Brennan must go, the CIA investigated for spying on Senate.

[JackRiddler]

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[JackRiddler]

1. No?

[Octafish]

2. I like Brennan, as a person.

He should get another government job. And CIA should be disbanded and reformulated, along with NSA, FBI and the rest of the secret government. Then, put We the People back in charge. That's how it is supposed to be under the Constitution, anyway.

[JackRiddler]

3. Okay, deal.

Brennan can stay wherever he likes, it's the CIA as a whole that needs to go, that has needed to go since round about... 1947? I can live with that.

But more realistically for the moment... This is not an acceptable line to cross. At least a head must roll.

[Octafish]

4. No one should head CIA.

Job's not fit for man or beast. Ask Johnny Roselli, if we could.

[JackRiddler]

5. Ha, read what I said.

He can keep sitting in the chair, while the CIA is dismantled around him. We can dream can't we?

[Octafish]

7. Should be no dream, JackRiddler. CIA spied on Congress...

...Russell Tice reported NSA spied on Obama since, at least, 2004. Seeing how those at the top of the Secret Government are relatively few, it's likely CIA most likely also spied on the Executive and the Courts. I understand CIA spied on Pentagon and probably State, etc.



So, who's the Boss? Pretty sure it hasn't been the People since Nov. 22, 1963.

[sabrina 1]

8. But wasn't Brennan involved in Bush's torture policies Octafish?

[Octafish]

9. True, sabrina 1. He's been turning people into ghosts via drone.

I think he'd be less dangerous in government service than in the private sector.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6359835

[DirkGently]

6. Can we fire CIA's entire organizational culture too?

[JackRiddler]

10. Carter actually tried.

Hundreds, probably 600-800, were let go from the operations divisions (the covert interventions, the major crimes), in the wake of all the bad image that had been exposed by Church, Pike, etc. in the 1970s. But these operators weren't identified, the history didn't come out, there were no prosecutions, and they had their backers all over politics. So most of them found their spots in the private sector or as mercenaries, kept tight, got behind Bush, and roared back in with Reagan to conduct the new round of excessive criminality in grand fashion under Wild Bill Casey.

The only way to uproot is to also expose, and prosecute, and let the full history be known. And that's only the beginning: the whole system of incentives that drives this culture has to be radically dismantled, which has implications for whole industries.

[hootinholler]

11. You forgot two words

Right after must go, it should read to jail.

Actually I think there should be 2 CIAs so one can keep an eye on the other. It should be an adversarial setup. They should not share intelligence with each other and each should brief the president separately. If one is doing something shady, the Prez better not hear about it from the other group first. It also adds independent confirmation of intel from the field.