Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:46 PM
Maraya1969 (10,124 posts)
Dylan Ratigan is a whiny Fox news anchor that is playing on MSNBC
He constantly blames the president. He talks about how corrupt the government is with no discernment between Democrats and Republicans and he has even included the president in being corrupt. He needs to do that to hawk his stupid book "greedy bastards" so no matter what the subject or what the facts he always says the president is wrong and/or bad.
He has no business having a show on MSNBC. He isn't even objective. He sounds like a fox whore.
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61 replies, 3915 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Maraya1969 | Apr 2012 | OP | |
| Go Vols | Apr 2012 | #1 | |
| Poll_Blind | Apr 2012 | #12 | |
| Kahuna | Apr 2012 | #2 | |
| vaberella | Apr 2012 | #4 | |
| Kahuna | Apr 2012 | #10 | |
| vaberella | Apr 2012 | #3 | |
| RevStPatrick | Apr 2012 | #44 | |
| gateley | Apr 2012 | #5 | |
| Whisp | Apr 2012 | #14 | |
| Raine | Apr 2012 | #40 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #6 | |
| Maraya1969 | Apr 2012 | #7 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #11 | |
| RKP5637 | Apr 2012 | #15 | |
| Kahuna | Apr 2012 | #19 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #21 | |
| Kahuna | Apr 2012 | #24 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #27 | |
| RKP5637 | Apr 2012 | #26 | |
| Kahuna | Apr 2012 | #30 | |
| RKP5637 | Apr 2012 | #33 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #20 | |
| RKP5637 | Apr 2012 | #32 | |
| sad sally | Apr 2012 | #22 | |
| Kahuna | Apr 2012 | #31 | |
| Kahuna | Apr 2012 | #34 | |
| fascisthunter | Apr 2012 | #61 | |
| jwirr | Apr 2012 | #8 | |
| Spazito | Apr 2012 | #9 | |
| vaberella | Apr 2012 | #13 | |
| Kahuna | Apr 2012 | #18 | |
| provis99 | Apr 2012 | #16 | |
| quinnox | Apr 2012 | #17 | |
| abolugi | Apr 2012 | #23 | |
| Kahuna | Apr 2012 | #28 | |
| Tarheel_Dem | Apr 2012 | #46 | |
| FarLeftFist | Apr 2012 | #25 | |
| earthside | Apr 2012 | #29 | |
| Po_d Mainiac | Apr 2012 | #35 | |
| brentspeak | Apr 2012 | #36 | |
| girl gone mad | Apr 2012 | #37 | |
| RKP5637 | Apr 2012 | #38 | |
| MrScorpio | Apr 2012 | #39 | |
| provis99 | Apr 2012 | #45 | |
| Iliyah | Apr 2012 | #49 | |
| libinnyandia | Apr 2012 | #41 | |
| Raine | Apr 2012 | #42 | |
| Tarheel_Dem | Apr 2012 | #43 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Apr 2012 | #47 | |
| bec | Apr 2012 | #48 | |
| jp11 | Apr 2012 | #50 | |
| Prophet 451 | Apr 2012 | #51 | |
| ecstatic | Apr 2012 | #52 | |
| Go Vols | Apr 2012 | #53 | |
| Tarheel_Dem | Apr 2012 | #54 | |
| Tarheel_Dem | Apr 2012 | #55 | |
| Maraya1969 | Apr 2012 | #56 | |
| Tarheel_Dem | Apr 2012 | #59 | |
| Maraya1969 | Apr 2012 | #57 | |
| Ikonoklast | Apr 2012 | #58 | |
| TheKentuckian | Apr 2012 | #60 |
Response to Go Vols (Reply #1)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:56 PM
Poll_Blind (23,468 posts)
12. That's four and a half minutes of truth, right there. +1 nt
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PB
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:50 PM
Kahuna (26,426 posts)
2. I hate him. Every thing you state is true. He is a glib,
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brain dead, obtuse, asshole.
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Response to Kahuna (Reply #2)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:50 PM
vaberella (24,253 posts)
4. Yup yup, but he thinks what he says is relevant. n/t
Response to vaberella (Reply #4)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:54 PM
Kahuna (26,426 posts)
10. Yup. His disingenuous prattle is like manna to his likewise
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glib and clueless following.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:50 PM
vaberella (24,253 posts)
3. Ratigan is not a liberal. He's a Libertarian.
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That's how he rolls. I don't even know why liberals generally tune in. He's totally anti-government and finds it worthless.
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Response to vaberella (Reply #3)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:25 PM
RevStPatrick (1,935 posts)
44. And MSNBC is not a "liberal network"
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It is a money-making machine, just like Fox.
They figured that there was a niche that was not being exploited elsewhere, and they devote a few hours here and there to attracting "liberal" eyeballs to their advertisements. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:51 PM
gateley (61,965 posts)
5. I understand your charge, but I think I'd rather have someone like Dylan who says what he thinks
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even if it runs against what many of us think, than "hosts" that just prattle off the company propaganda. It's good to hear someone critical of the President in that venue, I think. We can make up our own minds whether or not we think he's right, but don't silence him!
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Response to gateley (Reply #5)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:59 PM
Whisp (17,827 posts)
14. I don't mind Ratigan now.
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Used to bug my ass a while ago but I think it's good to hear stuff you don't always agree with. And he doesn't do it the Fox way at all, imho - he's quite intelligent and focuses on the overall picture of corruption and heinous things humans have always done. I don't think he or anyone can expect the President to overturn thousands of years of how things work on the forsaken planet and when he blames Obama for this kind of thing - that's the part I have to really disagree with him with. Why people think we can just magically teleport to this wonderful, fair existence in an instant. That one man can change the whole course of history of how badly we treat each other and how greedy and ugly some people are.
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Response to gateley (Reply #5)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:42 PM
Raine (20,235 posts)
40. I agree. I don't need someone who only tells me what I want to hear ... that's the repug way ...
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I'm a Democrat, I can handle hearing both sides.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:51 PM
nadinbrzezinski (121,594 posts)
6. I hate to point this out
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The level of corruption, regardless of party, is real.
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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #6)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:53 PM
Maraya1969 (10,124 posts)
7. I do not believe President Obama is corrupt.
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Period.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #7)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:54 PM
nadinbrzezinski (121,594 posts)
11. But play for pay schemes are just a GOP thing
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Last edited Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:55 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) And I did not say any individual person is, but that THE SYSTEM is.
Learn to read, please. The US is far more corrupt than people would like to think. Oh forgot the |
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:00 PM
RKP5637 (25,783 posts)
15. All the time this becomes more and more clear to me. Many in the
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US are in denial. I completely agree with you. "The US is far more corrupt than people would like to think."
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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #15)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:15 PM
Kahuna (26,426 posts)
19. Did you really just discover how corrupt the "system" is? I'd be willing to bet that not only
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do most Americans KNOW it's corrupt, but they have known so for many years. It's not that we accept the corruption. We simply acknowledge that it is what it is, and until voters AND non-voters become more engaged in politics and how it affects everything in our lives, it will remain corrupt. Obama would change it if he could, but he cannot do it alone. When he needed our help in 2010, we failed him and the country.
Dylan is a libertarian, as has been pointed out. His attacks on the president are juvenile, if not totally disingenuous. |
Response to Kahuna (Reply #19)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:20 PM
nadinbrzezinski (121,594 posts)
21. I hate to point this out
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But your post is a perfect example of the team mentality. It is systemic and those who benefit rarely want to change it. The Guilded age took a few massive scandals, that shockingly involved both parties.
Oh by the way I bet most Americans believe the myth that we're not that corrupt...I mean we're special and chosen and shit. |
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #21)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:25 PM
Kahuna (26,426 posts)
24. GUILTY! I'm on Team Obama and proud of it. In case you haven't noticed..
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there are two teams running the show, and I'm on the side of the good guys. I'm not as interested in tearing my country or party down as you may be.
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Response to Kahuna (Reply #24)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:29 PM
nadinbrzezinski (121,594 posts)
27. I am interested in the country
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Just don't accuse Republicans of putting party before country. You are doing the same.
I know there are INDIVIDUALS who may do that, but at this time both parties are corrupt, and citizens united exacerbated the problem by orders of magnitude. At least your neighbors to the south blame politicians for the corruption and don't play these stupid manichean names. By the way patriots put the country ahead of parties. |
Response to Kahuna (Reply #19)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:27 PM
RKP5637 (25,783 posts)
26. No, not at all, but during the Bush administration it really became evident. I tell
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people Obama is not king. He can't wave a wand and make things suddenly happen. Frankly, I'm amazed at how well he has done with these obstacles.
Too many people take things for granted, that the US will just chug along and things will be OK. I even have trouble getting some people to vote I know, because they think the country will just chug along. I got them to vote for Obama in 2008, and I will do that again for 2012. The turning of backs on Obama and the dems in 2010 was stupid, and horrific damage was done. |
Response to RKP5637 (Reply #15)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:16 PM
nadinbrzezinski (121,594 posts)
20. The main problem is
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theis the sports mentality, GO TEAM! It means only the other side is capable of doing that.
We see this mentality in many posts that are not even distantly related to politics. Surprise, our mirror site does the same thing substituting democrat for reoublican. Until people step away from team sports.... |
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #20)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:39 PM
RKP5637 (25,783 posts)
32. Yep!!! And it's always win/lose, not win/win ... and win/lose does little
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Last edited Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) to unite the country. Rather than focusing on problems and intelligent solutions often the rhetoric is ripping the other person/group. Deepak Chopra was talking about this on Joe Scarborough's show this week and made considerable sense IMO.
Here's a link to that segment of the show. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/46963409#46963409 |
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #11)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:21 PM
sad sally (2,627 posts)
22. The massive amounts of money in politics certainly has contributed to the
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corrupt system in this country. Some of Ratigan's criticism of the President was his decision to join the super pac party even though he supposedly didn't want to but was forced to in order to be competitive.
Once we assuage our conscience by calling something a “necessary evil”, it begins to look more and more necessary and less and less evil. -Sydney J. Harris, journalist (1917-1986) |
Response to sad sally (Reply #22)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:34 PM
Kahuna (26,426 posts)
31. Oh please. Dylan was hating on the president long before the super pac issue..
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Each and every day, rat boy will find something stupid to pin on the president.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #7)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:46 PM
Kahuna (26,426 posts)
34. Maraya1969, You Are Correct!!! Our president is a good and honorable man...
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Period.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #7)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 01:36 AM
fascisthunter (28,619 posts)
61. both parties and Obama are corrupt
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sorry... they represent corporate America more than most who voted.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:53 PM
jwirr (20,963 posts)
8. Which is why I so not watch him.
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:53 PM
Spazito (26,475 posts)
9. I agree, I mute my volume on my computer while he is on...
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He's a repub/libertarian but gets all snarly if anyone even says he leans right and has an ego that could compete with that of Gingrich or Trump and he sounds like them all too often as well, imo.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:59 PM
vaberella (24,253 posts)
13. May I just point out that Toure irritates me. n/t
Response to vaberella (Reply #13)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:03 PM
Kahuna (26,426 posts)
18. He irritates me too. He is just as glib and useless. But that Imogen!!
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The most irritating woman on earth.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:00 PM
provis99 (13,062 posts)
16. yes, but he does have the World's Greatest Haircut!
or maybe not... |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:02 PM
quinnox (16,019 posts)
17. jesus, watching that posted clip was enough
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I don't care what his politics are, he sounded like he was on speed or some drug talking so fast and getting so agitated. Didn't know who he was before, I don't watch MSNBC, but dude needs to calm down.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:23 PM
abolugi (417 posts)
23. He is much too negative
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I turn the channel when he comes on.
I don't think I've ever seen him happy about anything. I don't have the time or energy to process that much anger! |
Response to abolugi (Reply #23)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:30 PM
Kahuna (26,426 posts)
28. His rants are juvenile. How olds is he, like 50? He acts like
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he alone just discovered greed and corruption. Newsflash Dylan! This shit has been going on since the beginning of time. You didn't discover anything that everybody in the country didn't already know, so chill.
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Response to Kahuna (Reply #28)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:37 PM
Tarheel_Dem (16,980 posts)
46. I wouldn't worry too much about it. How long before he winds up @ Current competing with Cenk?
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:27 PM
FarLeftFist (6,161 posts)
25. Can't they replace Ratigan with Krystal Ball instead? And one of Tweety's re-broadcast with MHP?
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:30 PM
earthside (4,664 posts)
29. You couldn't be more wrong.
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But if all you are looking for is a Democratic Party, Obama hack cheerleader ... nope, Dylan Ratigan is not for you.
Furthermore, you couldn't be more blind if you think that Democrats are just perfect and aren't part of the insider Washington, D.C. establishment -- lots of the are. And even more Repuglicans are. Ratigan calls them all out. He is very independent minded -- which is why he wouldn't last 30 minutes on FoxPAC-TV. Really, I don't understand why so many people just want to hear that their side is good and the other side is bad. Is it really that difficult to hear a variety of viewpoints and think on your own .... and then make up your mind? We know Repuglicans and Teabaggers are like that -- heaven help us if liberals and progressives start getting that doctrinaire. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:01 PM
Po_d Mainiac (4,183 posts)
35. wrong on all counts
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:06 PM
brentspeak (16,601 posts)
36. Tough. Obama is only slightly less crooked than the the Repubs
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As his signing of the "JOBS" Act today demonstrates.
Thank goodness we still have some TV commentators out there who aren't Wall St lapdogs. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:09 PM
girl gone mad (20,634 posts)
37. Worth noting..
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all of your criticisms are ad hominem, and not even factual ad hominem at that.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:18 PM
RKP5637 (25,783 posts)
38. I certainly agreed with what I saw as the bottom line, "Get the money out of politics!" n/t
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:32 PM
MrScorpio (55,731 posts)
39. He's 39 and he looks older than me… I'm fifty years old!
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All that bullshit ages a person.
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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #39)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:33 PM
provis99 (13,062 posts)
45. yeah, I've noticed that too.
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some people don't age well; but on the other hand, why does 45 year old Don Lemon of CNN look like a 25 year old kid?
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Response to provis99 (Reply #45)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:04 PM
Iliyah (2,501 posts)
49. 45?
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Damn, he looks goooooooodddddddddddd.
As to Dylan R, I don't watch him at all. He blames to blame and if he is a Libertarian (sp?), their only concern is for self and self-family and eff everyone else. Hate what you want about the Dems and Pres O but at least they do care a little bit more than the "Rs" who also care for self and eff everyone else. Hmmmmm, I remember the 2010 elections wherein majority of the Rs/Libertarian likes (Ron Paul) was going to help and work on a better ecomony for the American people. I'm still waiting. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:43 PM
libinnyandia (1,374 posts)
41. I don't care for Matt Miller too much either.
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:56 PM
Raine (20,235 posts)
42. Yeah best to never hear an opposing viewpoint
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on MSNBC just like the viewers of Faux, than you're always reasured that there is no opposing viewpoint.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:12 PM
Tarheel_Dem (16,980 posts)
43. Shut him off! Don't feed his ratings. Perhaps he can take KO's spot at Current?
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:41 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,256 posts)
47. MSNBC is not a Democratic Party network. It is not Fox.
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MSNBC has a show hosted by a Republican for several hours every morning. It then has several opinion shows by Democratic hosts (who are not journalists; they are in the infotainment business). It then provides regular news. MSNBC is a mixture.
CNN is the most neutral. Fox is owned by the Republican Party, so to speak. |
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:56 PM
bec (40 posts)
48. I like Dylan
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I don't take offense to anything he said in that clip, because he is absolutely right.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:08 PM
jp11 (2,104 posts)
50. Don't watch him then.
Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:41 AM
Prophet 451 (6,893 posts)
51. MSNBC is not a liberal network
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While they do have some liberal hosts, that's more than countered by Joe Scarbrough for three honkin' hours every morning. Looked at from the outside (the UK in this case): Fox is ultraright-fringe, CNN is centre-right and MSNBC is centreist. One could call Current a liberal network although that depends a lot on where they go in the wake of KO's firing.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 07:53 AM
ecstatic (18,610 posts)
52. I don't think he has talent
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I'm wondering who he knows at NBC because this is his second gig with the network despite the fact that he's incoherent and generally unwatchable. And I think he's lying about his age too. 39 with a head full of grey hair?
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Response to ecstatic (Reply #52)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 12:10 PM
Go Vols (1,202 posts)
53. I dont think its who he knows
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as much as how many viewers he brings.He is MSNBC's highest rated non prime time show.
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Response to Go Vols (Reply #53)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:14 PM
Tarheel_Dem (16,980 posts)
54. "MSNBC's highest rated non prime time show."
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Where'd you get that information?
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:49 PM
Tarheel_Dem (16,980 posts)
55. Maraya, I thought this was interesting. MSNBC has hit on a winning formula.
The 6pmET hour of programming — now Al Sharpton‘s “PoliticsNation” – is up +32% in Total Viewers and up +18% in A25-54 viewers compared to March 2011, when the hour was hosted by Cenk Uygur.
The good news is that a lot more people are seeking out the positive as opposed to the constant negative drumbeat on offer at Fox and CNN. |
Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #55)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:54 PM
Maraya1969 (10,124 posts)
56. Good to hear that. I wonder how his show is doing.
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I think I'll got check your link out.
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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #56)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 11:26 PM
Tarheel_Dem (16,980 posts)
59. His ratings are up quite significantly, but as I asked the poster upthread.....
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where is the data that shows Dylan as the #1 MSNBC daytime show? I can't seem to find that.
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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #55)
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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 11:00 PM
Ikonoklast (21,699 posts)
58. Dylan Ratigan is a 1%'er.
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He can go fuck himself.
Nice to see he has his defenders here, though. |
Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #58)
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 01:12 AM
TheKentuckian (17,523 posts)


