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Thu Jun 5, 2014, 07:56 PM

One comment attributed to Bergdahl is disturbing me

Apparently Bergdahl asked his sergeant if his leaving the unit with his weapon and night-vision equipment would cause problems.

This is disturbing on two counts:

Why wouldn't his sergeant have asked him why he wants to know this?

And why wouldn't his sergeant then have gone to someone who outranked him - and more important, the first someone-who-outranked-him he could find - and reported what Bergdahl said?

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 07:59 PM

1. From the snippets I've seen, the leadership sucked there.

Whether that is the answer to your very good question, is unknown to me.

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:00 PM

2. Did you get this from a news article or a talking head?...

If you are quoting a news article, can you provide a link? Thanks in advance.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 09:54 PM

10. Try this

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/bergdahls-unit-comrades-recount-disappearance-23979173

Evan Buetow, 27, who was a sergeant in the platoon:

Buetow, speaking from Maple Valley, Washington, said Bergdahl had asked him a number of questions a short time before his disappearance that, in retrospect, make it apparent that Bergdahl had been planning to leave.

Bergdahl asked him, for example, how much of a cash advance he could get and how to go about mailing home his personal computer and other belongings. He also asked what would happen if his weapon and other sensitive items such as night vision goggles went missing. He said he told Bergdahl that, as any soldier would know, that would be "a big deal."

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:02 PM

3. I'm curious as to what problems they were referring to.

Problems off post with such things, or problems with those things being gone when not on official duty? Either way, he obeyed--why? Presumably, because he was coming back and not looking to get disciplined for having that stuff off post unauthorized, is my best guess. But yeah, why didn't they watch him and question him?

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:06 PM

4. What's disturbing is this rumor is taken

As both fact and entirety

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:12 PM

5. Why would Bergdahl care about trouble if he was going to get in trouble by leaving anyway?

 

Something just doesn't make sense. Soldiers can be Teabaggers too. And I think this is where the swift-boating is coming from.

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:17 PM

6. Agreed. It was common knowledge that Bergdahl took unusual walks (and always came back)

So his CO may have presumed this was one of those...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014819538

But on the other hand, who authorizes a guy to take a walk on the front lines of Afghanistan?

And if so, it says more about THEM than Bergdahl....

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:25 PM

7. Answer - People ask alot of stupid questions...especially in the Army

First, the quote is from SGT Buetow...and he did not say Bergdahl asked about "if his leaving the unit with his weapon" would be a problem. Instead he reported that Bergdahl asked what would happen if his weapon and sensitive items 'went missing'.

Its an important distinction. The first phrase implies Bergdahl has a hobo pack on a stick resting on his shoulder, and he's practically on the way out the door.

The second phrase could be interpreted differently. My first question would be (panicked) "did you lose your weapon or a sensitive item?". Other than that, I would figure that Bergdahl had some crazy idea about selling them to locals, or intentionally losing them in some hope of getting out of duty...kind of like pulling a fire alarm at school, I would have thought he was angling to get the unit pulled out of combat duty to go look for a weapon, or something like that.

But soldiers have a lot of time on their hands, and come up with some weird questions.

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:42 PM

8. Did he, in fact, ask that? What's the source for it?

Not saying he didn't, but considering how invested conservatives have been to paint Bergdahl as a traitor (and thus a bad deal to trade for him), there's a lot of elephant shit mixing with actual facts. Witness the "8 men died looking for him" claim, when it's not clear if any of those deaths had anything to do with Bergdahl.

Check your sources to be sure.

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:44 PM

9. PFCs ask stupid questions...

 

Lots of em..

It may have only registered in hindsight...

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:59 PM

11. A sheriff’s deputy would have asked questions.

 

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