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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:57 PM

You'll Never Guess Who Called Out The GOP On Its War On Women

When its own elected officials know that the party’s on the wrong track, maybe it’s time for them to just stop the train.


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Reply You'll Never Guess Who Called Out The GOP On Its War On Women (Original post)
Playinghardball Apr 2012 OP
HockeyMom Apr 2012 #1
roguevalley Apr 2012 #38
KamaAina Apr 2012 #2
gratuitous Apr 2012 #3
provis99 Apr 2012 #6
abbeyco Apr 2012 #13
barbtries Apr 2012 #8
Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #18
rurallib Apr 2012 #25
KamaAina Apr 2012 #35
roguevalley Apr 2012 #39
peace frog Apr 2012 #30
annabanana Apr 2012 #4
asjr Apr 2012 #5
immoderate Apr 2012 #7
retread Apr 2012 #15
spooky3 Apr 2012 #21
uponit7771 Apr 2012 #9
Whisp Apr 2012 #10
Auntie Bush Apr 2012 #16
seabeyond Apr 2012 #11
Blue_In_AK Apr 2012 #12
Auntie Bush Apr 2012 #17
Blue_In_AK Apr 2012 #22
roguevalley Apr 2012 #40
Tx4obama Apr 2012 #26
roguevalley Apr 2012 #41
southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #14
Cleita Apr 2012 #19
Arctic Dave Apr 2012 #20
Blue_In_AK Apr 2012 #23
jtuck004 Apr 2012 #24
Arctic Dave Apr 2012 #29
rurallib Apr 2012 #27
Tx4obama Apr 2012 #28
Blue_In_AK Apr 2012 #31
Arctic Dave Apr 2012 #32
Tx4obama Apr 2012 #33
Arctic Dave Apr 2012 #36
Tx4obama Apr 2012 #37
Blue_In_AK Apr 2012 #44
Tx4obama Apr 2012 #45
Blue_In_AK Apr 2012 #46
Tx4obama Apr 2012 #47
roguevalley Apr 2012 #43
AlinPA Apr 2012 #54
roguevalley Apr 2012 #42
Tx4obama Apr 2012 #34
MADem Apr 2012 #48
Tx4obama Apr 2012 #49
malaise Apr 2012 #50
Blue_In_AK Apr 2012 #51
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2012 #52
AlinPA Apr 2012 #53

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:00 PM

1. Hopefully, she will "Stand her Ground"

and not follow like a good little woman when all her Repubke men marching in step to take away women's rights, and lives.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:50 PM

38. Please, understand. She doesn't mean it. She took a butt kicking from us and she is trying

to save her career. Please. Understand that.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:01 PM

2. You'll Never Guess Who Voted For The Blunt Amendment

She talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:02 PM

3. But she says she's really, really, really sorry about it

Please to be having my cake and eating it, too?

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:11 PM

6. she's sorry about it...

 

until the next time she votes for similar republican legislation.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:31 PM

13. She's sorry alright

and pretty pathetic Senator, too!

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:18 PM

8. she can't be trusted.

she's a republican regardless of this.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:09 PM

18. Why is she such a wimp? Money? She's selling women out for money? nt

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:23 PM

25. every republican but Snowe

Ms. Murkowski.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:24 PM

35. And Sen. Snowe just gave them quite a tongue-lashing on her way out.

To hell with them.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #35)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:55 PM

39. I would care about that if snowe hadn't been a perfect tool her entire career

like Murkowski

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:37 PM

30. Clear cut case of CYA

She has to burnish her cred with the female voters back home now, but she'll vote against their best interests again when the time comes.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:02 PM

4. Reince Prebus CAN'T go discuss it with his wife & daughters...

He's pod hatched off some lonely plain. . .

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Response to annabanana (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:04 PM

5. And in his next life he will be a dung beetle.

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Response to asjr (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:17 PM

7. The happiest animal on earth.

Unless shit goes out of style.


--imm

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Response to asjr (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:48 PM

15. He is a dung beetle in this life.

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Response to retread (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:44 PM

21. How do I nominate this post for a DUzy?

LOL!

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:21 PM

9. reThug replie: "...I DID talk to my wife and told her that she doesn't think it's a war on women.."

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:24 PM

10. maybe he should ask his mistress to stop using birth control.

 

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:53 PM

16. Was that quote a typo or a joke?

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:24 PM

11. the man that needs to control his woman cause of his insecurities knows it is

wrong yet he continues until he looses her..... and still tries with all his might.

even with their own women telling them otherwise, these men will continue on. and yea... lets see what they really look like.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:31 PM

12. I would love to believe that Lisa has actually had a change of heart,

but when you look up Lucy and the Football in the dictionary, there's Lisa Murkowski staring back at you.

Too little, too late, Lisa.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:55 PM

17. Lisa has been on our side before

But I forgot when...but I was glad when she beat her Rethug competition.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:48 PM

22. Her Democratic competition would have been ever so much better,

and he could have beaten Joe Miller if Lisa hadn't run her write-in campaign. Just sayin'.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:56 PM

40. +10,000

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:24 PM

26. Murkowski voted with the Senate dems to defeat the defunding of Planned Parenthood, AND ...


she has actually voted with the dems several other times since her re-election in 2010.
I can't remember all the other times off the top of my head.

Murkowski, Collins, Snowe, and Brown cross the aisle the most to vote with the dems compared to the other GOPers.

The DU Planned Parenthood vote THREAD here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=892978&mesg_id=893511

Oh, and ...
Murkowski did not filibuster Goodwin Liu's judicial nomination
Here's a link to the DU Liu conformation thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4856580&mesg_id=4856650
<SNIP> ... One Republican, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), crossed party lines to oppose the filibuster. <SNIP>


There are more examples of her crossing the aisle but I don't know where they all are right now.

p.s. I am NOT saying that anyone should vote for her, I'm just pointing out that she is not as bad as some of the other republicans.


Edited to add:


Excerpt from old article regarding Lilly Ledbetter

Yesterday's bill passed the Senate 61-36, enough to stop another threatened filibuster. Without the support of Republicans Susan Collins (R-ME), Olympia Snowe (R-ME), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX) it would have fallen short.

http://jinchi.blogspot.com/2009/01/republican-women-and-lilly-ledbetter.html


AND

Hate crimes bill
Murkowski was one of five Republican senators who voted with Democrats for the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Murkowski#Hate_crimes_bill



AND

Don't ask don't tell
Murkowski supported the repeal of Don't ask, don't tell after careful consideration of the Department of Defense report. "Our military leaders have made a compelling case that they can successfully implement a repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell,' " she said. "It is infinitely preferable for Congress to repeal the law, and allow the service chiefs to develop and execute a new policy, than to invite a court-ordered reversal of the law with no allowance for a military-directed implementation. I've heard from Alaskans across the state who believe it's time to end this discriminatory policy, and I agree with them." On December 18, 2010, Murkowski voted in favor of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Murkowski#Don.27t_ask_don.27t_tell




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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:57 PM

41. Lisa didn't forgive the estab. pugs because they didn't support her in the election

she had to write in to win. She evens scores. She believes in nothing but her own ass. She is on CREW's 20 most corrupt politicians list and has been forever.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:44 PM

14. These republican women should be ashamed of themselves. They went the party line root

 

and let all women down. They don't care about anyone but their leaders. Now she is speaking up but its to late she already abandon women. I hope they don't forget during the election.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:25 PM

19. I heard. Maybe other Republican women will follow in her in dissent. n/t

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:40 PM

20. Horseshit!

 

LM has consistantly voted against women's rights.

My wife confronted her about voting against the Lily Ledbeder Act.

Don't be fooled by her "poor me" bullshit.

What the fuck is the deal on DU today with trying to suck up to her sorry ass?

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:49 PM

23. I hear ya, Dave.

They just don't want to listen to those of us who actually pay attention to Lisa's votes.

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:23 PM

24. So you don't think having to run against her own party and Joe Miller may have


infused her with a little wisdom?

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #24)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:37 PM

29. Not in the least.

 

They brought right back in the fold because they need all the votes they can muster.

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:25 PM

27. when someone as anti-women's rights as Murkowski has a problem

with the repub party, they have really deep ended.
Oh, what a great ad that will be.

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:27 PM

28. Not completely true - She voted against defunding PP & has voted with the dems many times



since she won her re-election in 2010

See comment #26.


p.s. Yes, she did screw up voting 'for' the Blunt amendment - but I do think she 'sincerely' regrets that vote.


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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:38 PM

31. I think she and Mark Begich may have a little quid pro quo going on.

She votes with the Democrats about as often as Mark votes with the Republicans, e.g., his vote last week against ending oil subsidies. They're both trying really hard to be moderate, I guess, but I still think Alaska would have been much better off with Scott McAdams who holds fast to his core Democratic values.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:46 PM

32. Her vote was more for the Title X then a vote for women.

 

It was a thank you to the native corporations that funded her campaign against Miller.

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #32)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:53 PM

33. See comment #26


She also voted to pass the Lilly Ledbetter bill.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #33)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:36 PM

36. See my other post. She did not.

 

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #36)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:44 PM

37. Yes she did.


Here is the Roll Call: Murkowski voted 'yea'.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00014


And here:

In what could be the first piece of legislation that President Barack Obama will sign, the Senate passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 (S. 181) last night by a strong majority (61 - 36) after defeating a series of hostile Republican amendments. The Senate floor debate for the Act was led by Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Dean of the women Senators, for Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee Chair Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) after Majority Leader Senator Reid (D-NV) navigated the bill to the floor.

Only one male Republican, Senator Arlen Specter from Pennsylvania voted for Ledbetter, despite the fact that all four female Republican Senators voted in favor: Susan Collins (R-ME) Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), Olympia Snowe (R-ME) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK).

http://news.change.org/stories/putting-fairness-first-obama-to-sign-fair-pay-acts-into-law




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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #37)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:35 AM

44. She voted for Lilly Ledbetter apparently,

but was too cowardly to show up for the Paycheck Fairness Act. I'm not sure what the difference is in these two bills, but that may be where the confusion is. Lisa always tries to have it both ways.


Please see: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/11/17/130872/paycheck-fairness-act-fail/

Not a single Republican supported the bill, including Sens. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) and Susan Collins (R-ME), who had previously voted in favor of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which removed barriers blocking workers from seeking compensation from discriminatory pay practices. At the time, Snowe said, “This new law[] sends a clear message to the American people that this Congress is committed to these core principles and will continue to work in bipartisan fashion to break down the barriers of wage discrimination in our nation.”

Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE), who also voted for the Lilly Ledbetter Act, was the lone Democrat voting against the bill today. Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) was not present for the vote.




I don't quite understand why you're so quick to jump to Lisa Murkowski's defense contrary to the opinions of three of us who actually have been following her career since she was a state representative in Alaska. I would imagine that we know a bit more about her history and shady dealings.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #44)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:42 AM

45. I am not defending Murkowski, I am just trying to have the FACTS stated correctly n/t


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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #45)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:47 AM

46. As for facts, if she had wanted to really stand up for women,

she would have been present for that Fair Pay Act and bucked her Republican colleagues.

I'm not saying that Lisa doesn't occasionally make a good vote, but looking at her overall record, it's clear that she always operates from a position of self-interest. Do a little research into her cozy relationship with the Alaska Native Corporations. Claire McCaskill has been on her ass incessantly about those deals.

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #46)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:57 AM

47. Like I said I am not defending her, BUT ...


after watching the Mikulski/Murkowski/Snowe/Gillibrand video below, to me it seems like Murkowski is being sincere when she says she regrets her Blunt vote.

Here: http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/16/politics/mikulski-history/index.html

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:59 PM

43. she regrets my phone call and hundreds of others. that's all she regrets. she votes as

she believes. They are deeply catholic.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 05:32 PM

54. She screwed up? It was more than a screw-up. She had to think about her vote. It's pathetic.

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:58 PM

42. I don't know. they don't know her. It makes me actually sick to see it.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 10:37 PM

34. More DETAILS


Murkowski Becomes Third Republican Senator To Criticize GOP’s War On Women

The men in the Republican Party may not think they’re fighting a “war on women,” but its female senators certainly do. Yesterday, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) joined Sens. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) and Kay Bailey Hutchison in criticizing the GOP’s push for legislation to restrict access to contraception and other basic health care services:

“It makes no sense to make this attack on women,” she said at a local Chamber of Commerce luncheon. “If you don’t feel this is an attack, you need to go home and talk to your wife and your daughters.”


Murkowski — who recently said she regretted her vote for the anti-woman Blunt amendment — promised to fight for Planned Parenthood funding and also spoke out against Rush Limbaugh’s attack of Sandra Fluke, adding, “To have those kind of slurs against a woman … you had candidates who want to be our president not say, ‘That’s wrong. That’s offensive.’ They did not condemn the rhetoric.”

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/04/06/459702/murkowski-becomes-third-republican-senator-to-criticize-gops-war-on-women/



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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 02:28 PM

48. She gave a very good interview. nt

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 04:02 PM

49. Rachel Maddow Calls On GOP To Appoint Sen. Murkowski ‘War On Women’ Spokesperson

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 04:04 PM

50. But but but

Wasn't this after she voted against women.

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Response to malaise (Reply #50)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 04:14 PM

51. Yes, it was.

I need to see a little more consistency from Senator Murkowski before I give her a pass. She's been known to be extremely two-faced while trying to please both sides.

She knows she owes a debt to the Democrats (shame on you Democrats; you know who you are) and Independents in Alaska who wrote her in, but yet she still wants to hedge her bets on any leadership positions she might pick up if the Republicans take back the Senate. With her, it's always about self-interest.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 05:06 PM

52. Saw that on Huffington post a few days ago.

Of course Meh Rmoney figures he can shake the Etch a Sketch and voters will forget all about this.

Oh and Megan McCain called them out also. I'll see if I can find a link to the article.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 05:28 PM

53. She is a hypocrite and a liar. She voted for the damned Blunt amendment. What a pathetic

jerk!

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