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Respect diversity.
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)TBF
(31,990 posts)sakabatou
(42,130 posts)Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)most common language. That is so sad to see.
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,912 posts)I am surprised by Oklahoma.
LuvNewcastle
(16,834 posts)I'm surprised that one of the Indian languages isn't spoken more commonly in OK, especially.
Behind the Aegis
(53,912 posts)There is a long history for both. While there are quite a few Native languages spoken here (fun to see commercials in Cherokee and Delaware), the population just isn't that high and the number of speakers is low.
Ex Lurker
(3,811 posts)Lots of military spouses, former refugees who settled where they first entered the country, and people who enlisted as a path to citizenship.
DURHAM D
(32,603 posts)and large numbers of Vietnamese families started arriving in the US in the late 70s and early 80s Oklahoma City had a lot of abandoned real estate. Oklahoma was going through what I refer to as "The Great Oklahoma Oil Depression". It was the result of irresponsible lending by the banks (more than 130 Oklahoma banks failed) for bad energy loans for more oil exploration based on bogus reserve stats.
The Vietnamese refugees were recruited/welcomed to OKC. Over night an abandoned strip mall a few block west of the Capital re-opened with restaurants, grocery stores and bakeries and the plywood removed from the windows of the houses in the surrounding neighborhoods and re-occupied. I remember seeing signs and menus in Vietnamese, French and English.
A warning... if you dine at any of the many, many Vietnamese restaurant in OKC you will never again be able to stomach what passes for Vietnamese food in most of the country.
AnneD
(15,774 posts)has an immersion school that started in elementary and is now up to middle school. I am surprised that there aren't more Cherokee speakers.
I hope Dakota meant the Dakota Indian language, don't ya know.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)There are quite a few of them on the Arkansas side of the border as well. I used to work with some Cherokees-- the older ones could speak Cherokee, but they said their kids had little interest in speaking it. One reason, I guess, is that they are spread out and the kids tend to favor the language of their friends, which tends to be English. I see that in Japan as well-- kids who have one Japanese parent and one non-Japanese parent tend to focus on speaking Japanese when it is the language of their friends.
AnneD
(15,774 posts)through out the US (these are tribal role card carrying members). The immersion school is in the Tahlequah area and has been a great success. The best part-young children can talk to their elders and knowledge is passed from the generations and not forgotten.
They now have Cherokee fonts for the computers and smart phones. Language classes are offered over the internet and there is material for every age group. I particularly love the games. As one of our Chiefs once wisely put it....we don't want the Cherokee Nation to be a foot note in history.
hunter
(38,299 posts)I just looked, and yes, somewhere along the line I've installed the Cherokee font.
No problem rendering the wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_language
http://chr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ᎤᎵᎮᎵᏍᏗ (Cherokee Wikipedia)
The language is preinstalled on newer Apple machines. I use Linux.
Maintaining a language is a wonderful thing to do and goes a long, long way in preserving a culture.
I love living in a place where I hear multiple languages spoken in everyday life.
Behind the Aegis
(53,912 posts)There is a move to get the younger generations speaking the various Native languages. It was similar to what I saw in New Orleans in regards to Creole.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Things certainly seem to have changed. It's also interesting that the Cherokees I knew lived just up the road a bit from Tahlequah, around US 62, which in Arkansas tends to follow the Trail of Tears.
Speaking of Trail of Tears, I have been to Tsa-la-gi a couple of times. One time was when my former drama teacher was playing the part of John Ross in the Trail of Tears Pageant.
dsc
(52,146 posts)they imported many vietnamese
treestar
(82,383 posts)I kind of wanted to unkindly laugh at Texas' Republicans. How horrifying to them!
merrily
(45,251 posts)the largest single immigrant group. So, I expected to see Italian in more states.
Maybe, the museum map of the US was indicating only that Italians were the largest group to have passed through Ellis Island; and I am misremembering the meaning of the map.
starroute
(12,977 posts)The Italians who arrived a century ago are pretty well assimilated at this point. I was surprised that Italian showed up as the third most spoken language even in New York and Jersey.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)That really amazes me. They must be including people who just learn in school, because I can count on one hand the number of native French speakers I have ever met here. I would have guessed Korean or Vietnamese.
raccoon
(31,105 posts)CTyankee
(63,880 posts)That might be the reason...
A Little Weird
(1,754 posts)I'm surprised by a lot of states. It would be interesting to know how much these languages are used.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)And who knew the French had such a foothold, either???
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Best damn soup there is, the kale/chorizo/white bean wonder they cook up on the South Shore...
Benzene25
(8 posts)it can be chouriço or chourico. Either is acceptable. . . for every fragment of chouriço's evil sibling that i find i shall kill the cook.
South Shore!! rubbish. go to Fall River and experience soupy perfection.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)I do love that soup!
Especially with fresh Portuguese rolls on the side.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I'm surprised Vietnamese & Tagalog beat out Chinese in places like California, Nevada & Texas
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Considering that chinese population is so big in cal. and in washington state.
Makes me wonder about the accuracy of that map.
hunter
(38,299 posts)A great many of them are war veterans who came here with their families after World War II ended, and many more came here before that as farmworkers, after Spain ceded the Islands to the U.S.A in 1898.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)lpbk2713
(42,729 posts)Most of the rest of US are the foreigners.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)I also had no idea they spoke French in West Virginia.
greendog
(3,127 posts)In Montana all of the Hutterites are German speakers and there are a lot of them. I used to hear it all the time.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)TBF
(31,990 posts)and my dad can remember his grandparents speaking in German (he is about 70 now) - he could understand it when he was young but can't speak it anymore other than a few words. It was very common for the parents/grandparents to still remember some German or Polish when I was growing up.
Here in Texas I'm actually not surprised by the Vietnamese because I have met many folks in hair salons/spas who originally lived in Vietnam. They are more recent immigrants and interestingly many have US-born fathers (obviously the liasons between soldiers/locals during the Vietnam conflict). It is interesting that it includes Oklahoma though - Texas also had a lot of German settlers back in the 1800s and I would have expected more German speakers - maybe it comes in second after the Vietnamese immigrants/speakers (who would be more recent so they may still be teaching Vietnamese to their children).
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Lots of heavily Italian areas around Hartford and New Haven. There are no "French" areas of the state that I remember, even though many areas of CT were divided up that way in the past (Sicilians in Middletown, Italians in Rocky Hill, Jewish were in West Hartford, Polish in New Britain, etc). I can still drive in Middletown, CT and see "Farmacia" for pharmacy on store signs.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)I would have expected it to be Mandarin. But that's a Nashville-centric view. Maybe it's German in the rest of the state.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)Unless they are counting the number of kids who took French in school.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)First languages only.
SteveG
(3,109 posts)live in Maryland and DE
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Immigrants from former French colonies in West Africa and the Caribbean. There are lots of those in MoCo.
The percentage is tiny compared to Spanish, I am sure. We had a lot of trouble trying to find French-language classes and cultural events in upper MoCo, but really had to go into DC to find much.
2naSalit
(86,281 posts)Basque wasn't declared for Idaho. Largest population of Basque in the world outside of the Pyrenees.
dawg
(10,620 posts)Atlanta even has Korean-language television stations.
MineralMan
(146,241 posts)language in Minnesota, and I can believe that. I'm slowly learning to be polite in Hmong, thanks to some children in my neighborhood who come out to pet our dogs when we walk them.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Now South Dakotans have a whole new group to hate on. I swear, it's one of the most racist states in the county.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Alongside French and Spanish.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Iggo
(47,533 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,246 posts)I was puzzled by AL Germans ... then I remembered ... Werner von Braun and the other captured rocket men (H'ville had traffic signs in km back in the '70s) AND Mercedes-Benz.
Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)in North Alabama back in those days according to my grandmother who was born in the 1880s.
eppur_se_muova
(36,246 posts)Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Das ist seltsam.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I was going to guess Yupik, and that's exactly what it is.
catbyte
(34,306 posts)Arabic population around Detroit, though.
Aristus
(66,250 posts)Incredible food. And in many places in Tacoma one can hear the lovely, lyrical chirping of the Vietnamese language.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)There are a lot of Amish in Kentucky. Most speak perfect English in public, but speak German amongst themselves.