| Author | Time | Post | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | OP | |
| WilliamPitt | Apr 2012 | #1 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #3 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #2 | |
| onehandle | Apr 2012 | #4 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #6 | |
| MrScorpio | Apr 2012 | #5 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #7 | |
| Marrah_G | Apr 2012 | #8 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #10 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #12 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #15 | |
| pinboy3niner | Apr 2012 | #9 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #11 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #13 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #19 | |
| Are_grits_groceries | Apr 2012 | #14 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #16 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #17 | |
| Are_grits_groceries | Apr 2012 | #18 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #20 | |
| A HERETIC I AM | Apr 2012 | #23 | |
| malthaussen | Apr 2012 | #21 | |
| Blue_Tires | Apr 2012 | #24 | |
| malthaussen | Apr 2012 | #26 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #28 | |
| nadinbrzezinski | Apr 2012 | #29 | |
| hack89 | Apr 2012 | #30 | |
| malthaussen | Apr 2012 | #31 | |
| CJCRANE | Apr 2012 | #22 | |
| Blue_Tires | Apr 2012 | #25 | |
| malaise | Apr 2012 | #27 |
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:49 PM
WilliamPitt (54,468 posts)
1. Damn
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I remember being at VA beach and watching the fighters race-tracking over the town all day.
Not good. |
Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #1)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:53 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
3. Word is that the pilots ejected
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but the apartment complex (Mayfair Mews) is on fire. No word on safety of pilots
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:51 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
2. Live stream
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:56 PM
onehandle (35,364 posts)
4. Screen shot. Not good...
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Response to onehandle (Reply #4)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:58 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
6. CNN has live coverage as well
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Damn! Hope no one was home
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:57 PM
MrScorpio (55,301 posts)
5. Oh, my fucking God
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Not good, not good at all.
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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #5)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:00 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
7. Pilots safe - gone to hospital with minor injuries
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Last edited Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) No injuries on the ground but they have not been able to access apartment complex
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Response to malaise (Reply #7)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:04 PM
Marrah_G (22,370 posts)
8. Yikes
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I hope no one was home. Even if no one is there, I can't imagine with jet fuel involved that there will be anything left of the building or their possessions.
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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #8)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:11 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
10. Given the easter school holidays I am sure there were people at home
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Damn!!
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Response to malaise (Reply #10)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:13 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,093 posts)
12. And Passover.
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Gluten allergy. I no longer make that dinner, but take my word, it is time consuming.
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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:22 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
15. Indeed two big holidays
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Hope the casualties are few.
We don't celebrate religious holidays but I'll be stuffing a 5lb snapper for Sunday dinner anyway. I deboned and seasoned it when I brought it home fresh yesterday and froze it in a baking pan wrapped in a ziplock bag. I'll make the broth and stuffing on Sunday morning and bake some new potatoes whole. |
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:08 PM
pinboy3niner (27,422 posts)
9. Witness on CNN said one bldg 'flattened'
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And others set ablaze by flaming debris ejected from crash.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:12 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,093 posts)
11. Building on fire
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According to witness on msnbc. This is an apartment / condo building. Two story.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:15 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,093 posts)
13. Too early but once they got fire out
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There will be collapse confined space rescue. Good news...Virginia Beach has one if the top teams in the world...and right now they are not deployed...so if people are alive, they have the best chance of extrication.
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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #13)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:31 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
19. Sounds like only one pilot ejected
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Damn
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:19 PM
Are_grits_groceries (12,548 posts)
14. Another pic:
Damn! ![]() |
Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #14)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:22 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
16. How big is the F18?
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I'm clueless
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Response to malaise (Reply #16)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:26 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,093 posts)
17. Larger than a Cesna
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Think as size is concerned, a small commercial jet...you are seeing the two GE engines there.
The problem is it was fully fueled. And we do not know if this was just a flight, training unit, or if it was also loaded with practice or live ammo... Practice, non explosive, live...explosive. Oh JP 5 is nasty. |
Response to malaise (Reply #16)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:28 PM
Are_grits_groceries (12,548 posts)
18. Some info:
General Characteristics, Super Hornet, E and F models Primary Function: Multi-role attack and fighter aircraft. Contractor: McDonnell Douglas. Date Deployed: First flight in November 1995. Initial Operational Capability (IOC) in September 2001 with VFA-115, NAS Lemoore, Calif. First cruise for VFA-115 is onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. Unit Cost: $57 million Propulsion: Two F414-GE-400 turbofan engines. 22,000 pounds (9,977 kg) static thrust per engine. Length: 60.3 feet (18.5 meters). Height: 16 feet (4.87 meters). Wingspan: 44.9 feet (13.68 meters). Weight: Maximum Take Off Gross Weight is 66,000 pounds (29,932 kg). Airspeed: Mach 1.8+. Ceiling: 50,000+ feet. Range: Combat: 1,275 nautical miles (2,346 kilometers), clean plus two AIM-9s Ferry: 1,660 nautical miles (3,054 kilometers), two AIM-9s, three 480 gallon tanks retained. Crew: A, C and E models: One B, D and F models: Two. Armament: One M61A1/A2 Vulcan 20mm cannon; AIM 9 Sidewinder, AIM-9X (projected), AIM 7 Sparrow, AIM-120 AMRAAM, Harpoon, Harm, SLAM, SLAM-ER (projected), Maverick missiles; Joint Stand-Off Weapon (JSOW); Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM); Data Link Pod; Paveway Laser Guided Bomb; various general purpose bombs, mines and rockets. See the F/A-18 weapons load-out page. http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=1100&tid=1200&ct=1 ![]() |
Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #18)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:43 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
20. Thanks
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Did I hear someone on CNN say several seniors lived there?
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Response to malaise (Reply #16)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 02:07 PM
A HERETIC I AM (10,215 posts)
23. About as big as a tractor trailer
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The fuselage, anyway
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:43 PM
malthaussen (2,218 posts)
21. I'll just say this
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I live two blocks from a former Navy Reserve Air Station. Back in '89, a pilot had a flameout in his A-4 over the residential area across the street from the base. He did not eject, but crashed it himself, taking out part of a house but injuring nobody.
Maybe it was the WSO who ejected, and the pilot stayed with the plane? -- Mal |
Response to malthaussen (Reply #21)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 02:11 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)
24. both pilots got out; being treated for injuries
Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #24)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 02:24 PM
malthaussen (2,218 posts)
26. So, we'll wait for the Board of Inquiry
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... to see if there was dereliction of duty.
-- Mal |
Response to malthaussen (Reply #26)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:09 PM
malaise (105,891 posts)
28. An eyewitness says below the wing was in fire before it crashed
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Does not appear to be dereliction of duty - they may have actually avoided a school.
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Response to malthaussen (Reply #26)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:29 PM
nadinbrzezinski (120,093 posts)
29. And mechanical failure
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Same family of bird went down here in La Jolla. Pilot ejected, zero stick control. He lost hyfraulics.
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Response to malthaussen (Reply #21)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:33 PM
hack89 (21,220 posts)
30. If the pilot had no control of the plane
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then there is no implied obligation to stay with the plane.
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Response to hack89 (Reply #30)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:37 PM
malthaussen (2,218 posts)
31. Agreed.
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Which is why I'm interested in what the Board will find.
-- Mal |
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:49 PM
CJCRANE (13,310 posts)
22. Chopper cam on WAVY TV
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appears to show three two storey buildings completely burned out, and two buildings with the roofs taken off at the entrance to the complex.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 02:14 PM
Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)


