Oh Goody... Now There Are People HERE, Who Are Intent On Attacking The Kennedy Kids...

[WillyT]

So I'll post this again:

And, If I May, A Word Or Two About David Kennedy, RFK's Fourth Son...
WiilyT - DU

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025060287

[misterhighwasted]

1. Paying Honor to the Kennedy Kids. However they carry their personal sorrows.

Thank You for Posting WillyT.



The same people who murdered President Kennedy & Senator Robert Kennedy also hate President Obama.
And for the same reasons.

Life was stolen & hearts forever broken.

They are all good kids, forever.

[zappaman]

3. Oswald is dead, so he can't hate Obama.

But I admit I don't know if Sirhan hates Obama.
Does he?

[misterhighwasted]

18. and I continue to believe that neither acted completely alone

They were hated enough to be murdered. JFK RFK & MLK. What was the common thread between the three of them.
That hatred still exists today.
But that's another topic

[Punkingal]

2. It's one thing to criticize RFK Jr. for something he is doing...

It's quite another to constantly call him an "asshat" and to state over and over again that anything he has ever done is worthless now. That is what is pissing me off.

[JI7]

4. are you talking about Robert JR because he is 60 years old

and the criticism is over his position on some issue. not over being a kennedy "kid" .

[NuclearDem]

5. RFK Jr claims thiomersal causes autism.

It doesn't, and such a ridiculous claim has real consequences for public health for what it drives ignorant parents to do.

The person advocating it could be Kennedy, McCarthy, Adams, whatever. If you peddle this nonsense, you're an asshat.

Why anyone thinks we owe RFK Jr any loyalty simply because of Ted, Jack, and Bobby is so far beyond me I can't even comprehend it. Dynasties and royalty are overrated.

[Punkingal]

12. Right on cue, here comes the "asshat" tag.

You people are as coordinated as the RNC.

[NuclearDem]

20. RFK Jr is a big boy. He can handle a name being thrown at him by a mean old internet poster.

[LanternWaste]

14. More accurately, it would make one merely incorrect;

"If you peddle this nonsense, you're an asshat. ..."

More accurately, it would make one merely incorrect; it would however, indicate that those using irrelevant pejoratives are, indeed, asshats themselves. Fedora? Bowler? Who knows... but yet an asshat.

[NuclearDem]

21. Saying the sky is brown is incorrect.

Saying thiomersal causes autism and parents should avoid vaccinating their kids is dangerous.

Anyone saying that deserves every bit of ridicule they get.

[RobertEarl]

31. RFK quote about vaccines

"Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told me that the book he commissioned has a chapter “we were going to leave out, because it’s so controversial, but the evidence is so strong that thimerosal causes autism,” that he’s keeping it in.
Yet in the next breath he said he wasn’t going to publish the book (even though it has a publisher and is going through edits right now) because it is so explosive that he doesn’t want it to prompt a mass panic: “I don’t want parents to stop vaccinating their kids.” (“I’m pro-vaccine,” he insisted several times during the call.)

http://www.cjr.org/the_observatory/robert_kennedy_jr_vaccines_aut.php?page=all

[Hekate]

6. Thanks for the link and reminder. There is some SICK SHIT going on at this site.

It's not enough to disagree with a person on one thing, it seems it's necessary to rip them to pieces for everything else no matter how great, no matter how trivial, like nothing else matters but the observer's pet project.

And not only rip that person to pieces because of that one thing, but his wife his kids his family his ancestors, no matter how much they as individuals and as a family have done for the rest of us.

[zappaman]

8. Being an anti vaxxer is not "trivial".

It puts peoples lives at risk.

[Hekate]

9. I think you can read the entirety of my post and take my meaning. nt

[Spider Jerusalem]

7. Only RFK Jr

because he's a dangerous anti-vaccine crank.

[moriah]

10. While I don't post threads about it, science deniers scare me.

So RFK Jr.'s anti-vaccine statements disturb me.

[Lee-Lee]

11. I forgot we have "royals" in this country and party

What, exactly, are the rules and regulations regarding the royal bloodlines within the party, so I know who I can criticize like anyone else and who I must hold my tongue about?

[wyldwolf]

13. Sorry WillyT

While I haven't piled on, I agree his science denial is ass-hattery.

I deeply respect JFK and his brothers. I've written pieces on them. I've defended them. But the Kennedys are no more immune to criticism than the Clintons, Obamas, etc.

[WillyT]

16. I Hear Ya... And "Criticize" Is The Operative Word Here...

I will attack my enemies, but will disagree with and/or criticize, my friends.

And yeah... I think it was the piling on that got my dander up.

[Nye Bevan]

15. I'll criticize anti-vaccine nutcases no matter which family they are from.

Anti-vaxers have kids' blood on their hands.

[TheSarcastinator]

22. I'll Criticize Anyone I Damn Well Please

Being a member of a family of spoiled political elites means jackshite to me. Patrick Kennedy is an ass and idiot, and RFK has transformed into a shrieking lunatic. I don't give a damn if some internet-posting, hero-worshiping loser whines about insults to his favorite overlords.

[RobertEarl]

28. It is just bad journalism

That has you thinking those bad thoughts. Almost as bad a fox news. No, pretty much the same.

And you carry on the tradition?

[RobertEarl]

17. As you can see, Willy

In this thread are people spreading lies about RFK and his stance on vaccines.

He is not an anti-vaccine person as their lies scream. His kids have been vaccinated. What he is saying is that the mercury that WAS in some vaccines until 1999, BEFORE THEY REMOVED IT, could be causing autism.

There is no definitive report saying that the mercury in vaccines did not cause autism, the studies are ongoing.

You will notice not one of the people spreading the lies about RFK can find one quote of RFK saying he is anti-vaccine. All they have is made up bullshit.

[RobertEarl]

19. Here is an RFK quote about vaccines

This from the page at the link below:

&quot Robert F. Kennedy Jr.) told me that the book he commissioned has a chapter “we were going to leave out, because it’s so controversial, but the evidence is so strong that thimerosal causes autism,” that he’s keeping it in.

Yet in the next breath he said he wasn’t going to publish the book (even though it has a publisher and is going through edits right now) because it is so explosive that he doesn’t want it to prompt a mass panic: “I don’t want parents to stop vaccinating their kids.” (“I’m pro-vaccine,” he insisted several times during the call.)

http://www.cjr.org/the_observatory/robert_kennedy_jr_vaccines_aut.php?page=all


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So, Willy, we can see that what a just a few posters on DU are doing is what we call 'yellow journalism' meaning they are crackpots.

What RFK is doing is questioning the use of the thimerosal in vaccines. And the truth is that the medical community insisted thimerosal be removed from vaccines, and it has been removed from vaccines. RFK is talking facts and some DUers are practicing 'yellow journalism'. Those posters are mere crackpots.

[NuclearDem]

23. And right on cue

[RobertEarl]

25. Look, it's ND.

Remember this gem of yours?

"NuclearDem (8,514 posts)
102. The fuck are you blabbing on about?
First of all, not all mercury is the same."

[L0oniX]

27. LOL

[NuclearDem]

29. And not all mercury compounds are the same.

Do you not think there's a difference between ethylmercury and methylmercury?

And I would be very, very cautious about dragging up old "gems." You have quite the history to pick through.

[RobertEarl]

32. Here is another of your quotes

"" If you peddle this nonsense, you're an asshat. ""

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The fact is that mercury injected into children has been disapproved by the medical community and has been removed from most vaccines since about 1999.

So your yellow journalism has once again been flushed.

[NuclearDem]

33. Are you still insisting RFK Jr got thiomersal removed from vaccines?

[RobertEarl]

34. Of course not

RFK is merely following the medical community's sense of precaution.

Mercury is no longer used in children's vaccines. And RFK thinks he knows why and is following the science as it progresses. You call it asshat but the rest of us call it: Seeking truths.

Some say they know all the facts because they read it on internet crackpot corporate rags, and then to prove how out of touch they are they make such claims as: all mercury is not the same.

[NuclearDem]

35. Thiomersal, based on ethylmercury, is no longer used in the US.

Since the UN and the WHO don't have their collective heads up their asses, they still use it in their vaccines.

Ethylmercury is not the same thing at all as the highly toxic methylmercury that biomagnifies up the food chain. The WHO, FDA, IOM, CDC, AMA, ACMT, and the EMA know this, and they've all found no link between thiomersal and autism. Unless they're all in on the conspiracy too.

Unfortunately, the US has to appeal to the lowest common denominator of stupidity in our country, so we've kept it removed.

[RobertEarl]

36. Nukes are perfectly safe, too

That's what UN et al keep saying also.

There is big money on the line if it is found that thimerosal has caused medical problems. Big money. The lawsuits would run into the billions! In the interest of corporate health, everything corporations do is safe!! Fuck the humans, build more bombs!!

I ain't buying that yellow journalism. Flush it!

[bigwillq]

24. Why should they get immunity from criticism?

They are no better than you and I. If someone wants to criticize them for whatever reason, I say go for it.
It's not the route I would necessarily take, but I am not against that practice.

[sadoldgirl]

26. I may disagree with some of his thinking,

but he has tried a heck of a lot to make people aware of environmental problems. That should be the main issue.

[H2O Man]

30. Recommended.

There are some bitter people on this forum, who seek to inject their sickness into most every discussion on DU:GD. I recommend simply ignoring them. They aren't worth thinking about, much less talking to.