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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:03 PM Jul 2014

GOPer Asks Secessionists To Rise For 'National Anthem,' And Then Sings 'DIXIE' Instead


"..Video has surfaced of a Maryland Republican nominee for Anne Arundel County Council singing "Dixie" as the national anthem at a secession conference in Alabama..."





Video has surfaced of a Maryland Republican nominee for Anne Arundel County Council singing "Dixie" as the national anthem at a secession conference in Alabama. Over the weekend, Grove City College psychology professor and blogger Warren Throckmorton uncovered video of Michael Peroutka speaking to the 2012 League of the South national conference in Wallsboro, Alabama. Peroutka generated controversy after winning the GOP nomination because he believes that the current U.S. and state governments are no longer valid, and should be destroyed by secession or other means.


"You need to secede and then you need to have the biblical understanding of law and government, and make the applications," Peroutka told the League of the South in 2012. "So we need to take the biblical understand of law and government into account no matter what the outcome is with respect to the crumbling of the current regime."

"We're going to have to have this foundational information in the hearts and the minds of the people or else liberty won't survive the secession either," he explained. "I'm saying this because I don't want people from League of the South to think for one minute that I am about reforming the current regime, and studying the Constitution is about reforming the regime. I, like many of you and like Patrick Henry, probably have come to the conclusion that we have smelled a rat from the beginning."



At the conclusion of his nearly hour-long talk, Peroutka asked the audience to rise and sing the "national anthem." But instead of "The Star-Spangled Banner," Peroutka led them to sing "Dixie," the de facto anthem of the Confederacy during the Civil War. The song tells the story from the point of view of a freed slave who wishes to return to the plantation where he was born. Last week, Steve Schuh, the GOP candidate for county executive, called on Peroutka to cut ties with League of the South.





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http://crooksandliars.com/2014/07/goper-asks-secessionists-rise-national
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GOPer Asks Secessionists To Rise For 'National Anthem,' And Then Sings 'DIXIE' Instead (Original Post) Segami Jul 2014 OP
After the Civil War, a lot of Confederates moved down to Brazil derby378 Jul 2014 #1
Gawddamn MrScorpio Jul 2014 #12
with malice toward none, charity for all DonCoquixote Jul 2014 #2
or, at the the very least, finished Reconstruction as President Lincoln intended.. Volaris Jul 2014 #14
That is so messed up. Skidmore Jul 2014 #3
So why is he singing a Northern song? Abraham Lincoln claimed that tune for the Union . . . Journeyman Jul 2014 #4
Apparently there are a lot of nuts like this in MD tularetom Jul 2014 #5
Thats stupid and disgusting. nt ladjf Jul 2014 #6
They are not Secessionists jaysunb Jul 2014 #7
+1 Segami Jul 2014 #8
Dude ran for president on the Constitution party ticket in 2004 IronLionZion Jul 2014 #9
Maryland is a border state WI_DEM Jul 2014 #11
The Union was too charitable to the South after the war... WI_DEM Jul 2014 #10
Gop secessionism isn't just a problem in the South betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #13

derby378

(30,252 posts)
1. After the Civil War, a lot of Confederates moved down to Brazil
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:07 PM
Jul 2014

They tried to continue their antebellum lifestyle at the settlement of Americana, which still exists today but as a town populated maily by Italian immigrants, IIRC. Descendants of the old Confederate families still greet visitors to Americana at times - in full Southern belle regalia.

So what's stopping these people?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
2. with malice toward none, charity for all
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:09 PM
Jul 2014

It seems like that attitude was a mistake. We should have hung Jeff davis and shot Robert E lee.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
14. or, at the the very least, finished Reconstruction as President Lincoln intended..
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 08:10 PM
Jul 2014

As in, in its entirety. The "deal" that ended Lincoln's vision of a restructured, rebuilt, revitalized, re-envisioned, fully integrated and truly forgiven and redeemed South seems mostly to have been the brainchild of the formerly antebellum monied set, who wanted desperately to hold onto what money and power they had left...they knew that if Reconstruction were fully realized as Lincoln had intended, it would have created a kind of political unity between the newly-freed slaves and poor white southerners, and well, "we can't have THAT now, can we..."
It's one of the reasons why the Union movement was such a threat 50 years later, it undermined the socioeconomic principals of Separate but Equal that had been the Jim Crow status quo since the END of reconstruction and the removal of Federal armed forces as an occupation force of the conquered south.
The ONLY useful thing to come out of the end of Reconstruction (as far as I'm concerned) is the Law of Posse Comitatus (the idea that you can't use Federal Forces to EXECUTE DOMESTIC LAW; that the Federal-level Military is for fighting wars against foreign powers). In essence, it sets up the idea of local blue uniform police forces, which is something that didn't much exist in America prior to the Civil War, at least in a good portion of the Rural country...it was a lot of pitchforks and mob justice...
It wasn't so much that Lincoln was wrong that was the problem, it's that the greedy hateful fucks of the old antebellum south figured out just how right he was, and it COULD'NT be allowed to stand.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
4. So why is he singing a Northern song? Abraham Lincoln claimed that tune for the Union . . .
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:17 PM
Jul 2014

and insisted the Federal Army had fairly captured it. Now some moron wants to sing our song and claim it again for a cause rightly, and decidedly, eradicated 150 years ago next April. His ass needs to be whupped into another county.

On 10 April 1865, one day after the surrender of General Robert E. Lee, Lincoln addressed a White House crowd:

I propose now closing up by requesting you play a certain piece of music or a tune. I thought "Dixie" one of the best tunes I ever heard ... I had heard that our adversaries over the way had attempted to appropriate it. I insisted yesterday that we had fairly captured it ... I presented the question to the Attorney-General, and he gave his opinion that it is our lawful prize ... I ask the Band to give us a good turn upon it.

http://democraticthinker.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/abraham-lincoln-i-wish-i-was-in-dixie/

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
5. Apparently there are a lot of nuts like this in MD
Mon Jul 28, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jul 2014

My brother is one of them. The populated areas (City of Baltimore and the counties that ring DC) are overwhelmingly Democratic but the rest of the state might as well be 1930's Alabama.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
11. Maryland is a border state
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 12:04 PM
Jul 2014

that stayed in the Union during the War, but had strong Southern biases. In fact, Lincoln had to sneak into Washington on the way to his inauguration to avoid a possible assassination attempt in Baltimore.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
10. The Union was too charitable to the South after the war...
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 12:02 PM
Jul 2014

Especially when we withdrew federal troops and turned a blind eye on Jim Crow. A lot of the south still see Lee and J. Davis as heroes when they were dirty traitors who couldn't change with the times. They not only wanted to protect slavery in the states that had it but guarantee that it was spread to the territories and other states. It is a disgraceful period in our history.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
13. Gop secessionism isn't just a problem in the South
Tue Jul 29, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jul 2014

Here in Iowa, a formally hardcore Lincoln state, Joni Ernst advocated nullification, the tool the South used to maintain slavery and defy desegregation mandates. Half the Lincoln Douglas debates happened here.

At the Wisconsin Gop convention, the majority endorsed a resolution supporting secession.

I hope there is a ghost of Lincoln, in the White House, and he expands his territory and starts haunting them.

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