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Sun Jun 22, 2014, 12:21 AM

Miami police kill 2 unarmed suspects by shooting disabled car 377 times

Miami police kill 2 unarmed suspects by shooting disabled car 377 times





MIAMI, FL — In perhaps the largest case of contagious fire on record, a suspect’s vehicle was riddled with hundreds of bullets in a chaotic and frenzied show of police force following a pursuit. Witnesses emphatically said that the vehicle’s 2 occupants were trying to surrender, but that did not stop a total of 23 police officers from firing at least 377 shots at the vehicle. The officers’ wild volleys of bullets struck not only the suspects, but also neighboring houses, businesses, vehicles — even fellow police officers.

A robbery suspect, Adrian Montesano, had his vehicle pinned between a utility pole and a tree following a pursuit at approximately 5:00 a.m.

As the blue Volvo remained stationary, officers aimed their rifles towards it from every angle. For nearly 2 minutes, officers tensely waited with weapons aimed.

Suddenly, one of the officers opened fire. The gunshots caused other officers to join in. Roughly 50 shots were fired at once.


http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/adrian-montesano/

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Reply Miami police kill 2 unarmed suspects by shooting disabled car 377 times (Original post)
FreakinDJ Jun 22 OP
bravenak Jun 22 #1
Cali_Democrat Jun 22 #2
rhett o rick Jun 22 #3
xocet Jun 22 #12
NutmegYankee Jun 22 #22
BuelahWitch Jun 22 #4
Lancero Jun 22 #6
alittlelark Jun 22 #7
Jenoch Jun 22 #11
xocet Jun 22 #13
Jenoch Jun 22 #31
socialist_n_TN Jun 22 #36
Jenoch Jun 22 #37
socialist_n_TN Jun 22 #40
Jenoch Jun 22 #41
marble falls Jun 22 #5
blackspade Jun 22 #8
ErikJ Jun 22 #9
NutmegYankee Jun 22 #21
rhett o rick Jun 22 #28
ErikJ Jun 22 #32
pediatricmedic Jun 22 #35
ErikJ Jun 22 #38
bearssoapbox Jun 22 #10
ErikJ Jun 22 #33
Comrade Grumpy Jun 22 #39
Rstrstx Jun 22 #14
jmowreader Jun 22 #15
dilby Jun 22 #16
Ghost in the Machine Jun 22 #17
geomon666 Jun 22 #18
Ghost in the Machine Jun 22 #20
Lochloosa Jun 22 #24
geomon666 Jun 22 #30
geomon666 Jun 22 #19
damnedifIknow Jun 22 #23
Baitball Blogger Jun 22 #25
Duckhunter935 Jun 22 #26
Gravitycollapse Jun 22 #42
Gravitycollapse Jun 22 #43
Jamastiene Jun 22 #27
aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 22 #29
Liberal_in_LA Jun 22 #34

Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 12:58 AM

1. Fucking police state!nt

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:14 AM

2. K&R to the greatest

for exposure...

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:18 AM

3. I dont understand the idea of shooting so many rounds. It's insanity. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:05 AM

12. Possibly, revenge....The person they were chasing shot a policeman earlier that morning....

Who knows, though. It is complete insanity. That whole group should have their badges taken away.


Police Shooting Frenzy Raises Concerns
May 6, 2014 11:23 PM
Jim DeFede

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But what police didn’t realize before they started shooting at the Volvo is there was a second man in the car – Corsini Valdes – who had committed no crime.

And in fact, as CBS4 News was the first to report, both men inside the Volvo were unarmed at the time police caught up with them. All of the gunfire came from police.

Montesano and Valdes were killed by the dozens of rounds that tore through their bodies.

But Montesano and Valdes weren’t the only ones struck – two Miami Dade police officers were hit as well – caught in the crossfire. One officer was shot in the arm and the second was hit in the arm and grazed in the head. If the bullet had struck just a half an inch to the side the officer would have been killed.

...

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/05/06/police-shooting-frenzy-raises-concerns/


Here is a different news source with an earlier take on what happened:


3 officers shot in Northwest Miami-Dade; 2 people killed in shootout
Posted on Tuesday, 12.10.13

BY CARLI TEPROFF, DAVID OVALLE, CHARLES RABIN AND EVAN S. BENN

Adrian Montesano’s friend and business partner was trying to figure out what caused the young man to snap on Tuesday, when Montesano allegedly stormed a Miami-Dade drugstore at gunpoint, then shot multiple police officers, stole a patrol car, and wrecked another vehicle before police shot him and another man dead in a hail of bullets.

“I watched it all go down on TV, just like everyone else,” said Manny Quiros, who for the past six years has owned a small air-conditioning business with Montesano called Montesa Solutions. Quiros said he had been friends with Montesano for more than a decade. “All I can say is, he’s a good guy, and I have no idea why he did what they’re saying he did.”

Police said Montesano, 27, the son of longtime Hialeah internist and real-estate developer Dr. Jesus Montesano, led them on a morning manhunt through Miami-Dade County. The incident left six officers injured — three with gunshot wounds — and ended in an ear-splitting shootout near Northwest 27th Avenue and 65th Street.

“It was like a war. I just kept hearing shots,” said Louise Lester, who lives in the Jolivette public-housing complex near the fatal shooting scene.

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http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/10/3809575/3-officers-shot-in-northwest-miami.html#storylink=cpy

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:09 AM

22. Police officers often keep firing until they empty the pistol magazine.

With anywhere from 12 to 16 rounds apiece, it adds up when a large group is firing.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:22 AM

4. Twenty-three? Twenty-three police officers chasing one car? n/t

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Response to BuelahWitch (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:55 AM

6. Must have robbed a donut shop.

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Response to Lancero (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 02:05 AM

7. DUzy !!

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Response to Lancero (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:00 AM

11. Obviously, the cops reacted with too

much emotion and were wrong to do so. The car was not owned by the driver, it was owned by his grandmother. The drive robbed a Walgreen's, shot and killed a cop, stole his squad car, drove to grandma's house, left the squad there, and stole grandma's car. When there is a police chase involving an auto being driven by a cop killer, things can easily get out of control. I don't like what happened in this case either, especially the cop being killed.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:13 AM

13. One problem with your analysis is that the officer who was shot did not die and was released

from the hospital:

Officer shot by robbery suspect released from hospital
Saul Rodriguez out of hospital
Author: Ben Candea
Published On: Dec 16 2013 02:23:09 PM EST

Saul Rodriguez spent several days in the hospital after his confrontation with Adrian Montesano on Dec. 10.

Montesano, 27, tried robbing a Walgreens in the early morning hours, say investigators. After he left, he shot Rodriguez at a nearby trailer park and stole his patrol car.

...

Two other police officers suffered gunshot wounds. They have since been treated and released.


http://www.local10.com/news/officer-shot-by-robbery-suspect-released-from-hospital/23510854

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Response to xocet (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:57 AM

31. You are correct, of course,

but my analysis is still spot on because the cops in that chase were unaware that he would survive. All they knew is that the driver shot a cop. The emotional reaction would be the same.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:45 PM

36. So we the publc should be at the mercy of the "...emotional reaction..."

of people who have a license to kill with impunity?

And what about the OTHER unarmed man in the car? Quite possibly he was just out on a drive with a friend when gunned down by people who will never pay ANY price for his death.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:48 PM

37. Absolutely not.

I gave already said what the cops did was wrong. The passenger should have chosen a better friend.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #37)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 05:09 PM

40. "The passenger should have chosen a better friend"..........

WTF????? That's a ridiculous statement. Apparently the alleged perpetrator was a pretty nice guy according to reports from people who had known him for YEARS. I would imagine that he probably had quite a few friends. So should they be executed because they happened to be with him?

So if one of your buddies goes around the bend one day, will you think YOU should have "...chosen a better friend"?

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #40)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 05:18 PM

41. I already said the cops were wrong.

In most of these situations the guys that rob drug stores and shoot cops are not "pretty nice guys". I wonder what his priors were?

It seems to me that whenever a serial rapost or killer is caught the neighbors always say 'he seemed like such a nice guy'.

FYI there are a lot of criminals who "have a lot of friends".

If I had a buddy who robbed a drugstore and shot a cop and he picked me up while he was on the run from the cops and I did not get killed I would think WTF? And I would then think, "man, I gotta get beter friends".

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:53 AM

5. I hate the police. Disarm the police.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 02:22 AM

8. More police homicide.

And nothing will happen. It was a 'tragic accident'.....

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 02:38 AM

9. Blame the NRA. If I were a cop I'd be paranoid too these days.

Its like a domestic arms race between the arsenalist nuts and the cops.

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Response to ErikJ (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:02 AM

21. You are wrong. It's the War on Drugs.

The guns in civilian hands haven't gotten more powerful since the 1960's. What has made cops start dressing like the SuperSoldats from a Wolfenstein game has been the decision to kick down doors with no-knock warrants, thereby significantly raising the level of potential conflict. As a result, sometimes due to incompetence like raiding the wrong address, innocent people are shot to death and dogs routinely shot, often in the back. At the correct address, the same occurs but also among the fallen have been children shot in the back with a shotgun (while laying on the floor) and a little girl and a baby blown up with flashbangs. Now we the people would like to believe that the District Attorney would hold these reckless negligent public servants accountable, but in nearly every case they are found innocent and the shooting is "justified".

So now you have a police culture where you can just shoot someone, make up any story you want, and never get charged or fired. It's not paranoia - they just have a license to kill.

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Response to ErikJ (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:39 AM

28. No way. The police are killing innocent men, women, children and dogs. It's a war on The People. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #28)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 12:47 PM

32. You never know who is armed with AK-47 arsenal these days

Thats why cops have to be heavily armed and armored.
Would YOU want to kick in the door of a house when u think you could be greeted by a hail of armor piercing bullets or a bomb? If it were me I would demand a GD tank.

We had a situation here last week where the cops had to explode a bomb in the guys house to try to drive him out and it broke all the neighbors windows. They used robots and everything available. The cops went inside those neighbors houses for cover while shooting into his house. After all that it was discovered he wasnt even there. It turns out he didnt even have much of an arsenal but they did find the missing person they were looking for buried in his backyard.

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Response to ErikJ (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:08 PM

35. Sorry, not blaming the NRA for this

The NRA isn't causing the police to dress like super soldiers and think of the general population as an enemy army to be killed. The war on drugs seems to have played a big part along with the so called war on terror.

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Response to pediatricmedic (Reply #35)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:07 PM

38. Rightwing gun-nuts are the #1 domestic terrorist threat

THe DHS says that lone RW gunnuts are now the biggest domestic tterrorism threat. Thanks partly to the NRA.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 02:40 AM

10. When did this?



Seems they are getting more out of control every year.



They are nothing like they were 25-30 yrs. ago. Although it seems to have gotten much worse starting about 15 yrs. ago. To militaristic now.



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Response to bearssoapbox (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 12:49 PM

33. With all the heavily armed nuts out there now this is what happens. Blame the NRA

I would demand a tank if I were a cop these days.

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Response to ErikJ (Reply #33)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 04:15 PM

39. No. The police are responsible for their actions. Or at least, they should be.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:20 AM

14. Good Lord, that looks worse than a Mexican cartel shootout

And those cartels have even more powerful weapons (we should know, we helped supply them)

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:26 AM

15. They only fired 130 rounds into Bonnie and Clyde's car

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:31 AM

16. So it takes 23 cops and 377 bullets to stop two unarmed men?

God I hope I never have an armed man break into my home because if I am waiting for the cops to save me, I am probably better off just stabbing myself.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:47 AM

17. Some Miami Cops are cool, but most are crooked. I knew about the "Miami River Cops" before the

real cops did. http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1988-09-24/news/8802240596_1_police-officer-river-cops-indictment

My cousin and I were cruising through Overtown one night, looking to score some weed. Overtown was the best example of inner-city decay at the time, and most cops were even afraid to go in there after dark. Well, we come around the corner, I'm driving my Dade Cable van (this was before Storer Cable bought Dade Cable out... I cussed Peter Storer out to his face too, but that's a different story) and there was a cop car sitting right in front of where we wanted to go so my cousin says "go around a couple blocks and come back". I drive 2 more blocks down, make a right, go 3 blocks, make another right, go the two blocks to the stop sign to turn right to where the dope house was and my cousin says "go ahead and turn, the cop is gone!" I put my blinker on, check the rear view... and say "yeah, he's right behind us!"

I turn right, and the cop blue lights me immediately. I pull over, get my license out and wait for him to come to the window. He gets to the window and it's this HUGH (and I was 6'3", 235) African American cop. He asks me "what are you doing in this area?" I say "just driving around and a little lost". Cop says "don't bullshit me, I grew up in this neighborhood and I *KNOW* what you're doing here!" My cousin leans over and says "ok, we were here to get a dime bag of weed but you wree parked where we wanted to go, so we were driving around waiting for you to leave!"

I'm about to shit myself in disbelief when the cop looks at me and says "there, was THAT so hard to do? You have this nice van full off electronics and I don't want to see you get ripped off for it. I'll follow you down, you get your weed, then get the hell out of here"! He followed us.. we got our weed, he waved us goodbye and we were on our way back home. That was the good cop!

Another time I got popped for driving on suspended license and the cop was taking me to jail. He pissed me off, so I was getting to be a smartass with him. He didn't like that, o he pulled into an alley between some buildings, yanked me out of the car and was gonna tune me up a litte. Suddenly we heard a noise, he looks up and a guy is coming down a fire escape with a pillowcase full of stuff and a bicycle over his shoulder. The cop lokked at the guy coming down, pulled out his gun, and shot dude off the fire escape. He then looked at me and asked "you didn't see *ANYTHING*, did you??" I said "NO SIR! DIDN'T seee NOTHING!!" He said "Good, now get out of here before I shoot you too! I was gone in a flash and never looked back.... This was a bad cop!

Peace,

Ghost

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Response to Ghost in the Machine (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:56 AM

18. I believe every word.

I've lived around the Cutler Ridge police station. I've seen some messed up things around there, and that's out in the suburbs. I can't even imagine Overtown or Little Haiti.

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Response to geomon666 (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 08:39 AM

20. I lived in Quail Roost, Naranja Lakes, Perrine, South Miami Heights, Homestead, Florida City,

The Redlands, South Beach, Miami Beach, North Miami Beach (Ives Estates area) in Dade County. Hallandale, Hollywood, Dania Beach, Davie and Ft. Lauderdale in Broward County and Key Largo and Lower Matecumba Key in Monroe County. I had friends who lived in Cutler Ridge, and I've spent many a night partying there, and days jumping off of Snowdens Dam and swinging on the rope swings. I'm going back 30+ years here!

I have been thinking about moving back to the Central Fla area, around Ocala, but further out. My older sister & brother-in-law live in Ocklawaha, as well as my nephew, his wife and some great-nieces & great-nephews. They are out in the middle of the Ocala National Forest. Just my type of place... had enough of the 'big cities' when I was younger. I LOVE rural living! I hate crowds and traffic...and certainly don't miss the sounds of police and ambulance sirens 24/7! We *might* hear a siren once or twice a month where I am now! To get in a traffic jam, I'd have to go to a church parking lot on Sunday mornings and blow my horn at parked cars LOL!

I've been thinking about the move for a couple of years now, but the only thing holding me back is my elderly parents, who live 4 doors up from me. My only consolation is that my youngest sister is staying there with them right now and helping them out. We think my 76 year old father is in the beginning stages of dementia or Alzheimer's. I'd hate for something to happen and I couldn't get back up here quick enough. My disability only stretches so far, you know.

Peace to you and yours,

Ghost

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Response to Ghost in the Machine (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:54 AM

24. That area of Florida is beautiful.

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Response to Ghost in the Machine (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 11:12 AM

30. Good luck to you

Really the only thing keeping me in the state at this point is family. Have both parents here, brother and sister.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 03:58 AM

19. They put less bullets into Bonnie and Clyde

What is this shit?

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 09:20 AM

23. Reminds me of this

#t=113&hd=1

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:19 AM

25. Do police now carry semi-automatic rifles?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:26 AM

26. a lot carry

full auto or 3 round burst M16 or M4 rifles

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 05:28 PM

42. Non-SWAT police officers carry AR15s and Mini14s which are semi-automatic.

Last edited Sun Jun 22, 2014, 06:26 PM - Edit history (1)

They do not carry selective fire weapons.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 05:30 PM

43. Many agencies issue AR15s to patrol officers.

In the same way that some carry shotguns in their cruisers.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:37 AM

27. Talk about overkill.

That is ridiculous!

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 10:56 AM

29. Can't find the bus scene from Clint Eastwood's the Gauntlet

where hundreds of cops in downtown Phoenix seemed thrilled at the opportunity to engage in target practice on a bus in which Eastwood is trying to get to the courthouse, but here's another scene of gonzo, out-of-control police target practice.

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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 01:05 PM

34. kick

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