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MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 01:46 PM Jul 2014

Coloring the Truth, but Staying within the Lines.

I'm seeing a lot of this lately in the media and elsewhere. People using dodgy words and phrases to disguise the fact that they're really lying or spreading untruths. "A high-placed source known to us says..." "Many say..." Things like that are often used to present a lie while providing some sort of fudge factor to let the person telling the tale slide out from responsibility for that lie. "Well, that's what my source said...I'm just reporting what my source said..."

No named source? No information that can be confirmed? It's probably a lie, in that case, or a speculation, at best. We should avoid putting our trust in people who color the truth while staying within the lines of plausible denial.

The Ukrainian conflict is rife with this stuff, as whoever is actually responsible for shooting down that plane scrambles to avoid blame and enlists the aid of various media to help them skate.

We should all be watchful for this kind of fudging in stories about Ukraine and in all sorts of media reports about disputed facts. We're smarter than that, I think, if we just read closely.

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Coloring the Truth, but Staying within the Lines. (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2014 OP
Well Said, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #1
Indeed. We should be careful when bringing stories to DU MineralMan Jul 2014 #2
I wish there were more fact-checking regarding sources here at DU. nt Hekate Jul 2014 #3
That's up to the individual poster, of course. MineralMan Jul 2014 #5
Yes, and when posting a story as fact, please provide a credible link. Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #4
People sometimes forget to include a link. MineralMan Jul 2014 #6

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
1. Well Said, Sir
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 01:48 PM
Jul 2014

Several people who once had a name as serious journalists have forsaken that, and turned themselves into third-rate op-ed columnists instead....

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
2. Indeed. We should be careful when bringing stories to DU
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 01:50 PM
Jul 2014

and check to make sure they are accurate and free of creative truth-coloring.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
5. That's up to the individual poster, of course.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jul 2014

I find myself devaluing the opinions of DUers who post material from unreliable sources that use tactics to color their stories while spreading untruths. A few instances, and that poster no longer seems trustworthy to me, so I know that I have to take the time to check their posts against a range of reliable sources. I rarely have time to do that, so poster who frequently post material from poor sources just get much attention from me.

Arkansas Granny

(31,512 posts)
4. Yes, and when posting a story as fact, please provide a credible link.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jul 2014

I don't understand people who post a sensational story, but don't provide a link so you can verify the source. I've even seen some get defensive when a link is requested.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
6. People sometimes forget to include a link.
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 01:59 PM
Jul 2014

I know I've done that by accident, but I always supply one if anyone notices. I suppose someone might get defensive if they knew that the link was to an unreliable source, though.

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