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Music Industry Experts Say Ted Nugent's Ongoing Diatribes Damaging Concert Promotion



Ted Nugent's recent spate of offensive and racist comments that have sparked protests and canceled shows are damaging his image and could well cripple his income if he continues, according to veteran concert promoters and industry journalists.

◾Three Nugent concerts scheduled in early August at Native American tribe-owned casinos in Washington and Idaho were canceled this week due to the performer's commentary. Puyallup Tribe Tribal Chairman Bill Sterud has said Nugent is a "jackass" and will never be booked again.

◾Earlier this summer controversy surrounded a concert scheduled for an Oshkosh, WI, music festival after a letter to the editor decrying Nugent's concert received heightened attention. Nugent subsequently described his critics as "unclean vermin."

◾"Picket signs lined the street" outside a July 22 concert in New Jersey as Nugent was greeted by "at least 75 protestors."

◾While Nugent will perform at The Toledo Blade's Northwest Ohio Rib-Off festival next month, the paper's sales director told Media Matters he had received numerous complaints and strongly suggested Nugent would never be booked again.

◾The City of Longview, TX in March canceled Nugent's concert at a Fourth of July festival and paid him $16,000 (reportedly half his fee) not to show up.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07/25/music-industry-experts-say-ted-nugents-ongoing/200209

[brer cat]

1. Couldn't happen to a more deserving a##hole. nt

[usaf-vet]

41. Dead on !!

A…. POS

[CBGLuthier]

2. Ted Nugent made his fortune playing a guitar that was ill-designed for his music.

A Gibson Byrdland which was hollow and designed for jazz and country. He had to stuff it full of foam rubber to stop the feedback.

Why did I mention this? Because in all the years of hearing and listening to this jackass it is the only thing about him I ever found even remotely interesting. His playing was banal. His songwriting the same. Singing? Oh please.

[Populist_Prole]

7. I'm a HUGE fan of hard/heavy rock but was never big on his sound.

Even before I have come to be aware of, and detest his views. I wonder if it's ( partly ) because of the hollow body guitar. I don't mind simple lyrics if the overall sound is good, but it really isn't. Chords, especially power chords seem kinda' thin, and the overall sound is too "jangly" with too many solos. You're right, his vocals are lame too.

At the very best ( and again, separating his music from his views ) I would consider his music basically decent background noise for the mid-late 70's era party. A "soundtrack" more or less.

[Mopar151]

77. First album is OK

Cuz Teddi does'nt sing much on it. Derek St. Holmes had as much to do with the sound as TN, but ted wanted all the spotlight and fired him. been a downhill suck ever since.

[HooptieWagon]

8. Amboy Dukes were mildly interesting in the late 60s...

... although they only had one hit. As a solo artist, Nugent sought the least common denominator, and is every bit as bad as you said. There is no substance to his music, none of my many musician friends have mentioned him as an influence or even someone they listen to. Although his rhetoric might be killing his career, it should have been killed years ago due to suckiness.

[Brother Buzz]

10. Ted should have switched to a Fender

"My hero as I became older was the great Leo Fender because he made one of the first guitars to hold up in a bar fight." - Charlie Deal

But in the bigger scheme of things, perhaps Mr. Poopy Pants should have been playing Charlie Deal's patented toilet seat guitar all along...

http://www.dealguitars.com/memory.html

Yes, that's a real Deal hanging on the wall

[CBGLuthier]

11. I love what Charlie Deal did.

Came across his work back when I was doing my own thing and loved the simplicity and beauty of the idea.

Just for the hell of it, here are a couple of mine


This was the last lapsteel I made. I did not sell it and it is in my bedroom.




This is one of the 400 Cigar Box guitars I made. Sold it years ago but I still got one for myself.

[Brother Buzz]

15. That cigar box resonates with me

Fun infusion of old and new ideas.

Here's a creation by a friend of mine, and fellow luthier (think National steel mandolin on steroids) :



http://keithcary.com/Keith%20Cary/Commodium.html

[CBGLuthier]

31. Great use of a bedpan

Nice looking and very loud too.

[Hubert Flottz]

39. An awesome looking ax...

I bought a cigar box guitar from this guy, who I found on Reverb.com and I'm real happy with it. Sounds like a Tele, plays great and weighs hardly nothing.

Carl's Custom Guitars:

[Brother Buzz]

46. I'll assume your post was directed toward CBGLuthier but I'll reiterate what Charlie Deal said:

"I believe that you can play a guitar made out of most anything if you set the harmonics right and place the bridge in the right place." - Charlie Deal

http://vimeo.com/15465016

[KittyWampus]

18. Thanks for making a thread about Nugent interesting and creative.

Which'd be the last thing one would expect in a thread about him.

Your guitars are beautiful.

[CBGLuthier]

29. Thank you

I may be getting the urge to dabble again.

[panader0]

26. Very cool.

Can you fix my 1939 Martin 0017?

[CBGLuthier]

28. Oh no, I am far too unskilled to touch that

But i do know people who can.

[awoke_in_2003]

50. Ah, I was wondering the other day...

what the "CBG" in your name was for.

[pinboy3niner]

52. Nice catch!

[CBGLuthier]

53. I used to have another name but had to change it in 2008

and at the time it seemed a good name.

I used to be

notmypresident


See why I had to change.

[awoke_in_2003]

54. Ah, yes...

I remember when DUers were allowed to change due to many having names that didn't fit once Bush left office on the greatest helicopter ascent I ever witnessed I, for some reason, remember your original- I generally don't remember a lot of names, being visual I tend to remember avatars

[YoungDemCA]

19. Not to mention how fucking disgusting a human being he is

But I repeat myself.

[Ken Burch]

57. Yeah...we all sort of got that about Ted with the "i shit myself to get out of the Army" thing.

What did Nugent's fatigues ever do to deserve THAT?

[frylock]

33. i admit to liking nugent..

when I was in junior high. I did go to one of his shows some 30 years ago, but that was only because Michael Schenker was opening.

[zappaman]

38. Nugent can't hold a candle to Schenker!

Truth!

[awoke_in_2003]

51. What are you opinions on Gretsch?

I have always dug the sound of those.

[Gothmog]

3. Nugent will also be an issue the Texas Governor's race

Abbott used Nugent as a spokesperson on gun issues and campaigned with Nugent

[onehandle]

4. His career as a racist gun nut hate monger is doing well. nt

[Blue Owl]

5. If his career were a pair of pants...

They'd be filled with his own filth.

[get the red out]

6. Make - bed - lie

And a bad mattress it is.

[fredamae]

9. Dammit! He's still Booked

Aug 5th at Portland (Oregon) Expo Ctr! What is Wrong with them? They're "publicly owned". Maybe they haven't heard from the Public?

[Ken Burch]

58. Good excuse for a rally, Portland!

You Rose City folks know what to do.

[calimary]

12. And I'm utterly bereft at this news because...

FUCK. Because FUCK.

Couldn't happen to a "nicer" shit-smear!!!! There was a thread elsewhere here "lamenting" how hypocritical Michael Moore is because his work has made him rich. Aw boo-boo. That entire idea utterly DELIGHTS me! Because he is working for the good, and for the truth. I WANT Michael Moore and others like him, carrying OUR message, to get rich. I WANT them to thrive and have their families be comfortable and well-taken-care-of, and their work to continue and spread and reach farther and enlighten and educate more people. I WANT him to do well, so he can keep it up, for the sake of ALL of us!

And the flip side - the very idea that ted nugent would start taking it in the shorts (so to speak!!!!) for his nauseating, disgusting, despicable public comments and actions - is EXQUISITELY DELIGHTFUL!!!! It tells me there actually may be some justice in the world. Especially the part about the public's reaction to his shit-spew that is starting to turn off concert bookers and handlers and promoters. Let the almighty much-worshipped "free market" gods silence him then. I WANT him hobbled and disabled and losing ground and losing money and losing audiences and further exposure and vehicles from which to spew. Ironically that'll be ONE time when the "free market" actually works for the greater good.

Another chapter in the endless wrong-wingers "bible" - "Thou crawlest into bed with him. Now he gets to fuck thee."

[nolabear]

23. Preach, Girl!

I agree on all points. Hating the success of a person who works for good makes no sense whatsoever to me. Having one's asshattery ruin a career might just give future potential ones a clue.

[Lordquinton]

40. Russel Brand said something about his issue

"Some people say I'm a hypocrite because I've got money now. When I was poor and I complained about inequality people said I was bitter, now I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want inequality on the agenda because it is a real problem that needs to be addressed."

[MineralMan]

13. Good. Before long, the only place he'll be

able to get a booking will be shit-kicker redneck bars where he has to play behind chicken wire to protect him from beer bottles.

Filthy asshole, he is.

[frylock]

34. Puppet Show and Ted Nugent

[MineralMan]

36. Local Garage Cover Band Concert Tonight! 9 PM!

Opening act: Ted Nugent.

[frylock]

43. bring a lawn chair

[A Simple Game]

49. And a bag of rotten tomatoes. n/t

[GP6971]

66. Ah......Road House with Patrick Swayze (sp)

[ms liberty]

14. What career? He's been washed up for a generation now. n/t

[Curmudgeoness]

22. Just one generation?

I don't think that he made it out of the 1970's.

[Mike Daniels]

37. Damn Yankees make him semi-relevant again (musically) for about 2 years in the 80's

That was probably the last time he was regularly playing at concert venues that had more than a few thousand seats.

[arcane1]

16. When your best gig is a Rib-Off festival, and you can't play those, you're toast

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(edited due to additional perspective)

[WinkyDink]

60. You might re-think the casino slam.

[arcane1]

67. I admit, my only casino experience is Atlantic City in the 90's

They all had house bands there that played top 40 cover tunes. That's what came to mind when I read this article.

(Not that there is anything wrong with that either- I was in a cover-playing house band in the 80's)

I wasn't aware that name-brand acts played casino gigs

[WinkyDink]

73. Here's the current line-up for CT's Mohegan Sun, e.g.:

http://www.eventticketscenter.com/Event.aspx?EventID=1806&ppcsrc=OTR&gclid=CJmG7dD74b8CFUVo7AodkW8Afg

Casinos now are part of major acts' itineraries (as another example, Queen and Adam Lambert just played the IZOD Center and MSG, but have also included casino stops).

[arcane1]

74. Wow! I had no idea how outdated and lopsided were my impressions of what is happening at casinos.

Thank you for making me aware of this! Hell, I may even have friends doing these gigs. Edit Mode = Enabled!

[gratuitous]

17. He'll still make a good living

Not, perhaps, by what he steals out of blind men's cups (h/t Pete Seeger), but by making the rounds on the Professional Victims of Political Correctness circuit.

[pinboy3niner]

20. He can always fall back on being the spokesman for...

[RadicalGeek]

76. He, Zimmerman, Dunn, Bundy (Clive), etc

Can always do the "Gun Show Circuit".
The "Trailer park Trolls" see him as a hero, and perhaps now a marytr.

[rocktivity]

21. He won't have to fill out any unemployment forms anytime soon

He's pulling in some coin from the cancellation fees -- all he has to do is book a gig, wait for his past to catch up with him, and threaten to show up if they don't pay up, LOL!

rocktivity

[nolabear]

24. Only for a while. When he becomes poison, he's gone

[Warpy]

55. He'll either do rehab or a spectacular flameout

as paranoia and grandiosity compete inside his head and no longer compute.

[nolabear]

63. I'll take Door #2, Bob.

He doesn't seem the rehab type. Some people you figure might be troubled and could be better people without drugs, but I think he's a narcissistic asshole whose delusions of grandeur make him think everyone is against him the way they were against Jesus.

In this day and age most celebs (and he does have a TV show, however small and creepy) have agents and lawyers and publicists who speak on their behalf when they say stupid stuff. You never see that with him. Either he thinks he's too precious to let them or they won't touch him with a ten foot pole.

[Warpy]

64. Sadly, I agree with much of that

and he's likely to stay at the bottom of the rabbit hole and digging ever deeper even when all his flacks and sycophants have deserted him once his money's gone.

Or he'll flame out as I described.

[nolabear]

65. I hope not. That could have collateral damage.

Quick disappearance through being ignored would be my preferred outcome.

[tom_kelly]

25. Hell

he could play garages in TX until he dies.

[pokerfan]

27. Is Ted Nugent still a darling of the Republican party?

The most succinct thing I've read on the topic...

I knew Ted Nugent was a nasty piece of work, but this…can he possibly be a bit more blatantly racist? He’s had a couple of shows cancelled at Indian casinos — first by the Coeur d’Alene tribe in Idaho, and most recently by the Puyallups in Washington — and I guess it made Nugent a mite testy.

“The Coeur d’Alene Tribe has always been about human rights — for decades, we have worked individually and as a Tribe to make sure that each and every person is treated equally and with respect and dignity,” said a statement from the tribe.

A spokesperson for the casino said that the company didn’t want to provide a platform for the “racist attitudes and views that Ted Nugent espouses.” Nugent responded to the cancelation by calling the Coeur d’Alene Tribe "unclean vermin."

"By all indicators, I don’t think they actually qualify as people, but there has always been a lunatic fringe of hateful, rotten, dishonest people that hate happy, successful people," he continued. "I believe raising hell and demanding accountability from our elected employees is Job One for every American. I am simply doing my job."

Brilliant: fired for racist remarks, so he calls the whole tribe “vermin” and questioning their status as humans, perfectly confirming the accusation.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2014/07/24/is-ted-nugent-still-a-darling-of-the-republican-party/

[thesquanderer]

32. The venues should replace him with the Dixie Chicks (n/t)

[BobbyBoring]

35. I saw a Ted Nugent president bumper sticker

On the back of a "Vintage" pick up yesterday.
Of course, it was next to the NRA sticker and a bunch of other inane shit.

[world wide wally]

42. Actually, his career was pretty much over after his hit with the Amboy Dukes.

"Journey to the center of the mind" apparently didn't include his.

[randome]

44. It won't be long before he's wandering the streets at night, shouting...

"Stop raping people!" to everyone around him.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Aspire to inspire.[/center][/font][hr]

[pinboy3niner]

47. Behave yourself!

[jmowreader]

45. I predict Nugent will "retire" from music before the next presidential election

It's not just because by that time he'll be reduced to playing bars.

No, Ted will buy an old warehouse in Waco, where he lives, and convert it into the distribution center for Ted Nugent's Call of the Wild, The World's Biggest Archery Stores! Go to YouTube and look for Ted Nugent archery videos. Nugent knows his shit about bowhunting. He loves guns but guns are federally regulated and bows are not, and as much as he despises the government it's not likely he'd open a store that will bring the BATF in on a regular basis.

[awoke_in_2003]

48. If I had god powers...

I would make someone that followed Nugent around everywhere and said "Jackass" all the time- just like in Happy Gilmore.

[MFM008]

56. his career as an ass

will continue unabated.

[WinkyDink]

59. Money is not only talking; it's walking.

[Uncle Joe]

61. "Unchecked hatred will consume itself." 01:01 Book of Uncle Joe.

Thanks for the thread, Archae.

[ileus]

62. did he have a career? He had what one good song?

[csziggy]

68. Where's my tiny violin image?

Here, this will do:

[spanone]

69. what career?

[Jefferson23]

70. ha ha I needed a laugh today, thank you. n/t

[JEFF9K]

71. His only hit was "Ass Scratch Fever."

What career is there to destroy?

[WinkyDink]

72. WTH cares? No, I mean, really? He's an old and ugly bigot gun-nut.

[Dirty Socialist]

75. I'll Try That

"I'm a sucky guitar player and I say the most offensive things. Pay me $16,000 not to show up."

[rppper]

78. I grew up in Longview.....

For a while I was actually kind of proud of my hometown for canceling his show, then there was that town hall meeting this week....meh....guess I'll stick around central Florida for a bit longer, because the crazy is apparently still pretty strong back home...not that central Florida is a treasure trove of sanity, but I do have a beach....

[Warren Stupidity]

79. Toxoplasmosis can infect your brain and

turn you into a lunatic pederast pants shitting rightwing asshole. Please help us find a cure.

[elehhhhna]

80. what career?!!! lolololo

he had one 30 years ago. that one? lol