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Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:04 PM Mar 2012

Zimmy's attorney: Police video is "very grainy"...so you don't see the broken nose and blood

MSNBC just played the audio clip, an interview with Zimmerman's attorney.

Trayvon's family is saying that the video proves Zimmerman wasn't "beaten and bloody" when taken into custody.

Zimmerman's attorney says the video is "very grainy" so you can't see his injuries.

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Zimmy's attorney: Police video is "very grainy"...so you don't see the broken nose and blood (Original Post) Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 OP
Did I see a spot on the back of Zimmerman's head in the video MSNBC just showed? Lint Head Mar 2012 #1
That was his blowhole. geardaddy Mar 2012 #2
ROFL! The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2012 #23
LOL Or the eye in th back his head that can see hoodies coming and going. Lint Head Mar 2012 #29
lol, yeah. geardaddy Mar 2012 #31
One spot that looks like it's the size of a dime Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 #4
ZOMG!! I think I see a spot!! Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #6
It was a very small sidewalk. gkhouston Mar 2012 #34
If there is (and I can't see it) Wait Wut Mar 2012 #26
Having watched that video... backscatter712 Mar 2012 #3
Well, surely the police Lisa D Mar 2012 #5
Yes, it would seem like you'd want to document that sort of thing alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #8
Yeah - where are these pictures?? RockaFowler Mar 2012 #17
They keep saying "grainy video" to make us believe it's a grainy video alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #7
Didn't look all that grainy to me. I was easily able to see calimary Mar 2012 #14
EXACTLY This is nearly DV quality. this was exactly what all corporate teleconferencing slampoet Mar 2012 #20
Thank you! It looked damn clear to me. n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #32
I guess the coroner's eyes were grainy too when he couldn't see signs of a fight on Trayvon. alfredo Mar 2012 #9
I believe it was the funeral director, Lisa D Mar 2012 #10
Yes. It's sealed right now. Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #11
Yeah, the autopsy report is not out yet. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #12
It's sealed right now until they can sort out arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #33
Thanks for the clarification. The coroner report needs tobe released alfredo Mar 2012 #50
If Zimmerman said that Trayvon had assaulted him... SwissTony Mar 2012 #13
If I were Zimmerman's attorneys I'd be looking for another gig right now. yardwork Mar 2012 #15
You have a better impression of defense attorney than me. aikoaiko Mar 2012 #25
Unless Zimmerman's family is very wealthy, I don't see an incentive. yardwork Mar 2012 #27
The marketing value is priceless. Court TV and cable news. aikoaiko Mar 2012 #45
I see your point. yardwork Mar 2012 #46
Is there no video from the scene or at least photos? Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #16
is this the same stupid attorney that skipped out on his interview magical thyme Mar 2012 #18
Wow, that was so lame...I cannot believe anyone Rex Mar 2012 #19
I broke my nose once abelenkpe Mar 2012 #21
Mugshot... KansDem Mar 2012 #22
That is a mugshot of Zimmerman from 2005. There is no mugshot of him for shooting Trayvon. yardwork Mar 2012 #24
That confuses me KansDem Mar 2012 #30
I'll let somebody else answer because I'm not an expert, but I do know that he was never arrested. yardwork Mar 2012 #36
He wasn't booked alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #38
He Was Not Booked SoCalMusicLover Mar 2012 #39
He was detained, and was never booked. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #41
I think that is a very important fact Rex Mar 2012 #47
That's from a five year old arrest alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #37
If this mugshot was taken after the Martin incident, why is anyone taking Zimmerman seriously? Arkana Mar 2012 #43
It was so grainy I could see details of Zimmerman's and the police officers' faces and clothes. MoonRiver Mar 2012 #28
Why can't this lawyer just STFU? Mayberry Machiavelli Mar 2012 #35
Ummmm....Because He's A Lawyer SoCalMusicLover Mar 2012 #40
If you study the tape closely you can see the second stitcher Arkana Mar 2012 #42
Can we get some charges filed and a goddamned arrest already?? Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #44
Except that the video is perfectly clear. MrSlayer Mar 2012 #48
+1000 You can even see the scalp shine on ALL four different men. slampoet Mar 2012 #49
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
6. ZOMG!! I think I see a spot!!
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:11 PM
Mar 2012

Laughable.

Zimmerman and his lawyers pretty much claimed that Trayvon beat him to a pulp and he had no choice but to shoot Trayvon.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
26. If there is (and I can't see it)
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:10 PM
Mar 2012

...he could have hit his head getting into the police car. There's still no blood. He still looks damned healthy for someone who just had the crap beat outta him.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
3. Having watched that video...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:07 PM
Mar 2012

If the graininess was enough to cover up his injuries, I'd say he wasn't particularly injured.

Certainly, a broken nose or a black eye or even cuts and abrasions would be visible - the video's fairly high quality.

Lisa D

(1,532 posts)
5. Well, surely the police
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:10 PM
Mar 2012

took detailed photographs to document the injuries that led Zimmerman to shoot a 17 year old in "self-defense". Right?

Funny how we haven't seen those pics. Seems like the police would have publicized them by now.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
8. Yes, it would seem like you'd want to document that sort of thing
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:12 PM
Mar 2012

Shot of his face, his nose, his disastrously lacerated scalp, all of it.

Or did they just hand back the gun of a guy who just killed a kid and send him on his way?

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. They keep saying "grainy video" to make us believe it's a grainy video
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:11 PM
Mar 2012

That's not a very grainy video. It's clear enough.

calimary

(81,209 posts)
14. Didn't look all that grainy to me. I was easily able to see
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:34 PM
Mar 2012

Zimmerman's nose looked nice and straight, no blood - ANYWHERE, no crookedness, no nothing.

What about the wet shirt all covered with grass? Didn't see anything. Didn't see any fabric of his clothing that looked wet or messed up. Where was this? Was the grass just mowed and the clippings not carried away? You'd have stray blades of grass loosening and shedding off him here and there all over the place. None. Where were signs of scuffle on him. Nothing disheveled in the least! Why would he be able to walk upright and with a regular, normal gait after having been in a scuffle like the kind that's been described - wouldn't he be limping a little, or walking with some delicacy? Or maybe a bit bent over or favoring one side or other? Hell, a single workout at my old kickboxing class routinely left me a hobbling pile of wreckage afterwards! Zimmerman looked like he was strolling over to get a cup of coffee across the street.

Seemed pretty damn clear to me, looking carefully at the video I saw. And yeah, there's nothing on the back of his head but what little hair was left after a buzz cut. Seems to me with extremely short hair, you'd be able to see signs of injury, scuffs, cuts, blood - no longer hair present to conceal it.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
20. EXACTLY This is nearly DV quality. this was exactly what all corporate teleconferencing
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:40 PM
Mar 2012

looked like until 4 years ago? Take a look at one of the Old Apple product announcements in 2001, those are around the same quality. Or watch a 70's sitcom on you tube....

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
9. I guess the coroner's eyes were grainy too when he couldn't see signs of a fight on Trayvon.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:13 PM
Mar 2012

There were no signs of bruises or cuts on Trayvon's knuckles.

Lisa D

(1,532 posts)
10. I believe it was the funeral director,
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:20 PM
Mar 2012

not the coroner, who mentioned no signs of bruises or cuts. But is there a coroner's report somewhere?

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
13. If Zimmerman said that Trayvon had assaulted him...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:25 PM
Mar 2012

wouldn't Zimmerman be considered as a victim of assault? Shouldn't the police/medicos have photographed his injuries as a matter of course? Even more so given that the "villain" had been killed?

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
15. If I were Zimmerman's attorneys I'd be looking for another gig right now.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:35 PM
Mar 2012

I expect to see them dropping the case - watch them run.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
25. You have a better impression of defense attorney than me.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:07 PM
Mar 2012

I bet he is getting 20 solicitations for representation every day with each bit of incriminating information.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
45. The marketing value is priceless. Court TV and cable news.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 04:32 PM
Mar 2012

There are lots of criminals out there with deeper pockets who need zealous lawyers to defend the guilty.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
18. is this the same stupid attorney that skipped out on his interview
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:38 PM
Mar 2012

and left Larry interviewing an empty chair?

Sorry, but even a grainy video would show a gray shirt soaked with blood. And if Zimmerman shot Trayvon in the chest at close range as he claims, his gray shirt would be stained bright red. It would be soaked, not just spattered, soaked.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Wow, that was so lame...I cannot believe anyone
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:38 PM
Mar 2012

would be that stupid and say such a thing! The footage is NOT grainy...even though the attorney WISHES it was, that is not the case!

Wow, this is getting so pathetic and sad for the Zimm team...I would crawl back under my rock or go back to chasing ambulances if it was me.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
21. I broke my nose once
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:44 PM
Mar 2012

it swelled up like a strawberry right away and bled like crazy. A couple years ago my four year old fell off her bed and banged her nose (wasn't broken) but it bled like crazy! I took her to the emergency room and she had a visible bump on her nose right away that lasted for days. Based on these experiences I call TOTAL BULLSHIT. Zimmerman is a racist lying twat.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
22. Mugshot...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:49 PM
Mar 2012

http://mugshots.com/Current-Events/George-Zimmerman.html

"Broken nose?"

His hair appears longer in this photo than the video from the police station. Could this one be from another arrest?

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
24. That is a mugshot of Zimmerman from 2005. There is no mugshot of him for shooting Trayvon.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:04 PM
Mar 2012

Zimmerman hasn't been arrested for shooting Trayvon Martin. No recent mugshot. That one is from an arrest in 2005 for assaulting an officer.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
30. That confuses me
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:22 PM
Mar 2012

He is 'cuffed and brought into the police station. One DUer a few days ago commented that it is standard procedure to keep someone 'cuffed until the "booking." It that's the case, then why no mug shot? Aren't mugshots part of the booking process.

This is all so confusing...

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
36. I'll let somebody else answer because I'm not an expert, but I do know that he was never arrested.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:58 PM
Mar 2012

He was brought into the police station for questioning and then released without charges.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
38. He wasn't booked
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 04:03 PM
Mar 2012

That's the problem.

He was brought to the station in cuffs, questioned, and released. The man wasn't booked, so there was no booking procedure. To be "booked" means to be processed into the jail on a specific charge. He was never charged with anything, never booked, never processed. End of story.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
39. He Was Not Booked
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 04:03 PM
Mar 2012

There is no mug shot, because there was no charge and no booking.

They brought him to the station in cuffs, and then after taking a statement, sent him on his way.

No photo, no fingerprints, they were too busy for that stuff.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
47. I think that is a very important fact
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:22 PM
Mar 2012

people are missing or do not know. It clearly looks on camera like he is under arrest. Yet, not so. Also, I read a homicide detective wanted to charge him, but was told by higher up not to press the case.

A lot of rotten fish in that PD.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
44. Can we get some charges filed and a goddamned arrest already??
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 04:15 PM
Mar 2012

Instead of all this he said/she said stuff being played out in the media??

At this rate, there will be a mistrial even before the jury is selected...

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
48. Except that the video is perfectly clear.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:24 PM
Mar 2012

Grainy my ass. You can see Zimmerman's scalp shine clearly. Fuck these liars.

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