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[WillyT]

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[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Surely if the Pres has to be born a US citizen, the VP does too, no?

And now that makes me wonder. I don't recall that Congresspeople have to be, but if the Pres and VP both go down, doesn't the Speaker of the House take over? What if the Speaker wasn't born in the US?

Warren/Lee 2016. (Barbara, that is.)

[WillyT]

2. Details, Details...

[PeaceNikki]

3. Better idea: keep misogynistic homophobic religious leaders the hell *away* from American politics.

[WillyT]

5. Yeah... But You'd Have To Start With Our Own "Misogynistic Homophobic Religious Leaders" First...

Just sayin...

[PeaceNikki]

7. Willy, do you have any idea what a disgusting thought that is to women, LGBT, agnostics, atheists,

protestants, Muslims, Jews, etc, etc, etc??

Really.

You agree with him on this. whoopdie do. Broken clocks, you can't separate the man from the movement, yada, yada. Same thing, different asshole. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5086519

[zappaman]

9. Yeah but it's funny!

Don't you get it???



Do I need a sarcasm tag?

[PeaceNikki]

12. ugh. no.

It's such oddly aimed hero worship.

That someone (on DU, no less) would daydream about such a thing is unfathomable to me.

[zappaman]

14. Don't worry

someone will be along shortly to declare us "authoritarians" and not "real Democrats."

[PeaceNikki]

17. *shuffles away to dig through my purses to find my 'liberal cred card' *

[theHandpuppet]

38. Totally agree, Nikki

It's not only distasteful, it's INSULTING.

[JI7]

35. nobody is calling for them to be put on a Dem Pres Ticket as you are with the Pope

[LostOne4Ever]

28. +infinity (nt)

[msongs]

4. I missed the part where the pope was going to sell the vatican treasures to benefit "the poor" nt

[WillyT]

8. Look... I'm An Atheist... But I Like A Lot Of What THIS Pope Is Saying To Millions: Try This...

Cleaning Up the Vatican
By PAUL VALLELY _ NYT
JUNE 13, 2014

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/opinion/cleaning-up-the-vatican.html?_r=0

Gotta start somewhere.

[Bluenorthwest]

13. You are legitimizing and minimizing bigotry and misogyny because you agree with a few issues.

Before any elected Democrat supported marriage equality, Dick Cheney did. And yet I did not rush to praise Cheney as a role model because he is also a war mongering piece of shit.
Are you openly anti gay like Francis? Are you also opposed to birth control, like your hero? How much of the 'a lot' he is saying do you actually agree with? Would you promote a racist in such a manner? If not, why are you doing this?

[WillyT]

21. And YOU... Are Making The Cause Look Silly...

[PeaceNikki]

22. That is a shitty thing to say, Willy. Seriously shitty.

Some of us don't find your weird 'daydream' funny at all.

[WillyT]

23. Hey Nikki... I've Been Fighting This Fight Since The Briggs Initiative...

You know what that was, correct?

It was one of the major political fights that Harvey Milk was involved with.

I was becoming a teacher, and went around the state making sure the Briggs Initiative (1978 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briggs_Initiative) did not get very far.

And I was tutored by many a gay person.

So maybe this is just an age thing.

Old warriors need not apply.

[Kaleva]

24. Your post was alerted on. Awaiting results.

According to the alert, you claimed to have been tortured by many a gay person.

[WillyT]

25. LOL !!! - I Didn't Consider It Torture...

[scarletwoman]

26. Yeah, I'm waiting, too.

How long does it take to figure out that it was a completely bogus alert based on the idiot alerter's inability to read plain English?

[Kaleva]

27. This one is taking longer then usual

I think it'd be quite funny if the post was hidden as it then would be the worst hide in the history of DU3.

Edit: I voted to leave.

[Kaleva]

29. 7 votes to leave

On Fri Jun 13, 2014, 08:48 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Hey Nikki... I've Been Fighting This Fight Since The Briggs Initiative...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5095280

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

He was ”tortured by many a gay person" so it's OK to tell one they make their "cause look silly"??

That's terrible.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jun 13, 2014, 09:26 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Geez. Is this really over a typo? If anything in this thread is "terrible," this is it.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: WillylT says he was tutored by many a gay person. You thought he said "tortured".
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alerter needs to learn how to read. The word WillyT used was TUTORED, as in taught. Idiotic alert made by someone who can't fucking read!
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Huh?
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[scarletwoman]

31. Well, thank goodness it was 0-7! Wonder what took so long?

At least the alerter is blocked from alerting again on anything for 24 hours. Hopefully they will learn how to read more carefully in the meantime.

[WillyT]

36. :hug:

[scarletwoman]

39. :)

I was juror #4, btw.

[WillyT]

40. Yes.. And I Thank You... I Could Say Something More... But...

I have all the info I need.

[theHandpuppet]

41. Yeah. He can start by shedding his bigotry.

Honestly, how the hell do you think this makes LGBT people like myself feel? Would you think it was okay to promote an avowed racist here as long as he spouted a few things you like? This is insulting beyond words.

[William769]

52. Last fucking time I go to bat for you.

[Bluenorthwest]

6. You'd support an anti choice bigot for high office?

Francis would have to run as a Republican. He says abortion is horrific, it is murder.

[WillyT]

18. Calm Down... It Was Intended As Humor... To Get People To Read The Article...

Do you REALLY think that the Pope would join an American Political Ticket ???

Do you REALLY believe he'd take second fiddle ???

[Bluenorthwest]

19. No but I do think you really made an offensive headline promoting a bigot. REALLY.

Your snarkish reply just makes it worse. That headline is yours. About a hate monger who is opposed to choice. A leader of the Ugandan anti gay crusades. You find that to be fodder for 'humor', strained and stilted humor. The jokes a person sees fit to tell often say more about them than all the rhetoric they craft about their revolutionary selves.
So you calm down, spend a bit of time to consider the crap you keep posting here. You don't mind homophobes and choice is of no concern to you, I get that. But consider the room you are playing. It's not an all white, straight Catholic crowd like you might be used to.
Go fart in someone else's elevator.

[WillyT]

20. I Farted In An Elevator Just This Morning... No Witnesses...

[theHandpuppet]

42. IT'S NOT FUNNY

Bigotry is not a joke.

[zappaman]

10. If the primary is Pope Francis vs Hillary Clinton....

who will you be supporting?

[Aldo Leopold]

15. Warren/Feingold

That's what I'm hoping for.

[LostOne4Ever]

30. THIS!!! (nt)

[pscot]

16. I heard he signed a letter

endorsing Rick Santorum.

[MannyGoldstein]

32. Yes!

Great minds think alike:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4098927

[theHandpuppet]

43. I see there are at least two people here who don't give a rat's ass...

... about the rights of women and gays. At least I know where you stand now.

[MannyGoldstein]

48. Did you tell Obama supporters that they didn't give a rat's ass about gay people

until a couple of years ago?

[Cali_Democrat]

33. This post is a good example of how many straight white male liberals...

...are out of touch with so many constituents within the Democratic Party.

Do you realize how offensive it is to LGBT members of the Democratic Party to even consider a homophobic person as part of a Presidential ticket?

[WillyT]

37. LOL !!! - Perfect !!!

[theHandpuppet]

45. Here -- have a big ol' laugh at this while you're at it

Note: The article below is being included here because Ludovine Rochere, along with Archbishop Cordileone, Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee, will be among the guest speakers at the NOM "March for Marriage" in Washington. Rochere is also an anti-choice activist and opposes in-vitro fertilization, artificial insemination and surrogacy.

Thursday, June 12, 2014
VATICAN CITY: Pope Francis Holds Private Mass With President Of Viciously Anti-Gay Manif Pour Tous

Pope Francis today held a private mass with Ludovine Rochere, the president of France's viciously anti-gay Manif Pour Tous, which held many massive and often violent rallies during the battle for same-sex marriage. From the right wing newspaper Le Figaro (via Google Translate):

The Pope "listened very carefully," according to the president of Manif Pour Tous, Ludovine Rochere, in a statement she made on Thursday morning in Sainte Marthe in Rome, where she was invited to participate in a private Mass with the Pope. "I was placed in the middle of the meeting," said Rochère, "but someone picked me before the start of the Mass, wondering if I was the president of the Manif Pour Tous, to put me at the forefront of the faithful along the aisle, just behind the priests."

This protocol detail is not unimportant. Especially during this Mass, where only thirty people are allowed. It clearly means that the Pope wanted to honor this non-denominational movement since he did invite its principle representative.

After Mass, Pope Francis gave an interview to Rochère, who told him that she was there "on behalf of hundreds of thousands of French who mobilized against the law for gay marriage." She also told him that they were currently advocating on the issue of medically assisted procreation (MAP) and surrogacy. Although the language barrier did not favor the exchange that lasted about five minutes (the Pope understands but does not speak French), he promised that he "would consider" the best way to send a message to the French....

MORE at http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2014/06/rome-pope-francis-meets-with-head-of.html#disqus_thread

[Cali_Democrat]

50. What's so funny? LGBT issues obviously don't affect you...

...so you can brush it off.

I've made my point. It's hard for you just to even understand how people can be offended.

Pathetic.

[mylye2222]

34. the funny..... impossible dream

[theHandpuppet]

44. That you have been allowed to openly mock LGBT people here...

... and their very real pain and outrage is disgusting. This thread should have been locked.

[MannyGoldstein]

47. Would praising President Lincoln be considered mocking black Americans?

Trying to understand your position...

[n2doc]

46. I thought it was Warren/Brat

Really, I suspect if you look hard enough you can find some position that Sen. Warren and (pick a person) agree upon. I don't think it helps Warren's cause to link her, even jokingly, with others that have very different agendas for the most part.

Frankly I am becoming convinced that Pope Francis is all hat, no cattle. He talks a lot, but does next to nothing to rein in the real pain that his minions are causing in the world.

[SidDithers]

49. ...

Fuck theocracy.

Sid

[m-lekktor]

51. i would stay home and not vote.

fuck that pope. and to think i was feeling sorry for you in that "i am under attack" thread at first. then i saw *this*