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Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:37 AM

We do not need to move to the right to win moderate voters

It has long been the claim of pundits that in order for the Democrats to win votes they need to move to the "center", politicians who in years past identified as DLC and today identify as Blue Dogs or Third Way like to say they represent this center but do they?

No they do not.

It is true that many voters identify as centrists or moderates, but when they say they are moderates they are not saying they want a government run by people who take money from big corporations. They are not saying they want to cut regulations on big business. They are not saying that the Democrats need to move to the right. They are not cheering the TPP or dismissing NSA spying.

The truth is that most people who call themselves moderates are not all that political, they are not the Joe Lieberman type of idealogues who view everyone to the left of them as the extremists pundits would like to pretend they are.

Generally the moderates among the general population are not all that political but they do share some common values with those of us who are. They want decent wages, they want business to treat them fairly and they want government to ensure those businesses do not rip them off, they want access to health care without destroying their budget, they want clean water to drink and clean air to breathe, they want good public schools to send their kids to, they want their roads kept in good maintenance, while they are not all that political they do want a lot of the same things that progressives want.

Every election we are told we need to move right to capture these moderate voters, but we don't need to move right to win their votes we simply need to communicate our common ground with them because there is a ton of common ground. In fact I am convinced that progressives have far more common ground with the moderate voter than Third Way politicians do, moderate voters care more about the day to day problems they see in society than they do about the crap being pushed by corporate funded politicians.

The people who call themselves moderates in national polls are usually a lot different than the politicians in Washington who call themselves moderates, we need to stop allowing the pundits to pretend that moderate voters won't vote for Democrats unless they move to the right.

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Reply We do not need to move to the right to win moderate voters (Original post)
Bjorn Against Apr 2014 OP
Scuba Apr 2014 #1
Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #2
rhett o rick Apr 2014 #10
rrneck Apr 2014 #3
Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #4
socialist_n_TN Apr 2014 #6
Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #8
socialist_n_TN Apr 2014 #9
Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #11
AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #5
lovemydog Apr 2014 #7
Sunlei May 2014 #12

Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:38 AM

1. We need to move to the left to win disaffected voters.

Last mid-term, only 40% of the electorate bothered to vote. Let's give them a reason to vote for Democrats, or better yet, several reasons!

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Response to Scuba (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:39 AM

2. Agreed

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Response to Scuba (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 02:11 PM

10. Right On!

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 10:05 AM

3. Hear hear. +1 nt

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 10:20 AM

4. I think that the Dems had to moderate to win in the 1990's

Not really so much now that the demographics and politics seem to be naturally shifting more towards the left end of the spectrum. I think some Dems and pundits are still trying to catch up to the new reality.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 10:34 AM

6. I agree. All politicians and their handlers, like all generals........

tend to fight the next war like the last war. At least in the beginning of the new one. But it's been 20+ years since the '90s and things have changed greatly, but the political class, and that's both Republicans AND Democrats, are still living in the 90s as far as strategy for winning elections.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:38 AM

8. Yup

I think that the emergence of the Republican Tea Party in 2010 changed the calculus somewhat as well but it's beginning to seem more like a well-funded "fluke" than a long-lasting political realignment (thankfully) but the Republican Tea Party has been able to do a lot of damage in a short time and thanks to getting in power at the right moment to redraw districts, they've been able to somewhat cement their gains for at least a little while, unfortunately.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:58 AM

9. Yes, the Tea Baggers are showing signs of being a flash in the pan with good timing.......

rather than something that will last politically. Unfortunately the dialectic to that is the rise and increased boldness of the militia movement on their right flank. When their political attempts become unpopular, the militant sector takes over and will try to enforce the agenda with weapons rather than laws.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 06:51 PM

11. The militia types- egged on by Wayne LaPierre and Fox worry me

they seem to come out of the woodwork every single time a Democrat wins the WH. I'm really more worried about them than the Bircher esque teabaggers.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 10:31 AM

5. Yep

It's stupid to abandon 90% of your base to woo non Democrats. It's just plain suicidal.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Sat Apr 26, 2014, 10:42 AM

7. Close tax loopholes for most or all

reduce taxes for individuals earning less than (I don't know, 50k or something).

Peace and prosperity.

That's a winning strategy, imho.

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Wed May 28, 2014, 04:43 PM

12. you're right. Ds have always had most moderate votes. Because President Obama IMO, has always....

President Obama has always been a moderate.

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