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Sun Jun 1, 2014, 06:45 PM

"For millions of Americans, poverty isn't caused by the inability to work ..."

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Reply "For millions of Americans, poverty isn't caused by the inability to work ..." (Original post)
Scuba Jun 1 OP
Shandris Jun 1 #1
randys1 Jun 1 #2
theHandpuppet Jun 1 #4
hue Jun 1 #3
smallcat88 Jun 1 #5
Skeeter Barnes Jun 1 #6
Beartracks Jun 1 #11
Doctor_J Jun 1 #7
csziggy Jun 1 #10
Wounded Bear Jun 1 #8
radhika Jun 1 #9
dotymed Jun 2 #20
geretogo Jun 2 #25
Lizzie Poppet Jun 1 #12
Tsiyu Jun 1 #13
McCamy Taylor Jun 1 #14
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blkmusclmachine Jun 1 #15
davidthegnome Jun 2 #16
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2 #17
De Leonist Jun 2 #18
fasttense Jun 2 #21
Alkene Jun 2 #19
Initech Jun 2 #22
JayhawkSD Jun 2 #23
geretogo Jun 2 #24

Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 06:49 PM

1. I can answer for the 19 poverty-line Americans and their families I know personally...

...who all work and work full-time for the opportunity to be paid next to nothing.

This pic is so very true, and that's in an area where CoL is low. It only gets worse the closer to a coast you get from me.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 06:58 PM

2. And republicans think minimum wage workers make too much

Otherwise increasing min wage would be something they would care about

We are going to ALL be in poverty very soon unless we do something VERY dramatic

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Response to randys1 (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:30 PM

4. Hell, some of them want to do away with minimum wage altogether

Not to mention child labor laws!

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:28 PM

3. Too true!!

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:41 PM

5. Hear, hear!

I've been told numerous times what a good worker I am but a raise? Or full time? They don't have the payroll. Not my manager's fault. That decision comes from much higher up. From a guy worth billions. I looked it (him) up.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:51 PM

6. The harder and nastier the job, the lower the pay gets. And the worse you get treated.

We have to stop relying on crooked, elitist politicians in both parties to do something for the working class. They do not care about us. We have got to organize.

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Response to Skeeter Barnes (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:30 PM

11. David Graeber explains why the more your job helps others, the less you get paid.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:54 PM

7. What ever happened to that paltry $10.10 that Reid was going to pass?

I would like to belong to a party that makes this an election-year issue

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:06 PM

10. House Democrats should pull that out and try to force a vote

At least as many times as the House Republicans voted on repealing Obamacare!

Every single time the House Republicans block a vote or vote against increasing the minimum wage, that should be used as a campaign issue - against all Republicans and against every individual that votes against increasing the minimum wage.

Some day, I hope to see a true living wage in this country. Anyone who works full time should get paid above poverty level and receive full benefits, in my opinion.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:55 PM

8. Dutifully stolen and shared...



Thanks!!

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:59 PM

9. Working full-time at poverty wages is immoral....

When desperate workers keep showing up to enrich major profitable firms - while they and their families can't meet basic needs without assistance or debt - we have a moral crisis.

IMHO, 21st century capitalism has become a completely malign bargain and a business model that a democratic society should not tolerate.



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Response to radhika (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 07:09 AM

20. Sadly, capitalism has

replaced Democracy.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:34 PM

25. Exactly .

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:35 PM

12. Kicked for truth. (nt)

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:47 PM

13. I get so sick of people bitching that they saw someone

using an EBT card, automatically assuming that person has no job or work ethic.

Most of the people I know on EBT also have jobs. It's just that you can work a 60 hour week and still only bring in 20 grand a year at the dismal rate companies are paying, and if you can find two crappy part time jobs to get you that many hours.
When you've got health issues, kids, medical debt, a mortgage, etc, 20 grand won't even cover the basics.

So yeah, this is the reality, in this poster




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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 09:26 PM

14. And for every women stuck in a pink collar job, there are a couple of kids

also living in poverty, because if she didn't have the kids to support, she might be able to go back to school and get a degree.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Sun Jun 1, 2014, 11:22 PM

15. ,

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 12:37 AM

16. Amen.

At my place of work, there are several workers who have been there for over five years (one in particular has been working there for 17) and are still making minimum wage. I make eight an hour - and even that, my employer (a multi-millionaire) considers quite generous.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 02:00 AM

17. There are minimum wage jobs where the worker sees MILLIONS worth of transactions pass by daily.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 02:55 AM

18. It is time

That The Class War started in Earnest. Time that we all RADICALIZE, ORGANIZE, UNIONIZE!

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Response to De Leonist (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 09:32 AM

21. It's way past time

we all RADICALIZE, ORGANIZE, UNIONIZE!

I just don't think Americans have the guts to fight back.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:01 AM

19. +1000 n/t

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 10:52 AM

22. I have been saying this for years!

It's not the jobs! It's the wages! And the Republicans are doing their best to take labor relations back to the stone age. Which is why the thought of a Rand Paul or Scott Walker as president with a super majority in the House scares the living shit out of me, and it should scare you too. They will reoeal Obamacare and expect even worse.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 11:19 AM

23. SHE ISN'T TALKING ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE

I apologize for shouting, but wake up people. Minimum wage is lousy pay, and even if you raise it, it will still be lousy pay. She's talking about well-paying jobs, jobs that pay enough that one person working one job can raise a family, and that's what we should all be talking about.

That's what this nation used to be about. People working at jobs that were careers that rewarded them.

Focusing on minimum wage and striving to make the minimum wage a "living wage" is turning this nation a "minimum wage nation." Do we want to be a nation where minimum wage is the goal? When I got out of the Navy I was immediately making more than ten times the minimum wage doing manual work in a factory. It doesn't matter what the minimum wage was then, the point is that it was not my goal to work for that amount.

Creating 200,000 new jobs does no good if they are all minimum wage jobs and it takes three of them to provide for a family of four.

We should be demanding that new jobs be created that pay $35, $40, $45 per hour doing meaningful work. I don't know how we do that, but I'm not being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to sit in Washing and talk through my ass, either. The people who are being paid with our tax dollars are being paid to come up with answers and we should be telling them the kind of answers we want, not simply accepting the bullshit answers they give us.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:32 PM

24. Promoting poverty is job #1 for the GOP when a democrat is in office . It's the only way they can

steal a political office .

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