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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:34 PM

At This Point Seems to Me The Reason They Are Taking So Much Time to Arrest Zimmerson is because

they are looking to throw the book at him.

Also explains why Zimmermans father and lawyers keep trying to sell their stories so hard.

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Reply At This Point Seems to Me The Reason They Are Taking So Much Time to Arrest Zimmerson is because (Original post)
Solomon Apr 2012 OP
immoderate Apr 2012 #1
Vincardog Apr 2012 #2
Viking12 Apr 2012 #6
Kaleva Apr 2012 #12
dkf Apr 2012 #3
bluestateguy Apr 2012 #4
elleng Apr 2012 #5
savalez Apr 2012 #7
freshwest Apr 2012 #8
magical thyme Apr 2012 #9
Solomon Apr 2012 #16
magical thyme Apr 2012 #21
-..__... Apr 2012 #10
Meiko Apr 2012 #11
Kaleva Apr 2012 #13
HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #14
Kaleva Apr 2012 #15
Solomon Apr 2012 #17
Kaleva Apr 2012 #18
Solomon Apr 2012 #19
Kaleva Apr 2012 #23
doc03 Apr 2012 #24
provis99 Apr 2012 #20
meow2u3 Apr 2012 #22

Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:37 PM

1. Think so?




--imm

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:40 PM

2. I think they are trying to run the clock. They will try to pull some BS like "He was arrested when

he was handcuffed. State law sys he has to be charged within x days after arrest. It is not x+1 days... We can't charge him now."

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Response to Vincardog (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:43 PM

6. He was never arrested. He was detained for questioning.

Additionally, there is no statute of limitations on murder.

I don't think they're necessarily planning to throw the book at him, just getting all of their ducks in a solid row to deal with the inevitable firestorm when they do decide to charge him.

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Response to Viking12 (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:25 PM

12. I agree

There is no statue of limitations on murder. Florida has a 'right to a speedy trial' law. 175 days after a suspect is initially arrested, the state has to bring the case to trial. It would behoove the state to make sure they had built a solid case against Zimmerman before arresting him.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:40 PM

3. You could be right.

 

They may be trying to differentiate between murder and manslaughter.

It's actually only right that they do so.

The prosecutor has a reputation of being aggressive.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:43 PM

4. You might be right, but you might be wrong

Or they are just kicking the can and waiting the news cycle out for the story to go away; waiting for the media and the people to move on to something else.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:43 PM

5. Could be,

but I'm concerned the potential evidence was tainted, for various reasons. (Misplaced, lost, never obtained; failed to interview witnesses/911 callers/neighbors.)

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:46 PM

7. IMO, they are selling their stories so hard to taint jury pool.

Isn't a Grand Jury to be held on the 10th?

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Response to savalez (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:50 PM

8. That's entirely possible.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:01 PM

9. that, or waiting for the grand jury.

If they wanted a whitewash, they'd run it through in a hurry. If they are going to arrest, they want the best possible chance for a conviction.

Zimmerman didn't add a criminal attorney for no reason.

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:50 PM

16. There's a new prosecutor. The previiously set grand

jury was scheduled by the Recused states attorney and the new one doesn't have to go before a grand jury on 10th.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:36 PM

21. I think the new one is waiting for the results of the grand jury

their findings may indicate the likelihood of being able to win a conviction at the state level, of a federal hate case, etc.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:04 PM

10. The investigators are covering their asses.

 

Federal investigations in particular are never quick and easy.

No one wants to drop the ball in this situation and lose or prejudice the case because they missed something or got their facts wrong.

Why rush it?

It's not as if some are intentionally delaying the case in the hopes that it will simply go away or get swept under the rug.

There's no fucking way that's going to happen.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:16 PM

11. If he is aquitted

 

It will start all over again during a civil litigation...It's going to be a long summer.

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Response to Meiko (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:28 PM

13. People covered by the 'stand your ground' law cannot be sued.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:43 PM

14. The Homeowners Association doesnt have immunity, though.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:44 PM

15. True. the law only applies to individuals.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:52 PM

17. Bullshit.

You sure love this law don't you. Keep on misinterpreting it.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:56 PM

18. Here you go.

"In addition, the law does away with an earlier requirement that a person attacked in a public place must retreat if possible. Now, that same person, in the law’s words, “has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force.” The law also forbids the arrest, detention or prosecution of the people covered by the law, and it prohibits civil suits against them. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/07/us/07shoot.html?_r=1

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:20 PM

19. You're still interpreting it wrong. if you really think

your local law enforcement has the power to decide SYG just on their sayso, you got another think coming.

You can't sue if SYG has been adjudicated in a court proceeding. That hasn't happened here yet. The Martins have every right to sue.

SYG doesn't even apply in this case though you seem intent on believing it as a given, as you have been told to do by the media and racist states attorney.

Zimmerman was not standing any ground. He pursued a child with a gun after he was told not to.

Sorry but this case is going to cause these laws to be repealed.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:48 PM

23. A lawsuit has been filed against a man cleared by the SYG law.

It's debatable if the lawsuit will go anywhere though.

"Hillsborough Circuit Judge Robert Foster found Podany was immune from prosecution under the state's "Stand Your Ground" law. The statute also immunizes shooters from any civil action.

"It would not surprise me if a court ultimately throws out this case," said Robert Batey, a criminal law professor at Stetson University College of Law. "But the issue could be more complicated than I see.""

http://www2.tbo.com/news/metro/2010/feb/14/na-stand-your-ground-civil-suit-is-a-surprise-ar-83027/

True, Tayvon's family can attempt to sue but more then likely, the lawsuit will be tossed unless Zimmerman is found not to be covered by SYG.

If you look at my posting history, you'll read comments written by me where I say the law needs to be changed. That it is medieval.

Your comment:

"Zimmerman was not standing any ground. He pursued a child with a gun after he was told not to."

But according to second hand sources (we don't really know what Zimmerman told the police), he lost track of Trayvon, was walking down a sidewalk, looking at the apartments to get an address, and was returning to his vehicle when Trayvon then confronted him.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:03 PM

24. How are you so positive Zimmerman pursued Martin? On the 911 recording Zimmerman was

asked if he was following Martin and he said yes. The cop then said "we don't (need) you to do that" not "don't do that".
Zimmerman said "OK", did that mean he agreed with the cop that he didn't "need" to pursue him and then did it anyway. Or "OK" could mean he stopped following him and headed back to his car as he claimed and then Martin confronted him. I don't feel I have enough evidence to come to any conclusion either way at this time. If it is proven Zimmerman did pursue Martin that would make Zimmerman the aggressor and I wouldn't think the SYG law apply to the case anyway.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:29 PM

20. I'd rather just stick with what I know so far.

 

And what I know so far is that he hasn't been arrested.

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Response to Solomon (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:37 PM

22. They may looking for evidence of a hate crime

I'm quite sure the Feds are looking to nail Zimmie on hate crime charges, especially with the "effin coons" remark, which Zimmie and the Neo-Nazis are trying to spin it as "effin' punks" to weasel his way out of getting the needle.

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