Mon Apr 2, 2012, 08:45 PM

my friend said, "it is never, ever okay for white people to say (n-word)."

she continued, "and the worst part of it, is that when you say it quoting someone else, you all always say it with such relish! it's as if you finally get the chance to say it where you can act as if it is not YOU saying it, so you really get off on saying it!"

the other day there was a thread on which that word was written, i think i counted, twenty times. i first thought i ought to write and post this then, but i didn't get a chance to then. the next day, there was another thread with it. today, there is another. maybe others i have not read.

the one loaded with it being left to stand gave permission for the second, and that, the next.

i knew i should post about the first one. the first utterance opened the floodgates for the next nineteen in that thread. so, of course, those would open it for the next and next.

"o! wheeee! i get to say IT!!!! and blame someone else!!!!"

that word (i will stick to saying this about whites saying it) is NEVER, EVER ANYTHING BUT A VULGAR, VILE, HURTFUL ATTACK ON ALL BLACKS.

how do you know it is never appropriate?

because black people have told you it is never appropriate.

so, how do you know when it is appropriate to use, or not?

it never is.

people go, "b-b-b-ut-but-but ... THEEEEEEEEEEY USE IT!!!!" why is is okay for THEEEEEEMMMMM to use it, but i get shit when i do?!!!!!"

well, let me try to put it in a way that white feminists might grasp why john lennon was being a racist prick when he put it in the title of a song that would further divide white feminists from women of color:

i am a d-ke who loves my c--t, but i would do anything in my power to stop anyone from ever, EVER calling YOU or anyone else either word in their vulgar senses; or from ever, EVER using either in those vulgar senses for ANY reason. in fact, if any man quotes me, i expect you to use "c-word." women? well, any woman has the right to determine that about her own personal beloved c--t, or another's she's been assured accepts that.

i hope not to read it on here anymore. it has been scary to see it go this far.

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my friend said, "it is never, ever okay for white people to say (n-word)." (Original post)	nofurylike	Apr 2012	OP
oh horseshit. words are just letters arranged in a certain order.	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#1
Are you black, SCHEMA? Just curious based on your comment.	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#3
I don't like anyone using that word. Some words need to die. That one needs to die.	roguevalley	Apr 2012	#29
No, but just like my Black friends I've been using words since I was a toddler.	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#50
that's a cheeky thing to say to someone like me. I'm a BLACK WOMAN MARRIED to a SOUTHERN	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#62
Where did you get this idea?	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#75
Where did I get that idea? Are you serious? What about this:	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#78
yeah, I still don't get where you took something I didn't say from something I did say.	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#89
hoping for better from others is not "authoritarian." nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#92
Sorry Schema, but just because you feel entitled to use hate speech DOES NOT MAKE YOU BLACK or just	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#94
Again, you are refusing to read or reply to my actual words.	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#99
Lecturing people? I'm not the only one who are READING YOUR WORDS AND GETTING THE SAME	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#125
Sorry, but no you don't	tkmorris	Apr 2012	#137
You got that right! Tell it like it is!	goclark	Apr 2012	#117
i inferred the same from "I've been using words since i was a toddler." since most have,	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#107
Thank you, Ecumenist. I too am a black woman married to a white man	Number23	Apr 2012	#115
White here with a sister married to a black man. It bothers me also so you can imagine how it feels	jwirr	Apr 2012	#165
Some moron came up with the fundamentally flawed idea that using it everyday would reduce it's	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#181
I agree. And it doesn't help my sister, her husband or their children.	jwirr	Apr 2012	#187
Geez Louise	Number23	Apr 2012	#114
Why is that deserving of a face palm?	EOTE	Apr 2012	#162
So your significant other is okay with people calling her the n word?	Number23	Apr 2012	#213
She uses it herself.	EOTE	Apr 2012	#218
I'm Not Black	RobinA	Apr 2012	#177
Well, the chance of becoming queen of anything other than a turnip or pumpkin festival	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#183
Way To Miss the Point n/m	RobinA	Apr 2012	#208
Understood completely and realiser you're naive to think that you could become queen of anything	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#209
gawd-damned straight! (edited)	Cerridwen	Apr 2012	#6
Well said, but I think you're misinformed about Godwin.	EOTE	Apr 2012	#163
I'm relieved to see another has the same interpretation.	Cerridwen	Apr 2012	#232
i see that to you they are.	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#24
It's not your fault that you're profoundly ignorant of the historical context this word came from,	sudopod	Apr 2012	#43
I'm every bit as aware as you are of the historical context of the word.	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#52
That's nice in theory.	sudopod	Apr 2012	#54
whoa there	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#63
Talking like a damn fool.	sudopod	Apr 2012	#67
Brilliant!! thank you for that, sudopod!! heartbreakingly spot on Truth. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#90
;)	sudopod	Apr 2012	#113
thank you so very much, sudopod.	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#120
I used to completely agree with your claim, but I have learned words are	ZombieHorde	Apr 2012	#119
In addition to the meaning of the person who hears them, also...	LanternWaste	Apr 2012	#156
I just wanted to say "Thank You" for saying what I've been feeling for so long now.	EnviroBat	Apr 2012	#166
Amen, NoFuryLIke!.. Iam a black woman MARRIED to a white man and HE HAS NEVER USED THAT WORD	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#2
thank you so very much, Ecumenist!!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#7
I taught my kid the reason the word is wrong, beyond being crude and disrespectful, is that where	freshwest	Apr 2012	#28
Amen, FreshWest. It seems that the Trayvon Martin case is bringing out of the woodwork	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#70
a crucially important aspect, "an 'action' word," thank you so much, freshwest!! and	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#97
I never used that word with my husband who was black man	notadmblnd	Apr 2012	#35
What about Eminem? nt	Snake Alchemist	Apr 2012	#4
i would say the same to him, though i doubt he'd listen any more	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#9
Actually Eminem never said the N-word in ANY of his songs.	FarLeftFist	Apr 2012	#15
thank you for correcting that, FarLeftFist. i apologize to Eminem for	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#22
You need to listen to his underground stuff.	Snake Alchemist	Apr 2012	#23
So if my daugher asks what the "n-word" is and why she should never say it,	hughee99	Apr 2012	#5
i ask that other parents please reply to that. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#8
I think, Hughee99, that you need to tell your sweet little girl what the word is, why she shouldn't	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#13
very beautifully said. thank you so much for that, Ecumenist. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#27
That approach worked well with my daughter.	Mariana	Apr 2012	#49
Adults don't like to admit to being retroactively wrong	loyalsister	Apr 2012	#88
that is insightful!!! yes! "being retroactively wrong ... they feel the need to defend"!!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#98
awesome	loyalsister	Apr 2012	#104
thank you for bringing it to this thread, loyalsister.	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#121
Any and all, I guess	loyalsister	Apr 2012	#144
o my, that is an entire discussion, in itself! much to think about !	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#193
As far as your original post...	loyalsister	Apr 2012	#196
great!! i reply tonight, but briefly: "when you say it quoting someone else ... " y'know? nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#198
That's kind of tricky	loyalsister	Apr 2012	#200
If she's old enough to ask and wonder	dems_rightnow	Apr 2012	#14
clarifying. thank you so much for replying to that, dems_rightnow. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#31
Of course you should	guitar man	Apr 2012	#46
we have this thing called the first amendment	quinnox	Apr 2012	#10
You are free to say it	Aerows	Apr 2012	#12
correct, and that is why I agree	quinnox	Apr 2012	#17
maybe even the consequences of our own consciences. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#38
How are you then free to say it?	NutmegYankee	Apr 2012	#145
having a legal right to say it is not a question raised by my post (though good question).	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#37
It's never okay for heterosexuals to	Aerows	Apr 2012	#11
i agree. thank you for adding that, Aerows.	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#40
I agree NFL. I get embarrassed when I hear OTHER people say it. It's 100% wrong.	FarLeftFist	Apr 2012	#16
thank you, again, more, FarLeftFist. i get embarrassed too!! 100%,YES! nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#41
When we were kids and would pile up on each other playing, we'd call it "n***** pile."	Archae	Apr 2012	#18
I had a friend that asked me what you call Brazil nuts	Aerows	Apr 2012	#19
We never used the racist term for them.	Archae	Apr 2012	#26
We played that game, but we called it Jam Pile.	notadmblnd	Apr 2012	#25
Nowadays kids call it "dog pile."	Archae	Apr 2012	#33
And we called it a pig pile. I never heard the n-word until we were much older. I saw the first	jwirr	Apr 2012	#167
It changed, for us, to "pig pile".	uppityperson	Apr 2012	#36
us too. one of the deepest, most intensely shame-filled lessons i ever learned was	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#103
This PC horseshit is getting old	derby378	Apr 2012	#20
So, because we're democrats/progressives, we should just go around caling browns and blacks "n*****s	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#45
I am a Polack, thank you very much	derby378	Apr 2012	#48
HAHAHAHA	sudopod	Apr 2012	#55
Do YOU intend to use any of those words?	derby378	Apr 2012	#58
For ANYONE to suggest that ANY group of people shouldn't say a word	LaydeeBug	Apr 2012	#71
oh lord	sudopod	Apr 2012	#83
Please	LaydeeBug	Apr 2012	#153
LaydeeBud, Frankly, I don't think that ANYONE should use this language because it's only	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#127
That's Laydeebug, thankyouverymuch, and I agree with you, which is why that racist "friend" should	LaydeeBug	Apr 2012	#154
:clap:	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#123
Don't twist what I was saying because you know damn well what my point was. Your attempt	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#66
I don't know where you're getting all these ideas from...	derby378	Apr 2012	#72
I'm not saying that nobody use them but there is a history behind certain words that prevent them	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#81
yes! "there is a history behind certain words that prevent them	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#126
There is a difference between making certain words part of a benign language...	derby378	Apr 2012	#158
no, i didn't write out the c-word. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#203
yes!! "they would have been (obsolete) at least one hundred years ago." nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#124
To me PC is a rw term - in our family we do not use derogatory words to describe other races	jwirr	Apr 2012	#170
very well said, thank you so very much, jwirr!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#224
"the words that were designed to hurt and degrade"	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#122
Wow, you must be great fun at parties. nt	sudopod	Apr 2012	#47
sanitary? how about compassionate, at least?	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#109
If you don't want me to use the word, don't use it yourself	derby378	Apr 2012	#159
i sit in awe at the challenge for people to actually not be purposely offensive to others.	seabeyond	Apr 2012	#21
yes!! that is really what the argument seems to come down to:	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#128
Do you really think that it is appropriate	gvstn	Apr 2012	#30
+100	derby378	Apr 2012	#44
i protested people's using swastikas in avatars here	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#131
My children were instructed from birth to NEVER use this word	w8liftinglady	Apr 2012	#32
i explained to my daughter never to use this word as well	orleans	Apr 2012	#108
beautifully said, orleans, thank you so very much!!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#138
VERY well put, w8liftinglady!! "It is foul,obscene-because of its intent.	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#135
George Carlins and Richard Pryors take on it...	-..__...	Apr 2012	#34
... and I say - "it is never, ever okay for ME to say (n-word)".	stlsaxman	Apr 2012	#39
good points, stlsaxman! thank you! nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#225
great discussion, and thank you so for recs!! must run, back later to reply more nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#42
It's certainly never appropriate for people to call each other that word	fujiyama	Apr 2012	#51
Bingo!	derby378	Apr 2012	#56
first, i am not advocating censorship. that should not be necessary with principled	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#204
I just view the use of dashes and other symbols as silly and pointless	fujiyama	Apr 2012	#216
Freedom of speech	felix_numinous	Apr 2012	#53
Tell your friend that it is no ok to refer to caucasian European Americans as "whire".	vr94rx7	Apr 2012	#57
"Whire?"	derby378	Apr 2012	#59
I hate to be called white so much i forgot how to spell it lol.	vr94rx7	Apr 2012	#60
Except when reading Twain.	alphafemale	Apr 2012	#61
Stings is correct	gvstn	Apr 2012	#77
that's what an exacto knife is for	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#79
I'm white. I would never use the N word. But I don't like the 'tude of your friend.	Honeycombe8	Apr 2012	#64
"...at least according to a white's perspective."	sudopod	Apr 2012	#69
GOD BLESS YOU HONEYCOMB, I am kinda shocked no one called out the friend.	LaydeeBug	Apr 2012	#73
Well put. nt	Union Scribe	Apr 2012	#86
As a minority, I call BULLSHIT, and the fact that "your friend" says WHITE PEOPLE can't say it...	LaydeeBug	Apr 2012	#65
You know LayDeeBug, I have never understood people who claimed that blacks can't be racist.	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#129
and it seems the OP's "friend" is an example of someone who wants to BE racist	LaydeeBug	Apr 2012	#146
Unless you're quoting a line from "Blazing Saddles"	AnnieBW	Apr 2012	#68
I think it's undeniable that that movie, using humor, helped people	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#82
"the social prudishness that has crept into society"	sudopod	Apr 2012	#84
well, certainly the enlightened attitudes of the movie Blazing Saddles	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#91
AW COME ON, IT'S A JOKE!	sudopod	Apr 2012	#95
somehow you still seem humorless	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#100
This message was hidden by jury decision.	sudopod	Apr 2012	#102
This message was hidden by jury decision.	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#105
You have the right to say whatever you want.	sudopod	Apr 2012	#106
but I don't have any "backwards-ass" opinions.	Schema Thing	Apr 2012	#110
Bullied? Do you even know what "authortarian" means?	sudopod	Apr 2012	#111
Amen, Sudopod! There are just some that cannot or WILL NOT understand...	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#130
Mein kampfy chair	Oilwellian	Apr 2012	#199
Right. Archie Bunker was a racist, and they should have NEVER made that show.	Romulox	Apr 2012	#176
No it is not ok	wendylaroux	Apr 2012	#74
I so agree and to even use debasements	arthritisR_US	Apr 2012	#76
+1	freshwest	Apr 2012	#80
+ 100	loyalsister	Apr 2012	#96
Ain't it the truth! Just because SOME black folks use self-denigrating language DOES NOT	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#133
All groups do it, it's just not something I	arthritisR_US	Apr 2012	#192
Thank you WendyLaRoux, for pointing out what SHOULD be obvious!	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#132
Thanks!	wendylaroux	Apr 2012	#169
absolutely!! thank you very much wendylaroux! welcome! nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#205
Context is everything	guitar man	Apr 2012	#85
Neither of my 21 year olds	pipoman	Apr 2012	#87
what blacks are using it? I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYONE BLACK USE THAT WORD!	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#134
I think you're doing it again	tkmorris	Apr 2012	#140
I had two other people read this post and they both started laughing and saying that	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#142
Most people who read the post as a response to the OP	pipoman	Apr 2012	#148
Maybe the context of my post is lost if you don't first read the post	pipoman	Apr 2012	#147
Spam deleted by PassingFair (MIR Team)	dont h8--appreciate	Apr 2012	#207
are you a black person?	hfojvt	Apr 2012	#93
I repeat. Geez Louise...	Number23	Apr 2012	#116
thank you, Number23. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#223
A-Okay.	yewberry	Apr 2012	#101
In my opinion white people should never use that word to refer to black people.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#112
Yes, Vattel, EVERYTHING you said is completely correct.	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#136
I have a question	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#118
NadinBrzezinski, I have no earthly idea why that student was offended by your research	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#139
It made sense, if you think about it	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#178
thank you, all, for this oustanding discussion! much to reply to all!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#141
A specific example for discussion (warning: the word is spelled out)	Jim Lane	Apr 2012	#143
My mother LOVES that word.	YellowRubberDuckie	Apr 2012	#149
growing up in segregated Texas in the 50s I never remember hearing my white parents say it.	CTyankee	Apr 2012	#150
'Plenty of racists don't say it but I'll bet they think it... '	bart95	Apr 2012	#161
aw, come on, you know what I mean.	CTyankee	Apr 2012	#168
i did stretch it a bit	bart95	Apr 2012	#172
In many ways, I agree with you. I'm talking about people who are only mildly hiding	CTyankee	Apr 2012	#180
It was EASY to discern what you meant, CTYankee.	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#188
Should Harper Lee have used asterisks in "To Kill a Mockingbird"? (nt)	Nye Bevan	Apr 2012	#151
No. She revealed, through dialog, what the problem was. Everybody reading her book knew	CTyankee	Apr 2012	#194
Can i still sing along to DJ Fletch in the car? nt	Snake Alchemist	Apr 2012	#152
It's a horrible word that I never, ever, ever use.	HappyMe	Apr 2012	#155
I agree 100%	duhneece	Apr 2012	#157
it's not ok for anyone to use it, if you really want it to go away	bart95	Apr 2012	#160
I do hope that you and your friend would make allowances for artistic expression	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#164
Yep. Spike Lee is right.	Taverner	Apr 2012	#171
so he's advocating 'qualified equality'	bart95	Apr 2012	#173
Belated +bazillion	derby378	Apr 2012	#231
Spike Lee is a proven idiot.	dont h8--appreciate	Apr 2012	#206
Opinion noted, Mr 11 posts...	Taverner	Apr 2012	#210
I can call my brother a dumb bastard and get away with it. He's my brother.	Ikonoklast	Apr 2012	#174
but if you were to consistently and publicly call him that	bart95	Apr 2012	#175
Nope. Doesn't work that way. You are not allowed to call him anything.	Ikonoklast	Apr 2012	#179
no, here's how it works	bart95	Apr 2012	#182
You try it first. I'll watch.	Ikonoklast	Apr 2012	#185
no, i dont have a chip on my shoulder	bart95	Apr 2012	#186
Used to spend a lot of time in courtrooms.	Ikonoklast	Apr 2012	#190
'I've been insulted by experts before.'	bart95	Apr 2012	#195
Right....cause white people are the only ones who are verbally racist....	cbdo2007	Apr 2012	#184
And I say it's never okay for anyone to say it....black, white, or other.	Iggo	Apr 2012	#189
Oh yeah, I say n***** all the time.	Quantess	Apr 2012	#191
great comments! thank you!! i apologize i couldn't reply yesterday, or till tonight. nt	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#197
Nope. Fail.	turn off your mind	Apr 2012	#201
Your friend seems narrowminded and bigoted...	MellowDem	Apr 2012	#202
a-MEN. nt	LaydeeBug	Apr 2012	#217
Here's an interesting idea	theaocp	Apr 2012	#211
I'm a historian, and the word comes up in documents often...	a la izquierda	Apr 2012	#212
How am I to sing along with N.W.A. without it?	MrSlayer	Apr 2012	#214
this is about the responsibility of white people who want to be	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#215
There is only one situation when you can use the word "Nigger"	grantcart	Apr 2012	#219
see? exactly the point! said it with relish, didn't you?	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#220
i always talk about Dick Gregory with great relish.	grantcart	Apr 2012	#221
i can understand that, absolutely! and an evening with Dick Gregory?! i would too!!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#222
I figured it would be provocative enough that it would attract some unsuspecting folks	grantcart	Apr 2012	#229
great thought, grantcart! i hope it will!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#233
i'm sorry my thread has outgrown my dial-up. i can reply to one or two posts	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#226
I don't know about "never, ever". Imagine a situation when terrorists set up a powerful bomb	Fool Count	Apr 2012	#227
oh noes!1 my absolute claim is irrefutably rebutted!!1!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#228
OK, I see you were not impressed with my counterexamples.	Fool Count	Apr 2012	#230
i was impressed! superb parody!!	nofurylike	Apr 2012	#234

Response to nofurylike (Original post)

Mon Apr 2, 2012, 08:51 PM

Schema Thing (8,570 posts)

1. oh horseshit. words are just letters arranged in a certain order.

they have the meaning of the person who utters them. Nothing more, and nothing less.

There is nothing liberal or progressive about giving words power so that you can then exercise some perverse authoritarianism against your fellow.

my friend said, "it is never, ever okay for white people to say (n-word)."

1. oh horseshit. words are just letters arranged in a certain order.

3. Are you black, SCHEMA? Just curious based on your comment.

29. I don't like anyone using that word. Some words need to die. That one needs to die.

50. No, but just like my Black friends I've been using words since I was a toddler.

62. that's a cheeky thing to say to someone like me. I'm a BLACK WOMAN MARRIED to a SOUTHERN

75. Where did you get this idea?

78. Where did I get that idea? Are you serious? What about this:

89. yeah, I still don't get where you took something I didn't say from something I did say.

92. hoping for better from others is not "authoritarian." nt

94. Sorry Schema, but just because you feel entitled to use hate speech DOES NOT MAKE YOU BLACK or just

99. Again, you are refusing to read or reply to my actual words.

125. Lecturing people? I'm not the only one who are READING YOUR WORDS AND GETTING THE SAME

137. Sorry, but no you don't

117. You got that right! Tell it like it is!

107. i inferred the same from "I've been using words since i was a toddler." since most have,

115. Thank you, Ecumenist. I too am a black woman married to a white man

165. White here with a sister married to a black man. It bothers me also so you can imagine how it feels

181. Some moron came up with the fundamentally flawed idea that using it everyday would reduce it's

187. I agree. And it doesn't help my sister, her husband or their children.

114. Geez Louise

162. Why is that deserving of a face palm?

213. So your significant other is okay with people calling her the n word?

218. She uses it herself.

177. I'm Not Black

183. Well, the chance of becoming queen of anything other than a turnip or pumpkin festival

208. Way To Miss the Point n/m

209. Understood completely and realiser you're naive to think that you could become queen of anything

6. gawd-damned straight! (edited)

163. Well said, but I think you're misinformed about Godwin.

232. I'm relieved to see another has the same interpretation.

24. i see that to you they are.

43. It's not your fault that you're profoundly ignorant of the historical context this word came from,

52. I'm every bit as aware as you are of the historical context of the word.

54. That's nice in theory.

63. whoa there

67. Talking like a damn fool.

90. Brilliant!! thank you for that, sudopod!! heartbreakingly spot on Truth. nt

113. ;)

120. thank you so very much, sudopod.

119. I used to completely agree with your claim, but I have learned words are

156. In addition to the meaning of the person who hears them, also...

166. I just wanted to say "Thank You" for saying what I've been feeling for so long now.

2. Amen, NoFuryLIke!.. Iam a black woman MARRIED to a white man and HE HAS NEVER USED THAT WORD

7. thank you so very much, Ecumenist!!

28. I taught my kid the reason the word is wrong, beyond being crude and disrespectful, is that where

70. Amen, FreshWest. It seems that the Trayvon Martin case is bringing out of the woodwork

97. a crucially important aspect, "an 'action' word," thank you so much, freshwest!! and

35. I never used that word with my husband who was black man

4. What about Eminem? nt

9. i would say the same to him, though i doubt he'd listen any more

15. Actually Eminem never said the N-word in ANY of his songs.

22. thank you for correcting that, FarLeftFist. i apologize to Eminem for

23. You need to listen to his underground stuff.

5. So if my daugher asks what the "n-word" is and why she should never say it,

8. i ask that other parents please reply to that. nt

13. I think, Hughee99, that you need to tell your sweet little girl what the word is, why she shouldn't

27. very beautifully said. thank you so much for that, Ecumenist. nt

49. That approach worked well with my daughter.

88. Adults don't like to admit to being retroactively wrong

98. that is insightful!!! yes! "being retroactively wrong ... they feel the need to defend"!!

104. awesome

121. thank you for bringing it to this thread, loyalsister.

144. Any and all, I guess

193. o my, that is an entire discussion, in itself! much to think about !

196. As far as your original post...

198. great!! i reply tonight, but briefly: "when you say it quoting someone else ... " y'know? nt

200. That's kind of tricky

14. If she's old enough to ask and wonder

31. clarifying. thank you so much for replying to that, dems_rightnow. nt

46. Of course you should

10. we have this thing called the first amendment

12. You are free to say it

17. correct, and that is why I agree

38. maybe even the consequences of our own consciences. nt

145. How are you then free to say it?

37. having a *legal right* to say it is not a question raised by my post (though good question).

11. It's never okay for heterosexuals to

40. i agree. thank you for adding that, Aerows.

16. I agree NFL. I get embarrassed when I hear OTHER people say it. It's 100% wrong.

37. having a legal right to say it is not a question raised by my post (though good question).