Sun Apr 8, 2012, 06:49 PM
n2doc (26,518 posts)
Tim Tebow tells Texas worshippers: 'It's OK to be outspoken about your faith'
Madeleine Cuff
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 8 April 2012 15.51 EDT 
A crowd of about 15,000 gathered on Sunday in a Texas megachurch to hear NFL player Tim Tebow speak at its outdoor Easter Sunday service. The New York Jets backup quarterback addressed the gathering at the Celebration church in Georgetown, 20 miles north of Austin, at its "Easter on the hill" service. "It's OK to be outspoken about your faith,'' Tebow said. Asked what he thought needed to change culturally in America, he said, to applause: "First and foremost is what this country was based on: one nation under God. The more that we can get back to that ." Tebow's appearance had generated much excitement in the Christian press, but Joe Champion, pastor of the Texan church which organises Easter on the hill, insisted the event was not about celebrity. "There will be the sacredness of Easter," he told local reporters. "It's not a Tim Tebow show. There's really only one celebrity that we are going to honour and highlight." more http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/apr/08/tim-tebow-texas-faith
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 Tim Tebow tells Texas worshippers: 'It's OK to be outspoken about your faith' (Original post) |
n2doc | Apr 2012 | OP |
| peacebird | Apr 2012 | #1 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #2 | |
| anti-alec | Apr 2012 | #17 | |
| PavePusher | Apr 2012 | #24 | |
| n2doc | Apr 2012 | #3 | |
| peacebird | Apr 2012 | #5 | |
| madokie | Apr 2012 | #28 | |
| Justice wanted | Apr 2012 | #52 | |
| rustydog | Apr 2012 | #23 | |
| Initech | Apr 2012 | #62 | |
| RagAss | Apr 2012 | #4 | |
| Becka2515 | Apr 2012 | #53 | |
| RagAss | Apr 2012 | #56 | |
| HangOnKids | Apr 2012 | #57 | |
| Becka2515 | Apr 2012 | #72 | |
| elehhhhna | Apr 2012 | #67 | |
| brewens | Apr 2012 | #6 | |
| Sarah Ibarruri | Apr 2012 | #7 | |
| Raine | Apr 2012 | #8 | |
| pokerfan | Apr 2012 | #71 | |
| HockeyMom | Apr 2012 | #9 | |
| GoneOffShore | Apr 2012 | #10 | |
| lynne | Apr 2012 | #11 | |
| provis99 | Apr 2012 | #43 | |
| emilyg | Apr 2012 | #45 | |
| lynne | Apr 2012 | #55 | |
| emilyg | Apr 2012 | #44 | |
| msongs | Apr 2012 | #12 | |
| JHB | Apr 2012 | #13 | |
| aint_no_life_nowhere | Apr 2012 | #14 | |
| kenny blankenship | Apr 2012 | #15 | |
| anti-alec | Apr 2012 | #16 | |
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| aspieextrodinare | Apr 2012 | #27 | |
| Godhumor | Apr 2012 | #33 | |
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| aspieextrodinare | Apr 2012 | #66 | |
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Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 06:56 PM
peacebird (7,531 posts)
1. "one nation under God" - which god is ok? Any diety? Or only the God who let his kid get offed?
Response to peacebird (Reply #1)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 06:58 PM
malaise (107,053 posts)
2. YOu think this moron has ever read a history book? n/t
Response to peacebird (Reply #1)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 06:58 PM
n2doc (26,518 posts)
3. and the phrase "one nation under god " was added in the 1950's to the POA
Response to n2doc (Reply #3)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:01 PM
peacebird (7,531 posts)
5. I think it was added in 1957, part of the backlash against "godless commies"... And no,
Response to peacebird (Reply #5)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:18 PM
madokie (36,943 posts)
28. He'll never open his eyes
Response to peacebird (Reply #5)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 07:49 AM
52. It was added in 1954. The founding father's didn't want One particular Deity over another
Response to n2doc (Reply #3)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:09 PM
23. It was added as our simplistic threa to the "Godless" communist threat
Makes as much sense and the GOP's "Freedom Fries" talking point |
Response to peacebird (Reply #1)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:56 PM
62. Jesus? Buddha? Krishna? Confuscious? Allah? Muhammad? Zeus? Thor?
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Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:00 PM
4. I see this guy and I see evil, plain and simple.
Response to Becka2515 (Reply #53)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:02 PM
elehhhhna (26,784 posts)
67. please, alright already he's not evil. just a useful idiot
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:04 PM
6. He's set himself up to have to keep the Tebow show going constantly.
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:04 PM
7. Tim Tebow is sooo handsome, but boy is he full of shit
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:06 PM
Raine (20,236 posts)
8. Of course it is, it's just not OK for an atheist to ever speak up
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about having no faith.
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Response to Raine (Reply #8)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:20 PM
71. I guess it's finally safe for Christians to come out of the closet?
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:08 PM
9. Will be interesting to see what he experiences in NY
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:09 PM
GoneOffShore (11,193 posts)
10. Timmy, STFU.
Response to provis99 (Reply #43)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 12:20 AM
emilyg (22,742 posts)
45. No one is stopping you or
Response to provis99 (Reply #43)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 08:53 AM
55. Exactly. You can call him anything you want -
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:12 PM
msongs (30,809 posts)
12. he doesnt know any better - people have kissed his fanny most of his life due to football nt
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:16 PM
JHB (17,904 posts)
13. 'E Pluribus Unum', not 'one nation, (since the 50s) under God'
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:17 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (18,945 posts)
14. Would he have the patience to watch the TV while a televised Hindu worshipping NFL player
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 07:28 PM
LiberalFighter (31,155 posts)
18. Which god?
Response to bongbong (Reply #41)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 12:21 AM
LadyHawkAZ (4,100 posts)
46. If I had a ham-mer, I'd hammer in the mor-nin'
Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #18)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:39 PM
65. There are a lot of Greek and Norse gods that are pretty cool
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 08:54 PM
Ian David (68,663 posts)
20. When Tim Tebow has his male prostitute crystal meth scandal, we are all gonna laugh and laugh. n/t
Response to aspieextrodinare (Reply #21)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:14 PM
25. It's okay for Tim Tebow to be open and outspoken about his faith...
Response to aspieextrodinare (Reply #27)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:55 PM
33. He did his time and continues to do volunteer work
Response to aspieextrodinare (Reply #27)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:35 PM
64. I wasn't talking about Michael Vick. I was talking about Tim Tebag.
Response to aspieextrodinare (Reply #66)
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:25 AM
73. He committed way too many turnovers in 2011, though
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:01 PM
joeybee12 (41,893 posts)
22. Dumber than a box of rocks...nt
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:16 PM
26. I wish there was a thing "inspoken" and this putz would figure out how to be it.
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:19 PM
Nevernose (8,869 posts)
29. This is all a setup
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:20 PM
30. Wonder what Jesus would have to say to Tebow.
Response to Frank Cannon (Reply #30)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:04 PM
aquart (67,682 posts)
58. Yep. We need MATTHEW 6:5-6 tee shirts for the games.
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 09:49 PM
MuseRider (23,267 posts)
32. Well it may be OK
Response to MuseRider (Reply #32)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:43 PM
36. He gave a speech to a bunch of people in a church
Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #36)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:44 PM
MuseRider (23,267 posts)
39. Oooh I guess you got me there.
Response to MuseRider (Reply #39)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 07:24 AM
51. Reporters who should be focused on sports ask him these questions
Response to MuseRider (Reply #32)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 12:37 AM
47. It is ok to be outspoken about faith as long as they're speaking
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:27 PM
rainbow4321 (9,193 posts)
34. According to one article in our TX paper, hundreds of his "Christian" followers got up and LEFT
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:36 PM
35. "what this country was based on: one nation under God."
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So this country was founded in 1954??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance#Addition_of_.22under_God.22 In 1952, Holger Christian Langmack wrote a letter to President Truman suggesting the inclusion of "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. Mr. Langmack was a Danish philosopher and educator who came to the United States in 1911. He was one of the originators of the Prayer Breakfast and a religious leader in Washington, D.C. President Truman met with him along with several others to discuss the inclusion of "under God" and also "love" just before "liberty and justice".(citation needed)... Prior to February 1954, no endeavour to get the Pledge officially amended succeeded. The final successful push came from George MacPherson Docherty. Some American presidents honored Lincoln's birthday by attending services at the church Lincoln attended, New York Avenue Presbyterian Church by sitting in Lincoln's pew on the Sunday nearest February 12. On February 7, 1954, with President Eisenhower sitting in Lincoln's pew, the church's pastor, George MacPherson Docherty, delivered a sermon based on the Gettysburg Address titled "A New Birth of Freedom." He argued that the nation's might lay not in arms but its spirit and higher purpose. He noted that the Pledge's sentiments could be those of any nation, that "there was something missing in the pledge, and that which was missing was the characteristic and definitive factor in the American way of life." He cited Lincoln's words "under God" as defining words that set the United States apart from other nations. President Eisenhower had been baptized a Presbyterian very recently, just a year before. He responded enthusiastically to Docherty in a conversation following the service. Eisenhower acted on his suggestion the next day and on February 8, 1954, Rep. Charles Oakman (R-Mich.), introduced a bill to that effect. Congress passed the necessary legislation and Eisenhower signed the bill into law on Flag Day, June 14, 1954. Eisenhower stated "In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource, in peace or in war." The phrase "under God" was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance June 14, 1954, by a Joint Resolution of Congress amending §7 of the Flag Code enacted in 1942. I thought it was UC that didn't offer American history courses, not Florida. 
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Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 10:44 PM
37. Is it OK to be outspoken about my disbelief of your imaginary friend in the sky? n/t
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:53 PM
aquart (67,682 posts)
42. Matthew 6:5-6, Tim.
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 12:45 AM
JI7 (40,475 posts)
48. i was hoping he would use this occasion to come out of the closet
Response to n2doc (Original post)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 12:57 AM
50. Wow! This guy is cute.
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Pity he's a fucking dumbass.
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Response to n2doc (Original post)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:20 PM
hatrack (33,301 posts)
59. It's also OK to just plain STFU about it
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Response to n2doc (Original post)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:51 PM
60. But he has no problem with working on Sundays.
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Response to n2doc (Original post)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:54 PM
61. Tim Tebow for first preacher in 2044.
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Response to n2doc (Original post)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 06:00 PM
MrScorpio (55,753 posts)
63. Sure, as long as we all get to make our own choices for "God".
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I pick this guy:
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Response to n2doc (Original post)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 10:11 PM
69. As long as it is okay for us to tell you to stop shoving your religion down our throats. n/t
