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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:29 PM

Star Member steve2470 (14,742 posts)

"Shaken Baby Syndrome" used in defense of Trayvon Martin's killer

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/06/us-usa-florida-shooting-idUSBRE8350D520120406

(Reuters) - "Shaken Baby Syndrome" was cited on Friday in the defense of George Zimmerman, the Sanford, Florida, man who shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, in a case that has sparked a widespread public outcry.

Hal Uhrig, a lawyer and former Gainesville, Florida, police officer who recently joined Zimmerman's defense team, cited in a TV interview the brain damage that can seriously injure or kill an infant.

His point, which has been made before, was that Zimmerman contends he shot Martin in self defense and feared for his life after the 17-year-old attacked him and began pounding his head into the concrete pavement of a gated community on a rainy evening in Sanford on February 26.

But Uhrig's choice of words, and use of a recognized sign of child abuse to defend a 28-year-old man who killed a kid, seemed likely to raise more than just a few eyebrows.

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Reply "Shaken Baby Syndrome" used in defense of Trayvon Martin's killer (Original post)
 steve2470 Apr 2012 OP
LineReply I'm expecting the Twinkie Defense next. nt
 MrScorpio Apr 2012 #1
LineLineReply Sadly that one worked.
 Mz Pip Apr 2012 #11
LineLineReply Here it is, and the only thing missing is the Twinkie itself
 Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #17
LineLineNew Reply No, the Chewbacca Defense
 Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #23
LineLineLineNew Reply Yup...
 SidDithers Apr 2012 #27
LineReply Ridiculous defense IMO. n/t
 RKP5637 Apr 2012 #2
LineReply Oh Geez...
 Spazito Apr 2012 #3
LineReply absurd-
 Bluerthanblue Apr 2012 #4
LineReply Is that the best legal defense money can buy?
 no_hypocrisy Apr 2012 #5
LineReply Shaken baby? How about shaken psychokiller? nt
 Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #6
LineReply In this rewrite are we going for an insanity plea???
 wandy Apr 2012 #7
LineReply Looks like another lousy headline to me.
 elleng Apr 2012 #8
LineReply Dafuq?? I had to read this through a number of times...SHAKEN BABY SYNDROME??!! So now,
 Ecumenist Apr 2012 #9
LineReply This gives me a good sense that justice will come
 SteveABG Apr 2012 #10
LineReply My friend Laura was shaken when she was little and she hasn't murdered anyone! Idiotic defense!
 Odin2005 Apr 2012 #12
LineReply I'll say it yet again: before its over they will
 Solomon Apr 2012 #13
LineLineReply before it's over Trayvon will have shot himself
 NatBurner Apr 2012 #16
LineLineLineReply " I got me."
 Solomon Apr 2012 #18
LineLineLineLineNew Reply LOL n/t
 coeur_de_lion Apr 2012 #26
LineReply Heck yeh, that one will fly with a jury
 peace frog Apr 2012 #14
LineReply Wait, so he was shaken as a baby? Or he was afraid of getting shaken baby syndrome and pulled out
 Brickbat Apr 2012 #15
LineLineReply No. The lawyer was saying he got shaken baby syndrome
 Solomon Apr 2012 #19
LineNew Reply Bizarre.
 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #20
LineNew Reply Funny. He doesn't look like a baby to me.
 Cleita Apr 2012 #21
LineNew Reply Well, George is a baby. He's a cry baby.
 yardwork Apr 2012 #22
LineNew Reply kick for evening crowd nt
 steve2470 Apr 2012 #24
LineNew Reply Dear heavenly father. "Shaken Baby Syndrome"????
 w8liftinglady Apr 2012 #25
LineLineNew Reply And doesn't this occur b/c a baby's skull has extra space in it?
 Iris Apr 2012 #28
LineNew Reply till more BS crap.....Zimmer is guilty of murder in my book...
 opihimoimoi Apr 2012 #29

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:30 PM

Star Member MrScorpio (55,318 posts)

1. I'm expecting the Twinkie Defense next. nt

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:13 PM

Star Member Mz Pip (23,809 posts)

11. Sadly that one worked.

This one could, too. Yes, it's preposterous. Zimmermann is no baby.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:35 PM

Amerigo Vespucci (30,707 posts)

17. Here it is, and the only thing missing is the Twinkie itself

Same URL as O.P.

"He didn't commit any crime."

If it goes to trial, Uhrig said he and his fellow defense attorney, would defend Zimmerman under the Stand Your Ground statute.

"He didn't commit any crime," Uhrig said on CBS. "He was attacked, broke his nose, hit his head into the ground and he defended himself. That's not against the law."If it goes to trial, Uhrig said he and his fellow defense attorney, would defend Zimmerman under the Stand Your Ground statute.

"He didn't commit any crime," Uhrig said on CBS. "He was attacked, broke his nose, hit his head into the ground and he defended himself. That's not against the law."

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:19 PM

Star Member Canuckistanian (42,211 posts)

23. No, the Chewbacca Defense

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:21 PM

Star Member SidDithers (27,151 posts)

27. Yup...



Sid

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:33 PM

Star Member RKP5637 (25,626 posts)

2. Ridiculous defense IMO. n/t

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:36 PM

Star Member Spazito (26,463 posts)

3. Oh Geez...

beyond pathetic.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:38 PM

Star Member Bluerthanblue (13,668 posts)

4. absurd-

next it'll be the lyrics on some song on Trayvon's ipod filtering through to Zimmermans brain.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:39 PM

no_hypocrisy (25,300 posts)

5. Is that the best legal defense money can buy?

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:41 PM

Sarah Ibarruri (18,667 posts)

6. Shaken baby? How about shaken psychokiller? nt

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:43 PM

Star Member wandy (1,536 posts)

7. In this rewrite are we going for an insanity plea???

Let's see here. No charges. No evidence kept. No first hand investigation. 'Enhanced' video.
Still we set up for an insanity plea by virtue of "Shaken Baby Syndrome".

Will they keep rewriting this story until George Zimmerman is portrayed as an abused child turned suburban hero?
What are these people trying to prove?
Possably that stand you're ground laws are a good thing?
I do not think we will ever find out what realy happened.


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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:54 PM

Star Member elleng (40,558 posts)

8. Looks like another lousy headline to me.

'Counsel' mentioned this in a TV interview, right???

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 12:55 PM

Star Member Ecumenist (5,646 posts)

9. Dafuq?? I had to read this through a number of times...SHAKEN BABY SYNDROME??!! So now,

he has detached retinas, bleeding in the brain and all the bells and whistles that go along with shaken BABYsyndrome. NOT shaken 28 F@CKING YEAR OLD, PSYCHOPATHIC LYING MURDERER syndrome. This is beyond crazy...what's next? Zimmerman had a miscarraige as a result of the beating Trayvon gave him? REALLY??!!!

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:10 PM

SteveABG (127 posts)

10. This gives me a good sense that justice will come

Since Zimmerman can't seem to get anyone but this group of total hacks to mount his defense, his legal outlook doesn't look promising.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:13 PM

Odin2005 (48,255 posts)

12. My friend Laura was shaken when she was little and she hasn't murdered anyone! Idiotic defense!

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:25 PM

Solomon (8,956 posts)

13. I'll say it yet again: before its over they will

say the gun went off accidentally.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 02:07 PM

NatBurner (2,482 posts)

16. before it's over Trayvon will have shot himself

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:42 PM

Solomon (8,956 posts)

18. " I got me."

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:20 PM

Star Member coeur_de_lion (1,172 posts)

26. LOL n/t

N/T

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:57 PM

Star Member peace frog (5,550 posts)

14. Heck yeh, that one will fly with a jury

Like a lead balloon, baby.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:58 PM

Brickbat (14,439 posts)

15. Wait, so he was shaken as a baby? Or he was afraid of getting shaken baby syndrome and pulled out

his gun? I can't even figure this out.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:44 PM

Solomon (8,956 posts)

19. No. The lawyer was saying he got shaken baby syndrome

when Trayvon was bashing his head on the sidewalk.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:49 PM

nadinbrzezinski (120,432 posts)

20. Bizarre.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:51 PM

Cleita (64,556 posts)

21. Funny. He doesn't look like a baby to me.

What an absurd defense.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:00 PM

Star Member yardwork (37,076 posts)

22. Well, George is a baby. He's a cry baby.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:14 PM

Star Member steve2470 (14,742 posts)

24. kick for evening crowd nt

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:44 PM

Star Member w8liftinglady (23,014 posts)

25. Dear heavenly father. "Shaken Baby Syndrome"????

Here are the symptoms of "Shaken Adult Syndrome"




http://emj.bmj.com/content/17/2/144.full.pdf

1.He would have had intraocular hemorrhaging that would probably still be evident.
2.He would have had patterned bruising to both upper extremeties.
3.He would have SOME sort of subdural hematoma..easily diagnosed by CT.

Yet ANOTHER reason the man should have been evaluated by an ER doc before going to the Police Station.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:25 PM

Star Member Iris (13,879 posts)

28. And doesn't this occur b/c a baby's skull has extra space in it?

I may be totally off-base here, but I thought that was why it could happen - the brain hasn't grown to fit the skull, making it vulnerable to shaking.

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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:26 PM

opihimoimoi (52,426 posts)

29. till more BS crap.....Zimmer is guilty of murder in my book...

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