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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:23 PM Jul 2014

Two officers reassigned after man dies in police custody

Azi Paybarah

Two NYPD officers were placed on desk duty after an incident in Staten Island Thursday night in which a man in police custody died after being placed in a chokehold.

At a press conference Friday Mayor Bill de Blasio said he found it “very troubling” to watch a video that captured the incident, during which 43-year-old Eric Garner can be heard repeatedly saying, "I can't breathe" as officers held him down.

Police commissioner William Bratton said at the press conference that chokeholds are banned by the NYPD and other police departments around the country “because of concerns of potential death arising from it.”

"As defined by the department’s patrol guide, this appears to have been a chokehold,” Bratton said, adding the “final determination” will be made by investigators.

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/city-hall/2014/07/8549272/two-officers-reassigned-after-man-dies-police-custody

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Two officers reassigned after man dies in police custody (Original Post) hrmjustin Jul 2014 OP
Yay, Cops! Iggo Jul 2014 #1
Yay cops? SCVDem Jul 2014 #29
I'm guessing intended sarcasm in that post sakabatou Jul 2014 #31
OMG, Nonononono! Totally dripping with sarcasm. Iggo Jul 2014 #36
this was a criminal homicide. We'll see what De Blasio is made of here nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #2
He has nothing to do here. it is the Staten Island DA that has to charge them. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #6
Buck stops with the mayor. He has a phone, and a bully pulpit geek tragedy Jul 2014 #8
My guess is the da will bring it to the grand jury. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #9
the use of a prohibited choke hold would seem to make this a pretty geek tragedy Jul 2014 #10
There is always the feds. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #11
A mayor can make long term policy changes, which is what we should expect bluestateguy Jul 2014 #25
I'm not sure how that will play with minority voters nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #26
Prediction Savannahmann Jul 2014 #3
Reassigned falls 'slightly' short of an involuntary manslaughter charge PowerToThePeople Jul 2014 #4
Well, that's a start. Any wagers on whether we ever see an indictment of the cops? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #5
Doubt it with the conservative DA of Staten Island. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #7
Depressing Roy Serohz Jul 2014 #12
WARNING: Video of a man being murdered geomon666 Jul 2014 #13
exactly. in a 2 minute and 5 second video we see him murdered IcyPeas Jul 2014 #16
Yup. And there's certainly more than 2 cops involved in that murder. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #33
Good god!!!! Cooley Hurd Jul 2014 #14
And not one of those idiots started doing CPR. Murderers and accessories to murder. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2014 #22
If Garner had choked a cop to death, do you suppose he'd be "placed on desk duty?" Orrex Jul 2014 #15
"Contempt of Cop" Mopar151 Jul 2014 #17
At least you're in NY where there is some pressure to TBF Jul 2014 #18
Only two? davidthegnome Jul 2014 #19
The police commisioner should suspend them all. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #20
That's how it always goes. Mariana Jul 2014 #28
Cops... secondvariety Jul 2014 #21
"reassignment"!? imthevicar Jul 2014 #23
I have no faith in the SI DA. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #24
I love how once they realize they killed the guy passiveporcupine Jul 2014 #27
Why aren't they in jail, booked for murder? tabasco Jul 2014 #30
Good question. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #32
Innocent man is murdered. Cops don't care RainDog Jul 2014 #34
Not good enough! In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #35
Cop who murdered Eric Garner waved at the camera. geomon666 Jul 2014 #37
#JusticeforEricGarner napkinz Jul 2014 #38

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
36. OMG, Nonononono! Totally dripping with sarcasm.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 10:57 PM
Jul 2014

I post that on every police brutality OP I see.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
6. He has nothing to do here. it is the Staten Island DA that has to charge them.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jul 2014

He is GOP and so is the jury pool.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. Buck stops with the mayor. He has a phone, and a bully pulpit
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jul 2014

If the DA doesn't charge them, there needs to be more than silence.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
9. My guess is the da will bring it to the grand jury.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jul 2014

That is normal procedure but he will do it half heartedly.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. the use of a prohibited choke hold would seem to make this a pretty
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jul 2014

clear case of some kind of crime.

We'll see. Not getting my hopes up with Staten Island.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
25. A mayor can make long term policy changes, which is what we should expect
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jul 2014

But a mayor, or any other chief executive, like a governor or a president, cannot simply order that someone be charged with a crime.

There is a reason for that, so as to depoliticize the justice system and that is a good thing.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
3. Prediction
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:26 PM
Jul 2014

The police officers will be retrained on the policy of not abusing people on camera, and then returned to patrol duties.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
5. Well, that's a start. Any wagers on whether we ever see an indictment of the cops?
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jul 2014

Ha ha. Funny. I know.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
13. WARNING: Video of a man being murdered
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jul 2014

And don't kid yourself because that's exactly what this is. You can sprinkle it with sugar and call it negligent homicide or manslaughter or whatever you want. Fact is, Eric Garner was murdered by the police July 17, 2014.

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
16. exactly. in a 2 minute and 5 second video we see him murdered
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jul 2014

the man is alive and 2 minutes later we see him dead. DEAD. MURDERED in front of our eyes.

how do they keep getting away with this?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
33. Yup. And there's certainly more than 2 cops involved in that murder.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jul 2014

Accessories before, during and after the fact.

Mopar151

(9,980 posts)
17. "Contempt of Cop"
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 01:35 PM
Jul 2014

Should'nt involve the death penalty. And as a large man myself, I can tell you "short cop disease" is rampant.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
18. At least you're in NY where there is some pressure to
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 01:50 PM
Jul 2014

look into this. I think it would be swept under the rug here in TX.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
19. Only two?
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jul 2014

I saw a lot more than two in that video. They should all be not just reassigned, but on trial for murder. All of those officers there... and no one thought that maybe a choke-hold wasn't the best idea? No one listened to the man who said he couldn't breathe? They didn't back off and seek medical attention? Fucking hell. Small children have better sense than this. Complete idiots have better sense than this.

That man wasn't violent, wasn't assaulting police - simply told them not to touch him. Unless they were prepared to arrest him and charge him with an actual crime, I want to know what the fuck was going on. These assholes do not deserve badges, guns, or uniforms - they deserve to be in prison. Every single one of them who took part in this god damned moronic, criminal, and despicable assault on an American citizen.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
20. The police commisioner should suspend them all.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 01:53 PM
Jul 2014

The Da of Staten Island is gopand very conservative so I have no faith in him.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
28. That's how it always goes.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 02:59 PM
Jul 2014

And it totally blows away any argument that "bad cops" are a minority and all the other cops, the "good cops", hate them. Whenever a cop does something like this, and there are other cops on the scene, those other cops either stand by and do nothing to protect the victim, or they actively join in the fun. That's how it always goes.

They do this even when they know they're being recorded. That tells you how confident they are that nothing bad will happen to them as a result of their actions.

 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
23. "reassignment"!?
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jul 2014

Don't they usually get paid "Vacation", Ummmm, Errr, Oh Yeah that's right They call it "Administrative Leave" till these things are cleared?
I Predict: all charges will be dropped, and it will be determined that the Officers acted with restraint and Professionalism, Yeah, Professionalism, that's the ticket!.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
27. I love how once they realize they killed the guy
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jul 2014

they become manic about not letting any cameras near the scene.

This gives me chills. I don't want to hate cops, but some of them are really evil.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
34. Innocent man is murdered. Cops don't care
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 04:03 PM
Jul 2014

This incident makes me sick to my stomach. And it's only one of many that actually happen, in this case caught on camera.

I try not to hate LE, but they make it hard not to hate them.

Every single LE agent on that scene should be tried for murder or accessory to murder.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
37. Cop who murdered Eric Garner waved at the camera.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 11:19 PM
Jul 2014

WARNING: Dying/Dead man in video

While they wheeled away Eric's dying/dead body, the pig, wearing a green shirt with yellow lettering waves at the camera after putting Eric in an illegal chokehold and murdering him.

6:56

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=509_1405750941

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
38. #JusticeforEricGarner
Mon Jul 21, 2014, 05:20 PM
Jul 2014
http://act.colorofchange.org/sign/eric_garner/




Please take action and demand that NYC Police Commissioner Bill Bratton immediately start the process to fire all the officers involved in this devastating police killing. Furthermore, Mayor Bill de Blasio and District Attorney Donovan have the power and the responsibility to hold the police department completely accountable.

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Dear District Attorney Donovan, Mayor de Blasio and Police Commissioner Bratton,

I am deeply troubled by the outrageous conduct of the officers who choked Eric Garner to death in Staten Island. Garner is the latest in a long history of Black and brown New Yorkers who have unjustly had their lives cut short by police officers over the past decades. But this time the entire brutal encounter was caught on tape.

The officers involved can be seen using a violent chokehold to subdue Eric – which runs counter to the NYPD's use of force policy. This brutal choking is yet another example of unnecessary police encounters resulting from policing policies and practices that target Black and brown communities, such as Stop and Frisk and now Commissioner Bratton's "broken windows" tactic. These discriminatory tactics subject Black and brown New Yorkers to constant harassment, violence and can can quickly escalate and turn fatal.

In order for these incidents to end, it is critical that a thorough and fair investigation be conducted, justice be served and all of the officers involved in the deadly altercation be held accountable.

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