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malaise

(268,885 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:17 AM Mar 2012

How do you think the Supremes will rule today

I think they will postpone the decision for a year - to read the bill although I am not sure the activist RW judges give a damn about the 'politics' of their decision.
Still I am hoping they postpone the decision.

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How do you think the Supremes will rule today (Original Post) malaise Mar 2012 OP
I thought we wouldn't know until June. N/t terip64 Mar 2012 #1
Tell me more malaise Mar 2012 #2
they leave many decisions to be announced in June rurallib Mar 2012 #22
They vote today but the result wont be known until June. DCBob Mar 2012 #6
so there's no way the vote itself would leak out? or is that always Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2012 #18
They're meeting in secret to vote. ananda Mar 2012 #3
Thanks n/t malaise Mar 2012 #5
Stop! In the Name of Love GeorgeGist Mar 2012 #4
They're Not Ruling Til At Least June... KharmaTrain Mar 2012 #7
The majority will vote to strike it down.... vi5 Mar 2012 #8
They aren't ruling today jberryhill Mar 2012 #9
What's the snark for? Quantess Mar 2012 #12
What snark? jberryhill Mar 2012 #14
No valid question exists without at least one petulant answer. LanternWaste Mar 2012 #26
funniest line of the day so far. "They are not a DU jury" Thanks for making Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2012 #19
It would take Scalia and Thomas until 2087 TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #10
I didn't follow the proceedings yesterday malaise Mar 2012 #11
Because the media consists of idiots jberryhill Mar 2012 #15
I don't know. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2012 #16
Although the official result wont be known until June I suspect it will get leaked.. DCBob Mar 2012 #13
they claim only the justices know the results? GusFring Mar 2012 #17
Illegal AND stupid jberryhill Mar 2012 #20
integrity? Please. The repubs on the court have none. I bet Thomas will tell someone. His wife? GusFring Mar 2012 #21
Oh, so that's what you meant by this: jberryhill Mar 2012 #23
I meant the right has no integrity, So Kagan or one the lefties GusFring Mar 2012 #24
You won't hear anything today because the ruling is announced in June. WI_DEM Mar 2012 #25

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
22. they leave many decisions to be announced in June
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:22 AM
Mar 2012

Some may actually want to study it a bit - or at least have their clerks do it.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
6. They vote today but the result wont be known until June.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:28 AM
Mar 2012

Its takes a Supreme 3 months to write the "opinion" paper.

ananda

(28,856 posts)
3. They're meeting in secret to vote.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:25 AM
Mar 2012

But we won't know the outcome till June.

Well.. we probably do know but the official
announcement will come then.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
7. They're Not Ruling Til At Least June...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:28 AM
Mar 2012

I doubt there'll be a postponment on this decission and honestly I couldn't and wouldn't want to predict on what the ultimate verdict will be. The past three days of hearing are just the preliminaries...now the Justices will go behind their closed doors in their ivory tower and banter the issues back and forth. It sure looks like this is headed to a 5-4 decission and this will only lead to more politicization...not less.

For the Scalitos, the right wingers on the court know their party is in freefall and this is one of the few lifelines that can be thrown to help...and I expect Kennedy to pay back his rushpublican bosses and we'll see some of the ACA struck down. Then let it become a political issue...let people decide if they want insurance companies playing god. Maybe...just maybe...this is more right wing overreach that will help Democrats sweep the rushpublicans out of power in the House and we can look at revising the bill in the future. If not...then forget about any health care reform for another generation or longer...

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
8. The majority will vote to strike it down....
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:43 AM
Mar 2012

And those of us who saw this coming 2 miles away, while the "grown ups" who we were reminded time and again were constitutional lawyers and who have all the best legal advisers and should have known better will act shocked (SHOCKED I TELL YOU!!!!) that partisan Republicans once again acted like partisan Republicans with no regard for consistency or precedent (even their own precedent).

And then we'll lather, rinse, and repeat again on some other issue.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. They aren't ruling today
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:49 AM
Mar 2012

You know those big long Supreme Court opinions that nobody actually reads? It takes a long time to write them.

They are not a DU jury. The decision *might* most likely issue in June, as most term decisions do. But they can decide to hold over to the next term if they want, and which sometimes happens.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. What snark?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:11 AM
Mar 2012

It takes time to write the opinions and confer on drafts, they are not a trial court which rules at the end of the case, and they can hold over to next term. Thems the facts.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
26. No valid question exists without at least one petulant answer.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:39 AM
Mar 2012

Very few valid question exists without at least one petulant answer designed to trivialize the person who asks.

(and having asked many, many dumb questions throughout my own life, I think I can safely say yours was indeed, not dumb...)

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. funniest line of the day so far. "They are not a DU jury" Thanks for making
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:03 AM
Mar 2012

me laugh ! Maybe WE should start writing long briefs on our DU jury opinions.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
10. It would take Scalia and Thomas until 2087
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:51 AM
Mar 2012

to read the documents, if they even bothered.

I don't think the result will be known until June - at least that's what I read.

malaise

(268,885 posts)
11. I didn't follow the proceedings yesterday
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:53 AM
Mar 2012

but why was the media screaming about a decision this week and its likely impact on Pres Obama and Democrats?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. Because the media consists of idiots
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:13 AM
Mar 2012

Who don't know the difference between the Supreme Court and traffic court.

I used to think that news organizations were "dumbing down" legal reporting because they believed it to be too complex. Now I realize they are just dumb. On almost any legal controversy, the news and commentary are just ghastly.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
16. I don't know.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:41 AM
Mar 2012

To see the speculation flying around everywhere, one would think the decision had been made before the arguments were even presented.

It's all crazy.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
13. Although the official result wont be known until June I suspect it will get leaked..
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:01 AM
Mar 2012

by someone on one of the RW judges staff to the Republican leadership so as to give them a heads up and an advantage on how to plan for the political effects of the decision.

 

GusFring

(756 posts)
17. they claim only the justices know the results?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:54 AM
Mar 2012

You'd think the white house would have a way of asking one of the justices on their side.

Is that legal?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. Illegal AND stupid
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:07 AM
Mar 2012

"Excuse me, your honor, but I'd like to take a shit on the integrity you spent a lifetime developing. Do you mind?"

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. Oh, so that's what you meant by this:
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:27 AM
Mar 2012

"You'd think the white house would have a way of asking one of the justices on their side."

I had not guessed you thought Thomas and the White House were on the same side.

 

GusFring

(756 posts)
24. I meant the right has no integrity, So Kagan or one the lefties
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:32 AM
Mar 2012

might be open to giving a heads up.

But if its not legal, then they probably shouldnt.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
25. You won't hear anything today because the ruling is announced in June.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:37 AM
Mar 2012

The media has been saying this from day one. They are hearing oral arguements and then they will eventually meet in private and then they issue the ruling later this summer.

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