General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEFF's NSA Time-Line Has Expanded Greatly... But Remember THESE Words... Right After 9-11...
Sep 12, 2001
(Wiebe Declaration, Pg 3)
Ex-NSA Analyst J. Kirk Wiebe recalls: "everything changed at the NSA after the attacks on September 11. The prior approach focused on complying with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act ("FISA" . The post-September 11 approach was that NSA could circumvent federal statutes and the Constitution as long as there was some visceral connection to looking for terrorists."
While another ex-NSA analyst also remembers: "The individual liberties preserved in the US Constitution were no longer a consideration <at the NSA>."
Link: https://www.eff.org/document/wiebe-declaration-support-plaintiffs-motion
And...
Oct 4, 2011
('Bush's Law' by Eric Lichtblau)
"Twenty-three days after the Twin Towers fell, President Bush signed off on a secret eavesdropping operation so sensitive that even many of the country's senior national security officials, men and women with highest security clearances in his administration, knew nothing about it."
Link: http://www.amazon.com/Bushs-Law-Remaking-American-Justice/dp/0307280543/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354752122&sr=8-1
EFF Timeline: https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.
Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)To set you strait, that this was all legal, and we already knew about it...because once you know about it, it becomes legal automatically.
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)Tonight's episode is awesome.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)It was good to see someone not beating the drums for "bad Muslims" and for more torture, for a change.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Hillary voted against.
lastlib
(23,197 posts)Yes, this means YOU, Agent Mike. Come an' get me! I have no doubt my seat at Gitmo is still reserved.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)In May 2006, USA TODAY reported that the three telecommunication carriers, AT&T, Verizon, and BellSouth had cooperated with the National Security Agency to secretly amass a database of phone call records of tens of millions of Americans (Cauley, 2006). The information was then analyzed to detect calling patterns in an effort to thwart terrorism. Following the reporting of this story, Mr. Nacchios attorney, Herbert Swan, released a statement that said the government had approached Qwest Communications to turn over customers calling records:
Mr. Nacchio was convicted in April 2007 of 19 counts of insider trading; selling shares of Qwest stock before the value dropped.
In October 2007, the Rocky Mountain News, the Washington Post, and the New York Times reported that in court filings made by Mr. Nacchio, the National Security Agency had approached Qwest Communications to turn over customers call records on February 27, 2001, nearly seven months before the terrorist attacks (Burnett & Smith, 2007, Nakashima & Eggen, 2007, Shane, 2007).
In return for cooperating, Mr. Nacchio asserts, Qwest Communications would receive lucrative government contracts (Burnett & Smith, 2007, Nakashima & Eggen, 2007, Shane, 2007).
Mr. Nacchios conviction, he contends, was retaliation for refusing to cooperate with the government (Burnett & Smith, 2007, Nakashima & Eggen, 2007, Shane, 2007).
U.S. District Judge Edward W. Nottingham would not permit the classified information about the contracts into the court, thereby sinking Mr. Nacchios retaliation defense (Burnett & Smith, 2007). In March 2008, a federal appeals court overturned the 19 insider trading convictions after concluding that the trial judge improperly excluded expert testimony that would have helped Mr. Nacchio advance his defense (Johnson, 2008).
Here is some information regarding Judge Nottingham:
http://www.9news.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=102682&catid=188
In September 2007, Jeanne Elliot told 9Wants to Know that Nottingham parked in a handicapped parking space. After she blocked his vehicle in the space with her wheelchair, Elliot said Nottingham put his car in reverse.
"I could tell from his back-up lights going on and I thought, 'Oh boy! He's going to back over me," Elliott told 9NEWS in October 2007.
Elliott also claims that Nottingham told her, "If you don't get out of my way, I'm a federal judge and I'm going to call the U.S. Marshals and have them arrest you."
In a written statement, Nottingham said he regrets parking in the space, "But respectfully disagrees with the remainder of Ms. Elliott's version of this incident."
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/23/complaint-still-hangs-over-judge/
A piece of U.S. District Court Judge Edward Nottingham's legal troubles is still unresolved before a state ethics panel, despite his resignation from the bench.
Nottingham stepped down Tuesday amid allegations of judicial misconduct involving a prostitute. The allegations were being investigated by the 10th Circuit Court Judicial Council.
A Minnesota man who has tangled with Nottingham in a federal court case filed the same charges last April with the state's Attorney Regulation Council, which investigates ethical complaints against lawyers.
A negative ruling by that panel could be a roadblock if Nottingham decides to resume practicing law in Colorado.
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/10/21/federal-judge-edward-nottingham-resigns-amid-misconduct-allegations/?
This just in, from the Rockies: Federal Judge Edward Nottingham, who oversaw the insider trading trial of former Qwest CEO Joseph Nacchio, has resigned, according to the 10th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.
His resignation comes amid an investigation of complaints of judicial misconduct on the part of Nottingham (pictured), according to a statement from the appeals court. The complaints were lodged in August 2007, the court said, and since then additional allegations developed and subsequent misconduct complaints were filed. The courts committees conducted a thorough and extensive investigation, interviewed many witnesses, considered voluminous documentation, and conducted two hearings, according to the statement.
Judge Nottingham so far has not returned a call to his chambers.
According to the Rocky Mountain News, the judges attorney issued this statement: He is deeply remorseful for his actions. He is also embarrassed and ashamed for any loss of confidence caused by those actions and attendant publicity and sincerely apologies to the public and the judiciary.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)snot
(10,518 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Do you understand the ramifications of this if it were true?
It would be like going back to the old days when the head of the FBI - Hoover- kept tabs on everyone, only now they have massive computers to help.
If this were true it would mean no one is safe from being blackmailed. Do you even understand what that means? That no one is safe from Big Brother.
Sorry Willy, I am going to have to get on the side of all those who are protecting the NSA. It is the only safe place to be - on the side of the Big Boys who will fuck you up if they get just a little wild hair and want to fuck you up. They have the power.
Hoover for president!!