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mr blur

(7,753 posts)
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:31 PM Jul 2014

“If the government thinks you’re the single point of failure, they’ll kill you.” Snowden interview

Guardian interview with Edward Snowden:

<snip>

The past year

It’s been unexpected and challenging but it’s been encouraging. It’s been energising to see the reaction from the public. It’s been vindicating to see the reaction from lawmakers, judges, public bodies around the world, civil liberties activists who have said it’s true that we have a right to at least know the broad outlines of what our government’s doing in our name and what it’s doing against us.

Being able to be a part of that, even if it’s a small part, has been, I think, the most rewarding work of my life.

<snip>


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/-sp-edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-interview-transcript
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“If the government thinks you’re the single point of failure, they’ll kill you.” Snowden interview (Original Post) mr blur Jul 2014 OP
Dramatic hyperbole MohRokTah Jul 2014 #1
From another hero, like Ellsberg, Binney, Drake and the long line of Whistle Blowers who keep sabrina 1 Jul 2014 #2
Criticizing something you haven't read is kind of a stupid thing to do. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #4
I needed to read nothing more than the title MohRokTah Jul 2014 #6
Again, you've announced to this entire website you can't be bothered to read something... Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #8
I am entitled to criticize MohRokTah Jul 2014 #9
... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #12
Nance! pleinair Jul 2014 #14
Thanks ... NanceGreggs Jul 2014 #21
appreciate your viewpoint pleinair Jul 2014 #44
. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author brisas2k Jul 2014 #42
It makes me wonder.... brisas2k Jul 2014 #43
No, actually, you're not. You're entitled to make a fool of yourself if you want, sure. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #13
Wow, did you see what you just did to yourself? MohRokTah Jul 2014 #17
I know you didn't even bother to click on the link. That's how little effort you've put into this. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #20
. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #26
Ah ROFL smiley Union Scribe Jul 2014 #35
. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #36
And the first. Regularly on DU. There is an actual 'peacenik' on American Conservative Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #37
Yup. WovenGems Jul 2014 #16
"someone important is protected...by the public eye." - Except for anyone operating covertly. Gravitycollapse Jul 2014 #22
The US assassinates people all over the world. Even in allied countries. Read 'Dirty Wars'. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #38
Uh-oh! Be afraid. Be very, very afraid. You've obviously pissed off Manning, Ellsberg, Drake, ASS- Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #5
Yeah, didn't take long MohRokTah Jul 2014 #7
And you've probably pissed off "50 million US households" to boot. Be very..very...afraid. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2014 #11
You owe it to yourself to read the entire interview; it's excellent and Snowden Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #10
I have no interest in anything that stupid bastard has to say. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #19
If you let one sentence that you disagree with automatically eliminate an entire interview Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #23
I didn't elimiate his stupid shit, he did. eom MohRokTah Jul 2014 #28
Snowden didn't eliminate it, he gave an excellent, extended interview, you eliminated the entire Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #30
Maybe he was afraid that by the end of the interview, Snowden would shoot himself in the balls. randome Jul 2014 #31
I've tried to reassure the poster that Snowden didn't shoot himself in the balls or anywhere else, Uncle Joe Jul 2014 #32
Au contraire hootinholler Jul 2014 #49
It is. Truly a great interview. Luminous Animal Jul 2014 #40
you sound a little jealous of him. nt grasswire Jul 2014 #24
. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #25
is he talking about Russia ? JI7 Jul 2014 #3
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jul 2014 #15
The S&G Show -now in its 2nd fantabulous season! randome Jul 2014 #27
What a clown alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #29
I find it very interesting that so many DUers are attacking Snowden here. Do they really think ... Scuba Jul 2014 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #48
Poor Snowden.. he let it slip about his benefactor pootie fucking putin. Cha Jul 2014 #34
I got a good laugh out of that statement flamingdem Jul 2014 #45
Sounds like he's bored out of his skull and definitely needs his fans to Cha Jul 2014 #46
Da! flamingdem Jul 2014 #47
Our government? Our freedom loving government? Kill people? Perish the thought. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #39
K&R - Excellent interview. pa28 Jul 2014 #41
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. Dramatic hyperbole
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:33 PM
Jul 2014

This guy just can't stop himself from going over the top. I read his statement in the thread title and knew it was useless to read any further.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
2. From another hero, like Ellsberg, Binney, Drake and the long line of Whistle Blowers who keep
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:37 PM
Jul 2014

this country from losing its democracy. And probably far from the last.

Thank you Snowden, Manning and all the others who have the courage to do what is right no matter what the consequences may be to themselves. Most of us do not have that kind of courage.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
6. I needed to read nothing more than the title
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jul 2014

That one stupid lie from Snowden automatically invalidates everything else.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
8. Again, you've announced to this entire website you can't be bothered to read something...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:47 PM
Jul 2014

Yet feel entitled to criticize it.

No one here is forcing you to read the story. However, not reading the story and then feeling as though you are entitled to talk about it is patently absurd.

Until you read the story, whatever your opinion is of it is irrelevant and all you're doing is embarrassing yourself.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. I am entitled to criticize
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:51 PM
Jul 2014

Just as you are entitled to criticize me.

Making an idiotic statement about the government killing you automatically invalidates anything the stupid bastard has to say.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
12. ...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jul 2014
"Making an idiotic statement about the government killing you automatically invalidates anything the stupid bastard has to say."

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
21. Thanks ...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:24 PM
Jul 2014

... but I'm not really "back" - no OPs, no editorials - just weighing-in on the Snowden/Greenwald threads from time to time.

I have found it fascinating to watch people who have always prided themselves on their "healthy skepticism" now abandoning all skepticism when it comes to anything and everything that ES/GG have to say.

Ironically enough, most of them are people who constantly accused Obama supporters of "believing everything Obama says" - but when it comes to their idols, they swallow everything whole and will not tolerate anyone questioning the veracity of their statements, or their motives.

It's been a lesson in how cult-like thinking takes hold, watching those who once demanded proof of everything now not so much as raising a question about anything.

Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #12)

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
13. No, actually, you're not. You're entitled to make a fool of yourself if you want, sure.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:06 PM
Jul 2014

But you're not entitled to actively participate in critiquing an article you've never read. With every post you make, you further impose inappropriately into a discussion you couldn't possibly understand because you never bothered to read the source material.

I want to be clear here when I say there's nothing flattering about being intellectually lazy. If you want to talk about a subject, respect those who want to participate in the discussion by knowing what you're talking about.


Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
20. I know you didn't even bother to click on the link. That's how little effort you've put into this.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:24 PM
Jul 2014

You didn't even bother to click on the link for the story.

You can't be even bothered to open a link in your browser. Do you understand the sheer laziness of such inaction?

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
37. And the first. Regularly on DU. There is an actual 'peacenik' on American Conservative
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:19 PM
Jul 2014

that argues for peace, not from a noninterventionist stance but from a diplomacy stance. His essays are intelligent and provocative. And I don't dare post them here.

LOL. The closing of the liberal mind.

WovenGems

(776 posts)
16. Yup.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:12 PM
Jul 2014

Only someone who is important is assassinated. And someone important is protected, to a degree, by the public eye. The scandal about the phone companies handing over data has been blown way out of proportion.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
22. "someone important is protected...by the public eye." - Except for anyone operating covertly.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:26 PM
Jul 2014

Like undercover agents and employees of covert agencies.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,211 posts)
5. Uh-oh! Be afraid. Be very, very afraid. You've obviously pissed off Manning, Ellsberg, Drake, ASS-
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:41 PM
Jul 2014

ange, et al.

Uncle Joe

(58,112 posts)
10. You owe it to yourself to read the entire interview; it's excellent and Snowden
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jul 2014

makes many profound, substantial points.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
19. I have no interest in anything that stupid bastard has to say.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:22 PM
Jul 2014

He lost me at "the government will kill you".

That's some prime idiocy right there.

Uncle Joe

(58,112 posts)
23. If you let one sentence that you disagree with automatically eliminate an entire interview
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:30 PM
Jul 2014

you're selling yourself short to a much larger truth.

Uncle Joe

(58,112 posts)
30. Snowden didn't eliminate it, he gave an excellent, extended interview, you eliminated the entire
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:48 PM
Jul 2014

interview to yourself, by not reading it because of one sentence; that upset you.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
31. Maybe he was afraid that by the end of the interview, Snowden would shoot himself in the balls.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jul 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

Uncle Joe

(58,112 posts)
32. I've tried to reassure the poster that Snowden didn't shoot himself in the balls or anywhere else,
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jul 2014

but that his aim was true.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
49. Au contraire
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 11:14 AM
Jul 2014

Your participation on all these threads demonstrates you have a great interest. The remaining question I wonder about is if your fascination is personal or professional.

The fact is that the Government will kill you. To think otherwise is naive. Many convenient suicides and accidents in our history, if you've been paying attention.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. The S&G Show -now in its 2nd fantabulous season!
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 08:39 PM
Jul 2014

I was a little disappointed that Season 1 didn't end with a cliffhanger. Oh, well.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
33. I find it very interesting that so many DUers are attacking Snowden here. Do they really think ...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:00 PM
Jul 2014

... that their pathetic diversions will quash the truth? Do they really thing that our government doesn't kill people who get in the way?

Response to Scuba (Reply #33)

Cha

(295,929 posts)
34. Poor Snowden.. he let it slip about his benefactor pootie fucking putin.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:01 PM
Jul 2014
What's the matter.. real fucking hard news taking away the attention from you? Don't worry.. your adoring fans are always here for you, idiot.

flamingdem

(39,304 posts)
45. I got a good laugh out of that statement
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 11:45 PM
Jul 2014

Snowden has been watching reruns over there of Mission Impossible in between RT reports.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
46. Sounds like he's bored out of his skull and definitely needs his fans to
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:04 AM
Jul 2014

stroke his ego. Looky over here at me.. "chains-Guantanamo" "Kill" "poor me" "tired of Borscht" "Putin's better than Obama.. trust me "

Na Zdorovie!

flamingdem

(39,304 posts)
47. Da!
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:10 AM
Jul 2014



I guess he's entertainment for bored Russians. Loook eets Mr. Snowdane at the grozery schtore!



 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
39. Our government? Our freedom loving government? Kill people? Perish the thought.
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jul 2014

Well...maybe, a few million people..now and then...occassionally...only when they threaten our "vital national intere$t$"...and only after a fair trial...except when they don't deserve one...

Never mind.

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