didn't tell St. Louis that is was an officer involved shooting Live and Learn Aug 2014 #7
It seems we are missing a lot Action_Patrol Aug 2014 #8
True, we only get bits and pieces. nt Live and Learn Aug 2014 #9
St Louis County PD and Ferguson PD are two separate entities Michigander_Life Aug 2014 #4
I couldn't find the video quickly cleduc Aug 2014 #6
The dispatcher is saying that the officer involved shooting info is "coming from the news". PotatoChip Aug 2014 #10
I found a copy cleduc Aug 2014 #11
Anonymous is like the tide. You don't know what it's going to bring in. randome Aug 2014 #12
They have empathy, a strong sense of right and wrong and critical thinking skills. 20score Aug 2014 #13
However Action_Patrol Aug 2014 #14
Those vaunted critical thinking skills mythology Aug 2014 #15
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. I thought the big thing was that he did not call in and report the shooting, the police heard
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 04:33 PM
Aug 2014

that from someone else?

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
2. Anonymous
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:05 PM
Aug 2014

I don't think this is showing what the title says it is. Sounds like Dellwood, MO dispatch responding to a request from Furguson for assistance.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
5. Which would be...
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:20 PM
Aug 2014

Which would not be Furgusons dispatch, right? The dispatcher sounds like they are asking permission to send a Dellwood Officer there for support. I'm not sure how the dispatchers operate but it doesn't seem to "destroy" anything coming from Furguson's Police if this is another agency.

Correct?

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
7. Yes, except that they didn't tell St. Louis that is was an officer involved shooting
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:23 PM
Aug 2014

just a crowd control situation. St. Louis heard it was a shooting from the news.

Edited to add: The dispatcher says Ferguson doesn't know anything either.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
8. It seems we are missing a lot
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:27 PM
Aug 2014

I understand what you're saying, it just seems as if we are hearing one side of the Telephone Game. We have no idea what Ferguson requested based on this as it's just another agency going through the request they received.
I would be more curious to hear unaltered streams of Fergusons dispatch

 

Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
4. St Louis County PD and Ferguson PD are two separate entities
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:19 PM
Aug 2014

You're listening to St Louis county. The shooter worked for Ferguson.

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
6. I couldn't find the video quickly
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:21 PM
Aug 2014

I'll post a link to it if I do.

Seemingly well before the body is covered - it looks like it's not long after the shooting to me, two uniforms approach Mike lying in the street. One is an officer. The other is carrying a fairly big box like suitcase and wearing blue rubber gloves. When I first saw him, he looked like either he was EMS or there to collect evidence. But he doesn't collect evidence. He looks Mike over and then it looks like he makes a call on his cell phone. (based upon my memory of the video since I don't have it in front of me)

It's been reported that the EMS that went with Wilson to the call about the baby having trouble breathing just before this incident were the same EMS who came to the Brown shooting scene not long after the shooting.

On page 17 of the police documents:
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/08/15/ferguson-police-report.pdf
12:04 EMS Contacted
On Page 18:
Event Report
12:04:15 Precinct set to '1', Sector set to '4', GEO set to '134.1', Fire set to '', EMS set to ''

I also wonder how much of that would appear on the above audio.



It is the audio from the St Louis County Police - not the Ferguson police

These files compiled in this video contains audio of St. Louis police dispatch from the date of August 9th 2014.
...
9:35: "Ferguson is asking for assistance with crowd control . . ."

10:58: "Now they have a large group gathering there, she doesn't know any further. . ."

11:20: "We just got another call stating it was an officer-involved shooting . . ."



Again, the above has to be verified. Just passing along what I think I saw, some of the evidence of EMS activity in the Ferguson police logs and pointing out the audio is not from the Ferguson Police - it's from the St Louis County Police.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
10. The dispatcher is saying that the officer involved shooting info is "coming from the news".
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:53 PM
Aug 2014

Haven't gotten much farther into it yet, though...

They do say that they called Ferguson to find out about it but that "they (Ferguson) don't know" at about the 12 mark.

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
11. I found a copy
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:08 PM
Aug 2014


At the start of the video of the street scene, police tape is already up and the street blocked off with a few cruisers. It's obviously fairly shortly after the shooting. Brown is lying uncovered in the street.

very early in, audio says "killed for no reason"

0:29 "dead body" and more comments about Mike being dead follow

also other comments about Mike being unarmed and the shooting being senseless

2:55 his uncle (allegedly, "father" on video) tries to check out Mike and police escort him behind the tape

3:15 or so the EMS appears
Walks up to Mike on the road carrying a bag/suitcase
He kneels to check Mike out and checks his pulse.

Then he gets up and walks around to the other side of the body and kneels again to check Mike out.
audio "they say he had his hands up and everything man"

4:24 it looks like the EMS then makes a cell phone call.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. Anonymous is like the tide. You don't know what it's going to bring in.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:14 PM
Aug 2014

It's tiresome to re-hear the idea that a bunch of hacker/slackers know better than everyone else what happens in the real world.

They no more have the full picture than anyone else.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you don't give yourself the same benefit of a doubt you'd give anyone else, you're cheating someone.[/center][/font][hr]

20score

(4,769 posts)
13. They have empathy, a strong sense of right and wrong and critical thinking skills.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 07:18 PM
Aug 2014

Something that is completely lacking in authoritarians and the reactionaries that cover up for them.

We need someone to watch those who abuse power.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
14. However
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 07:22 PM
Aug 2014

Sometimes, as in the erroneous posting of the name of someone who is completely innocent, it can become vigilantism and could wind up getting someone very hurt.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
15. Those vaunted critical thinking skills
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 08:08 PM
Aug 2014

have already named the wrong person as the police officer who shot Michael Brown.

And the people who are certain that the cop murdered Michael Brown without cause and there will be no peace until the officer is arrested, aren't being reactionary?

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