Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:37 PM

Armed neo-nazis patrolling Sanford...

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/04/heavily_armed_neo-nazis_patrol.php

Neo-Nazis are currently conducting heavily armed patrols in and around Sanford, Florida and are "prepared" for violence in the case of a race riot. The patrols are to protect "white citizens in the area who are concerned for their safety" in the wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting last month, says Commander Jeff Schoep of the National Socialist Movement. "We are not advocating any type of violence or attacks on anybody, but we are prepared for it," he says. "We are not the type of white people who are going to be walked all over."

Because nothing diffuses racial tension like gun-toting racial separatists patrolling an already on-edge community.

Schoep, whose neo-Nazi group is based in Detroit, tells Riptide the patrols are a response to white residents' fears of a race riot.

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Armed neo-nazis patrolling Sanford... (Original post)	Luminous Animal	Apr 2012	OP
If Sanford Police would like to right a wrong.	anti-alec	Apr 2012	#1
this is horrendous. good work, pug floridians. this will not end well.	roguevalley	Apr 2012	#105
I was just about to post this.	EFerrari	Apr 2012	#2
WTF??? n/t	malaise	Apr 2012	#3
They've started a civil war...	FarPoint	Apr 2012	#4
There is nothing at all	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#5
That's what started this sh!t to begin with....Here we go.	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#6
They need a new sheriff!	immoderate	Apr 2012	#7
With the FBI in town?	lpbk2713	Apr 2012	#8
I hate the Florida Nazis. n/t	Ian David	Apr 2012	#9
I hate ALL Nazis. n/t	Downtown Hound	Apr 2012	#12
They're worse than Illinois Nazis...	Cooley Hurd	Apr 2012	#54
Socialist movement????	Spacedog1973	Apr 2012	#10
If you are asking that was the official name of the Nazi party even though they were NOT socialists.	jwirr	Apr 2012	#13
I doubt god will have any say in the matter. nt	obxhead	Apr 2012	#30
Agreed	FiveGoodMen	Apr 2012	#38
The original Nazis took over the disintigrating socialist party in Germany	jeff47	Apr 2012	#14
I've been lurking the past couple months, but could not let this go unremarked. The original	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#58
Taking over the socialist party doesn't mean they were actually socialists.	jeff47	Apr 2012	#98
The Socialist Party was alive and well at the	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#110
This message was self-deleted by its author	DevonRex	Apr 2012	#131
Yeah, they used "Socialist" to sell themselves to the public.	backscatter712	Apr 2012	#132
You need to read more on Mussolini and Hitler and their party's. n/t	vaberella	Apr 2012	#17
National Socialism was the official name of the NAZI Party	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#20
"Socialist" in the same vein as "National Socialist Party" or Nazis	KansDem	Apr 2012	#23
Fox is stealing a tactic from Hitler and his cronies who used to use 'Bolshevik' and 'Jew'	coalition_unwilling	Apr 2012	#59
Every propaganda technique from that era has been used by FNN for years, shamelessly.	freshwest	Apr 2012	#106
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!	tabasco	Apr 2012	#50
i fart in their general direction.	spanone	Apr 2012	#11
These Nazi freaks are praying for even the slightest opportunity to allow them to just	bullwinkle428	Apr 2012	#15
I believe they are hoping to exploit Flori-duh's insane gun laws to begin a race war	me b zola	Apr 2012	#71
You mean another race war, though. Florida, like other states has a history of killing blacks.	freshwest	Apr 2012	#130
I can only guess who's been fanning those flames of fear	JNelson6563	Apr 2012	#16
I agree. eom	K Gardner	Apr 2012	#21
Black people let's just leave the US. We're not welcome.a	vaberella	Apr 2012	#18
this is why some black people did and do leave the US	noiretextatique	Apr 2012	#24
Noooooo!!!!	KamaAina	Apr 2012	#65
probably not going to leave for a while	noiretextatique	Apr 2012	#133
You'd probably be able to find someplace cheap in Greece	KamaAina	Apr 2012	#146
And give the racists what they want? Black people have been fighting for this	1monster	Apr 2012	#37
You want Irony? The guy the that the City of Sanford was named for	csziggy	Apr 2012	#64
Oh for god's sakes..neo-Nazi's? Nice way to diffuse a situation. eom	K Gardner	Apr 2012	#19
I wonder if GZ has direct ties to this group?	Waiting For Everyman	Apr 2012	#22
that makes more sense to me than	laundry_queen	Apr 2012	#127
Scumbag assholes!	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#25
If you go to the link	malthaussen	Apr 2012	#26
Is "Commander" his legal first name?	IDemo	Apr 2012	#27
Maybe	bongbong	Apr 2012	#33
The NAZIs are paramilitary	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#35
I think IDemo was wondering why the Press	malthaussen	Apr 2012	#39
Because the Press will do that shit	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#44
That's how they style themselves, alright	IDemo	Apr 2012	#41
And if you became part of a nooz story	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#48
Surprised he doesn't call himself	malthaussen	Apr 2012	#51
Tradition with the Nazi party	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#52
I'll admit to a dirty little secret, Ms Brzenzinski	malthaussen	Apr 2012	#53
Nadin	unionworks	Apr 2012	#83
Too much reading	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#85
Na Zdrowie	unionworks	Apr 2012	#89
You too, for us it's Passover.	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#90
no difference	unionworks	Apr 2012	#92
I promise NOT to drink four cups of wine.	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#93
I don't drink either...	unionworks	Apr 2012	#94
here	SwampG8r	Apr 2012	#108
Thanks	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#109
yeah i know	SwampG8r	Apr 2012	#148
wow.... nice to see you again	fascisthunter	Apr 2012	#156
when they	SwampG8r	Apr 2012	#166
Yeah well... fuck them. We know their game	fascisthunter	Apr 2012	#167
I think the PRESS use of the word -- without quotes -- was the complaint here	FiveGoodMen	Apr 2012	#43
AP style guide is all but clear on that one	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#45
It shows how seriously they take themselves	loyalsister	Apr 2012	#86
So then Jews and Minorities can open fire on them, correct?	SomethingFishy	Apr 2012	#28
why not advocate for the arrest of zimmerman instead?	noiretextatique	Apr 2012	#29
Yeah, let's get a bunch of people together and stop all these vigilantes!	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#61
If Zimmerman had murdered a white child	obxhead	Apr 2012	#31
Damn, what is the best way to make scum like this a thing of the past?	20score	Apr 2012	#32
They have to die childless	FiveGoodMen	Apr 2012	#47
They are a thing of the past. I can't find any place in history "they" haven't	jtuck004	Apr 2012	#56
I think maybe it's option 2...	limpyhobbler	Apr 2012	#147
Good point.	20score	Apr 2012	#149
Oh THIS ought to go well.. What could possibly* go wrong. . .n/t	annabanana	Apr 2012	#34
Great PR for Zimmerman!	fascisthunter	Apr 2012	#36
Why would people in Sanford fear a riot? If zimmermann is arrested and charged as the family has	notadmblnd	Apr 2012	#40
Article says some of those Nazis are local to the Sanford area.	yardwork	Apr 2012	#42
The Astute Reader(TM) will note that the only NSM member named in the article lives in Detroit	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#68
Ah, but Southern Poverty Law Center, which does have a reputation,	yardwork	Apr 2012	#73
I have a few of those within a few miles of my house too	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#77
Here from their site	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#81
Love the misuse of the word "whom." Dumb people trying to sound clever.	yardwork	Apr 2012	#82
Yup, to them I got the best of all worlds.	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#84
By the way my mind read as who	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#88
Once again we circle back to the dubious source of the dubious claim made in the OP	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#115
If you're suggesting that these Nazis are mostly blowing smoke, I'd agree.	yardwork	Apr 2012	#119
I haven't dismissed their existence in any way, only challenged the veracity of their own statements	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#120
I'm not clear on what you're saying. You think the whole thing is made up?	yardwork	Apr 2012	#121
I think some skinhead keyboard commando in Michigan made up some shit and posted it on his Web site.	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#122
I see your point.	yardwork	Apr 2012	#123
Yeah, right. Like they don't have pictures on their website of "actions" around	Luminous Animal	Apr 2012	#153
I haven't yet seen a single photo of any "action" in Sanford, Florida	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#158
And the Miami Herald that did not quote the other paper	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#135
No surprise, and does not support the claim made in the OP	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#113
Oh wow	Aerows	Apr 2012	#46
So they're easy to identify, goosestepping around town	RetroLounge	Apr 2012	#49
I'm waiting to see videos of that on CNN, or even YouTube, before I believe this story	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#63
The National Socialist Movement released a press release in March	Luminous Animal	Apr 2012	#76
I will provide the first para	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#80
Yes, we know they SAID they planned to do it because that's the source of the claim in the OP	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#114
last week I almost watched the History channels	onethatcares	Apr 2012	#55
Good ole law-abiding citizens using guns to intimidate. Screw em.	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#57
somehow not surprising	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#60
Is there any independent confirmation of this story? Miami New Times seems to be the sole source...	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#62
Lots of stories but they all link back to the Miami New Times article.	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#66
Yes, and on the Web that USUALLY means one thing.	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#67
Not necessarily	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#72
How about you astutely go read the press release from the National Socialist Movement	Luminous Animal	Apr 2012	#78
Wow, the NSM page even links right back to the exact same New Miami Times article!	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#111
And this mention in the Miami Herald..	Luminous Animal	Apr 2012	#79
"Meanwhile a white separatist group announced it plans to conduct patrols..."	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#112
No doubt Zimmerman and Neo-Nazis are upstanding citizens and gun owners. {sarcasm thingy}	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#70
Check out the Southern Poverty Law Center Hate Map:	Junkdrawer	Apr 2012	#69
Where's the police?	Iggo	Apr 2012	#74
Policing the area	krispos42	Apr 2012	#75
Some of those that work forces...	Iggo	Apr 2012	#87
WTF! Why is this not illegal?	freshwest	Apr 2012	#91
Something 'bout the First Ammendment	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#95
Yeah, but not as a patrol. Even AZ had to pass a law for that. They're usurping what the police	freshwest	Apr 2012	#101
Stirred it is	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#102
Nazis are not a terrorist organization like the KKK\GOP is	uponit7771	Apr 2012	#96
'Nazis are not a terrorist organization like the KKK\GOP is.' Okay, if you say so.	freshwest	Apr 2012	#103
wat nt	sudopod	Apr 2012	#138
Uh, Fail?	derby378	Apr 2012	#141
Of course not. They are just an adult version of the Cub Scouts. With guns. And hate.	Kablooie	Apr 2012	#143
It doesn't matter because it's not actually happening	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#116
Well, that's a relief. Now we can all go back to making Easter eggs.	freshwest	Apr 2012	#125
RA-MEN!	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#126
I wouldn't believe all the woo if I was you. It's entertaining, but keep yourself grounded.	freshwest	Apr 2012	#128
Anyone who doubts the O.P.	unionworks	Apr 2012	#97
Can you provide a link from somewhere "all over the Web" that doesn't circle back to the article...	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#117
Would the Nat'l Guard be called in if	EmeraldCityGrl	Apr 2012	#99
I'd say that the county sheriff, the state police and police from nearby jurisdictions	amandabeech	Apr 2012	#137
The local police have not instilled confidence...	EmeraldCityGrl	Apr 2012	#142
I agree with your assessment of the local police.	amandabeech	Apr 2012	#145
An Easter Prayer	unionworks	Apr 2012	#100
Am I the only one who finds it ironic	guitar man	Apr 2012	#104
Hispanic catholic	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#107
Actually, the neos are there to protect white people from African Americans.	amandabeech	Apr 2012	#140
OMG! I found a video of a National Socialist Movement rally on YouTube!!!	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#118
Oh.My.Gahd.	Iggo	Apr 2012	#124
lol, they did that a few years earlier, too.	sudopod	Apr 2012	#139
Those Nazis would love nothing more THAN a race riot	MrScorpio	Apr 2012	#129
In this case, it's not really Nazis stirring up racial tensions. It's rumors of Nazis.	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#136
Oh my!!!!	Rex	Apr 2012	#134
They are also armed with a law that allows them to murder without consequences.	Kablooie	Apr 2012	#144
that is the plan	fascisthunter	Apr 2012	#151
well.... sign of the time... hence the handle	fascisthunter	Apr 2012	#150
You got anything from any mainstream type news organizations?	rl6214	Apr 2012	#152
You mean the same MSM that reported Iraq had WMDs?	Luminous Animal	Apr 2012	#154
There's gotta be someone out there reporting on this...	rl6214	Apr 2012	#155
So, when these guys showed up in AZ, where was RacheL?	Luminous Animal	Apr 2012	#157
I don't know what you are talking about...	rl6214	Apr 2012	#165
Dubious. Single source of story is a neo-nazi crackpot.	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#159
Indeed. And Sanford police have been doing a bang up job throughout this case!	Luminous Animal	Apr 2012	#160
According to Schoep, his men in Sanford are dressed in black.	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#161
They're a handful of attention whores at most aided by Fox News, sloppy journalists, and careless...	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#163
I agree	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#164
Jeff Schoep seems to be more of a publicity hound then anything else	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#162

Response to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:38 PM

anti-alec (420 posts)

1. If Sanford Police would like to right a wrong.

Begin arresting the Neo-Nazi thugs, starting with Zimmerman.

Armed neo-nazis patrolling Sanford...

1. If Sanford Police would like to right a wrong.

105. this is horrendous. good work, pug floridians. this will not end well.

2. I was just about to post this.

3. WTF??? n/t

4. They've started a civil war...

5. There is nothing at all

6. That's what started this sh!t to begin with....Here we go.

7. They need a new sheriff!

8. With the FBI in town?

9. I hate the Florida Nazis. n/t

12. I hate ALL Nazis. n/t

54. They're worse than Illinois Nazis...

10. Socialist movement????

13. If you are asking that was the official name of the Nazi party even though they were NOT socialists.

30. I doubt god will have any say in the matter. nt

38. Agreed

14. The original Nazis took over the disintigrating socialist party in Germany

58. I've been lurking the past couple months, but could not let this go unremarked. The original

98. Taking over the socialist party doesn't mean they were actually socialists.

110. The Socialist Party was alive and well at the

132. Yeah, they used "Socialist" to sell themselves to the public.

17. You need to read more on Mussolini and Hitler and their party's. n/t

20. National Socialism was the official name of the NAZI Party

23. "Socialist" in the same vein as "National Socialist Party" or Nazis

59. Fox is stealing a tactic from Hitler and his cronies who used to use 'Bolshevik' and 'Jew'

106. Every propaganda technique from that era has been used by FNN for years, shamelessly.

50. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

11. i fart in their general direction.

15. These Nazi freaks are praying for even the slightest opportunity to allow them to just

71. I believe they are hoping to exploit Flori-duh's insane gun laws to begin a race war

130. You mean another race war, though. Florida, like other states has a history of killing blacks.

16. I can only guess who's been fanning those flames of fear

21. I agree. eom

18. Black people let's just leave the US. We're not welcome.a

24. this is why some black people did and do leave the US

65. Noooooo!!!!

133. probably not going to leave for a while

146. You'd probably be able to find someplace cheap in Greece

37. And give the racists what they want? Black people have been fighting for this

64. You want Irony? The guy the that the City of Sanford was named for

19. Oh for god's sakes..neo-Nazi's? Nice way to diffuse a situation. eom

22. I wonder if GZ has direct ties to this group?

127. that makes more sense to me than

25. Scumbag assholes!

26. If you go to the link

27. Is "Commander" his legal first name?

33. Maybe

35. The NAZIs are paramilitary

39. I think IDemo was wondering why the Press

44. Because the Press will do that shit

41. That's how they style themselves, alright

48. And if you became part of a nooz story

51. Surprised he doesn't call himself

52. Tradition with the Nazi party

53. I'll admit to a dirty little secret, Ms Brzenzinski

83. Nadin

85. Too much reading

89. Na Zdrowie

90. You too, for us it's Passover.

92. no difference

93. I promise NOT to drink four cups of wine.

94. I don't drink either...

108. here

109. Thanks

148. yeah i know

156. wow.... nice to see you again

166. when they

167. Yeah well... fuck them. We know their game

43. I think the PRESS use of the word -- without quotes -- was the complaint here

45. AP style guide is all but clear on that one

86. It shows how seriously they take themselves

28. So then Jews and Minorities can open fire on them, correct?

29. why not advocate for the arrest of zimmerman instead?

61. Yeah, let's get a bunch of people together and stop all these vigilantes!

31. If Zimmerman had murdered a white child

32. Damn, what is the best way to make scum like this a thing of the past?

47. They have to die childless

56. They are a thing of the past. I can't find any place in history "they" haven't

147. I think maybe it's option 2...