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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe NFL suspends Ray Rice for 2 games... for punching his wife in the face, knocking her unconscious
and dragging her through a casino.
2 fucking games. They would have punished him far more harshly for smoking weed.
Rice, 27, was accused of striking his then-fiancee unconscious and ultimately was charged with felony aggravated assault. He was accepted into a pretrial intervention program that allowed him to avoid jail time and could lead to the charge being eliminated from his record.
Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ray-rice-suspended-for-two-games-20140724,0,1145794.story#ixzz38OwyZcnP
That is fucked up.
Throd
(7,208 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Response to PeaceNikki (Reply #2)
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PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)William769
(55,144 posts)NFL does not a very good track record this year.
big tough guy who hits women. some blind helmet-to-helmet strikes would do him good
jmowreader
(50,552 posts)A little bit of Kam Chancellor Love would do him good...
(The Super Bowl ended at this exact second. Kam Chancellor took away the Broncos' will to live.)
d_b
(7,463 posts)Like the Broncos had no business being in there. The NFC Championship was the real Super Bowl.
underpants
(182,736 posts)No let's not.
2 games is not enough
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)The shithead.
underpants
(182,736 posts)Really I just don't care for Peyton and Dungy was, obviously, tied to him. THEN there was the speech Tony did to a homophobe group in Indiana and that was enough for me. His self righteous radio spots are just more reason.
I had a RW "Christian" coworker who was shocked that someone didn't like Dungy. I didn't want get into it with him so I just said," nope don't like him much"
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)The two of them together was more than enough for me to root for Da Bears in the Super Bowl, although you kinds knew from the beginning who was going to win.
Initech
(100,060 posts)Orrex
(63,199 posts)jmowreader
(50,552 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)It may have to wait until he finishes his intervention program and the case is closed. I wish somebody would slip a copy out.
He will hit her again. We may not hear about it, but this has to fester.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)dsc
(52,155 posts)for example jail. But I do wonder would a normal person get fired for this assuming they got no jail time?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)And gets paid millions.
dsc
(52,155 posts)the millions, not so much. I am quite sure a high ranking but fairly anonymous executive making millions would not be fired. Again, this guy deserved jail, not some sort of suspended sentence. I also think if he were my employee I would do what I could to make sure he wasn't my employee after this. I just wondered about private employees.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)..... when their name gets attached to disgusting behavior.
Off the top of my head, their was a couple recent airplane incidents that ended in the dismissal of employees. There was a guy that hit a kid and another one where the guy pissed in the aisle.
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)I hope she's getting the help she needs somehow; and I hope the pretrial intervention program has helped him. Otherwise I expect we'll be hearing more about Rice in the news.
shanti
(21,675 posts)i can't imagine staying with someone who knocked me unconscious....no matter how much money they had.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)going to work.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Oh, wait a minute...
msongs
(67,394 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)...I wonder if they offered any help to his wife. Or maybe they don't think she counts.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]
n2doc
(47,953 posts)But 2 games for beating up a woman. What a league.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Domestic violence is terrible, but it is the governments job to punish its citizens.
That's all we need is employers being able to decide what is and what is not acceptable behavior. I know the NFL does a little of this, punishing players for whatever makes the news they don't like, but in general, this is a bad thing IMO.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)He's a public figure and a role model.
And I don't care who you are, if you punch a woman out cold and drag her unconscious through a casino, if you get fired because of it. Good.
Yavin4
(35,432 posts)their employees to the public as "heroes".
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)He wasn't speeding on a city street.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)Then they can punish you for anything else they want to.
I wasn't trying to diminish what he did, say it wasn't bad, or anything else. Domestic abusers should be punished to the full extent of the law.
And yes, I know the nfl has a morality clause.
All I question is the ability of a private entity to exact punishment for crimes or other "infractions" of whatever policy they observe.
There's already little enough oversight on cops and courts, now we want to turn employers loose and enforcing their own brand of the law?
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)It's not like we want employers to put punitive actions up for a public vote. But I agree the NFL should do more, especially since they promote these guys as 'heroes'.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)But thanks for the patronizing reply.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)nt
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)He kept getting second chances and third chances and fourth, fifth and sixth chances.
He is currently serving a 30 year prison sentence.
Yavin4
(35,432 posts)But, if you're Gay, then you're too much of a distraction and no team will want you.
Yaaaahhh NFL!!!
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Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)dilby
(2,273 posts)You might not like that the NFL only gave a two week suspension but there is not an Employer out there that would do the same. Maybe law enforcement but that is pretty much it.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Seriously? He has a *morality* clause. He's not a fucking accountant at H&R Block. He's a public figure and a role model.
And I don't care who you are, if you punch a woman out cold and drag her unconscious through a casino, if you get fired because of it. Good.
backwoodsbob
(6,001 posts)First let me say I think the guy is scum and in no way am I excusing him
That said:
There were multiple witnesses at the casino that say she was intoxicated and assaulted him in the casino...punches and all.
He claims she assaulted him again in the elevator and he hit her in self defense(not excusing this...like she was really hurting him...yeah right)
She refused to testify against him.
It's not as cut and dry as people are making it appear
Yavin4
(35,432 posts)then I would assume that my employer would fire someone convicted of spousal abuse, esp. when the abuse is caught on camera.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Did she marry him after he punched her in the face and knocked her unconscious?
So nice to see the NFL keeping abusive a-holes employed. Guess it's more profitable and since that's all we worship in this country....
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)And he can go fuck himself, cause he's a wife-beating asswipe.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Initech
(100,060 posts)How about the quarterback who was brought up on attempted rape charges?
Or the quarterback who killed dogs for sport?
Or the running back who was brought up for literally shooting himself in the foot?
Or now Ray Rice?
You know NFL material.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)From the judicial system.
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)There is a video (it's on TMZ) where it shows him dragging her out of the elevator. Nothing happened to him legally. I think it was partly due to her - she didn't want to press charges. Then she married him a few weeks later. I don't understand her at all.
Dr. Strange
(25,919 posts)Who cares what the NFL does or doesn't do? If he committed an act of violence, I'm more concerned with the government's response.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)the NFL did at this point. And I know how harshly they punish players for smoking weed in comparison. And that pisses me off.
His felony case is still pending. He's been charged and is an intervention program, I know nothing of the details.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)The victim married him the day after he was indicted!
Legal experts say the marriage complicated any real attempt for prosecutors to push the case forward.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)witness in order to prosecute.
San Francisco will arrest and prosecute if there is evidence of violence even if the victim is unwilling to testify.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)They had the victim there. She basically took the blame, and he came off as the victim.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)to miss the whole season....
tabasco
(22,974 posts)or he'd be in REAL trouble.