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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:44 PM Apr 2014

"DU in the Early Days..Mike Ruppert was an Important Person.. Here's a Tribute!

I couldn't find a better way to give links to Ruppert's Early Works and for a Eulogy of Mike Ruppert than THIS! If anyone finds better..please post in thread. I don't wan't Mike's Suicide to over-ride what his LIFE stood for.

Please SEE:

http://cherispeak.wordpress.com/2014/04/15/crossing-over-the-rubicon-r-i-p-michael-c-ruppert/

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"DU in the Early Days..Mike Ruppert was an Important Person.. Here's a Tribute! (Original Post) KoKo Apr 2014 OP
Wow. Download his book, Crossing the Rubicon, here: NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #1
I think you joined DU well after the horror we went through after Clinton Attacks and then KoKo Apr 2014 #2
I remember Ruppert well. I bought the book too and it was a magnificent read. Whisp Apr 2014 #3
well said Whisp. bbgrunt Apr 2014 #13
"Collapse" is on Youtube for free nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #18
"He never forgot this country was founded by people that thought for themselves KoKo Apr 2014 #22
Thanks for this, I've been meaning to see it... 2banon Apr 2014 #36
Thanks for the links for those who haven't had a chance to read... KoKo Apr 2014 #33
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #4
Thanks! Truly! KoKo Apr 2014 #5
As I said before, I remember him well and was truly saddened to hear of his death. I'm sure he sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #23
Can't give up... KoKo Apr 2014 #25
I agree that giving up is not an option. Too many injustices that need to be addressed, too many sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #27
Thank you, KoKo! Mr. Ruppert called 'em as he saw 'em. Octafish Apr 2014 #6
Thank You!..this was a reasoned discussion (IMHO) of Ruppert's TRUTH and the Demons KoKo Apr 2014 #9
Thanks, KoKo. Delphinus Apr 2014 #7
IMHO, Mike's enormous contribution to the debate was this: Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #8
Here's what I think Ruppert Saw..and my DSL Cuts out..but here's the link...if it comes through. KoKo Apr 2014 #12
...to the Neon God they made... Junkdrawer Apr 2014 #14
Powerful. Thanks. I couldnt listen to the complete song. Too hard. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #34
yeah...so long ago...and it's still true.... KoKo Apr 2014 #44
Thanks for the post. ctsnowman Apr 2014 #10
Thanks KoKo. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2014 #11
thanks KoKo for starting this thread bbgrunt Apr 2014 #15
Calling all Angels...Indeed... KoKo Apr 2014 #16
Absolutely...and eternal peace to you, Michael... elzenmahn Apr 2014 #17
...the tools he left...and whatever happened in his later life his legacy will be rememered..... KoKo Apr 2014 #20
That was beautifully stated...thank you. Raksha Apr 2014 #41
You're in for a treat when you start on Crossing The Rubicon... elzenmahn Apr 2014 #45
Thank you, I remember him well. I saw the news of his death on RT today. Abby Martin cried as she sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #19
Thank you Sabrina...I saw Abby's Report on RT... KoKo Apr 2014 #21
Another voice gone silent nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #24
All those who dare to speak the truth seem to meet with untimely deaths or end up being smeared sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #26
Thanks KoKo.. nice tribute.. 2banon Apr 2014 #28
Thank you for sharing your experience with meeting him... KoKo Apr 2014 #29
A true voice from the wilderness.. 2banon Apr 2014 #35
thanks koko. I felt a hole in my stomach when I found out another warrior left us xiamiam Apr 2014 #30
I know...the old warriors. But, the legacy they left will live on...I truly believe. KoKo Apr 2014 #31
the term, "from the wilderness" G_j Apr 2014 #39
Ah... what a shame and a great loss. femmocrat Apr 2014 #32
UPDATE 2: Suicide note inside... Also, Mike's email instructing his friend to call sherriff... ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #37
Kick for added info... nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #40
Thank you for this additional information. Raksha Apr 2014 #42
thank you KoKo G_j Apr 2014 #38
Kick for the New Information. Thanks for this UPDATE! KoKo Apr 2014 #43
Thanks for this KoKo madfloridian Apr 2014 #46
yes........... KoKo Apr 2014 #47
Ruppert was a gem Oilwellian Apr 2014 #48
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Wow. Download his book, Crossing the Rubicon, here:
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:54 PM
Apr 2014

He chose his time.

The song and video on your site, Calling all Angels, is beautiful

Crossing the Rubicon Download: http://www.scribd.com/doc/8032220/Crossing-the-Rubicon-by-Michael-Ruppert#

Or read online here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/8032220/Crossing-the-Rubicon-by-Michael-Ruppert

Recommended.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. I think you joined DU well after the horror we went through after Clinton Attacks and then
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 07:19 PM
Apr 2014

"9/11"... For a few years "From the Wilderness" & "Mad Cow Productions" and "Media Whores Online" and "Buzzfash" were ALL WE HAD for PROGRESSIVE MEDIA.

It's all NOW...considered "CT Sites" or the sites WENT DOWN...to be BANNED from Progressive Media.

But his "Collapse Video" is worth a watch...because it challenges our minds to think further...and I think that it will hold up many years later.

Might not be "your thing" and I'm a skeptical person...but it was good stuff for it's time.

These days it's all "Revisionist History."

I'm not comfortable with either.

Thanks for your post!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
3. I remember Ruppert well. I bought the book too and it was a magnificent read.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 07:26 PM
Apr 2014

I get very uneasy with all this uber labeling of sites as conspiratorial lately. I mean there is a world of difference between Lizard Men in Congress with Panties on their Heads and the kind of stuff Ruppert wrote about but they are all treated the same here lately.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
18. "Collapse" is on Youtube for free
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:14 PM
Apr 2014


RIP Michael Ruppert and thanks for all the work.
He never forgot this country was founded by people that thought for themselves and questioned authority

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
22. "He never forgot this country was founded by people that thought for themselves
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:28 PM
Apr 2014

..and questioned authority." AS YOU SAY.

yes...that was what he was telling us. And in those dark days of "9/11 Patriot Fervor" where some of us just didn't understand why we should get onboard the Bush/Cheney Bandwagon for "Rah, Rah War and More War" he was there and Questioning. And, many of us "Questioned" but had no where to go because "THEY" were pushing us to war.

He was one of the few who stood up against them. And he's been proven correct...imho.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
33. Thanks for the links for those who haven't had a chance to read...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:35 PM
Apr 2014

and the videos linked in the OP..for his features. It's heavy stuff...but, then that was the load that Mike carried inside himself.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. Thanks! Truly!
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 07:31 PM
Apr 2014

Not many left here who remember this guy and what he contributed to the "Net Roots" Investigation. And,...thank you for this.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. As I said before, I remember him well and was truly saddened to hear of his death. I'm sure he
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:34 PM
Apr 2014

felt betrayed over the past few years, as many of us do. But he was right and so were we. He had courage when so many were afraid.

Those were dark days indeed, but in many ways, I preferred them to where we are today, because back then we had HOPE that the criminals WOULD be brought to justice. Everyone on the left was unified in their condemnation of Bush foreign policies. Today, not so much.

Now, that hope has been obliterated. The criminals walk free while the heroes, like Manning eg, sit in jail.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
25. Can't give up...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:45 PM
Apr 2014

I think that that's what the PTB want. Get us so depressed with "inaction" over criminality that we become compliant because we are without hope. There is still hope out there beyond this...small steps...grassroots. I don't think we can see the change because it's subtle...gone underground...not here on the places we've been for years. Well...that's just what I think...And..no way..we should give up. Breaks from time to time so we don't just get crazy depressed. But, not give up... Reorganize..whatever.

But..yeah...it's not easy...


sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
27. I agree that giving up is not an option. Too many injustices that need to be addressed, too many
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:55 PM
Apr 2014

victims to be compensated for their suffering, justice would help them more than anything.

I have faith that justice will be done. I look at Latin America where it took 50 years in some cases to finally begin the process of holding their criminals accountable.

War crimes do not go away no matter how hard they try to dismiss them.

I haven't given up, but am truly saddened by some on the Left who appear to have gone over to the dark side, and then I remeind myself, they truly are a minority.

Thanks for all you do to keep the focus on the important issues. Too many are willing to 'look forward', for now.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
9. Thank You!..this was a reasoned discussion (IMHO) of Ruppert's TRUTH and the Demons
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 08:08 PM
Apr 2014

which Dogged Him & "Truth to Power," which we all admired him for..(those DU'ers who Remember those Days)...

I liked that it attributed his work. I liked that it didn't make his Death a CT Thing.

Mike had many Demons...but, it never should overcome his Original Posts and Work. I don't want his Death to be forgotten...bogged down in some kind of "Blow Back" of forces against what Mike Ruppert stood for.

For Better or For Worse......Ruppert was a voice that Woke Folks Up! And he stand as a Hero for his "Early Calls." Whether he went "off the rails" at times doesn't discount his BODY OF WORK for us to Parse Through. Whether one is "Committed or Not" to the views he expressed when he was alive!

I don't want his voice to go for "Nothing." ... Because the Prophets are Written on the Subway Walls and in Tenement Walls and the WALLS OF SILENCE. (Simon and Garfunkle in the late 60
s).



Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
7. Thanks, KoKo.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 07:54 PM
Apr 2014

I am really saddened by his death - I used to read From the Wilderness and also appreciated his movie Collapse.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
8. IMHO, Mike's enormous contribution to the debate was this:
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 08:07 PM
Apr 2014

The Powers That Be didn't do those things solely because of enormous greed or ambition...they did them because they couldn't see any other way to resolve the problems they hid.

In short, they were acts of desperation trying to maintain an unsustainable way of life we all live. A way of life where they rule.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
12. Here's what I think Ruppert Saw..and my DSL Cuts out..but here's the link...if it comes through.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 08:40 PM
Apr 2014

I posted it above ...but, not sure it went through.

This Haunts Me.......!

HERE:

The Sound of Silence (Original Version from 1964) And the Best Version......imho.


Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
14. ...to the Neon God they made...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 08:56 PM
Apr 2014

BTW: I agree. Some songs shouldn't be over-produced. Cheapens them. A Man Needs a Maid is a classic example.

bbgrunt

(5,281 posts)
15. thanks KoKo for starting this thread
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 08:59 PM
Apr 2014

This is very sad news. I greatly admired Mr. Ruppert and his tenacity and courage despite what it cost him. He was a truth teller extroadinaire and a true hero of our times.

I was disappointed when he withdrew his interest in 9-11 for the concern about peak oil and collapse because in my view they are intricately related. He however, always tried to help open eyes. He will be missed. Calling all angels.....



KoKo

(84,711 posts)
16. Calling all Angels...Indeed...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:08 PM
Apr 2014

and thanks for understanding what this post was about in honoring Ruppert for what he gave to us.

And, it was significant for getting many to Tune In...to what was going on. I hope he will not be forgotten.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
17. Absolutely...and eternal peace to you, Michael...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:13 PM
Apr 2014

...you told the truth at a very high personal cost: your health, your ability to earn a living, your peace of mind, and now ultimately, your life. You were responsible for some of the best investigative journalism this country has produced (specifically, the From The Wilderness newsletter, Crossing The Rubicon, and others), and you did not sell out your convictions. You left tools for us to use in the continuing struggle against rampant corporatism and consumerism that is destroying our planet as I write this. You left a positive mark on me, and I'm sure millions of others like me who see what's coming, in large part because of your work.

I wish I would have had the opportunity to meet you. Now that I no longer have that chance, I can only say in absentia:

Thank you, Michael C. Ruppert. For Everything.
And Rest in Eternal Peace.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
20. ...the tools he left...and whatever happened in his later life his legacy will be rememered.....
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:19 PM
Apr 2014

and I think he'd be smiling about that......

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
41. That was beautifully stated...thank you.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 01:50 AM
Apr 2014

You spoke for me too. I followed "From the Wilderness" for a number of years, but never read Crossing the Wilderness, although I will in the very near future. Nobody who read Mike Ruppert's writing could fail to be impressed by his courage and integrity.

R.I.P. Michael C. Ruppert - a true American hero.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
45. You're in for a treat when you start on Crossing The Rubicon...
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 10:31 PM
Apr 2014

...because this text is meticulously researched, documented, and sourced. Much of the research was original-source, meaning that he interviewed many of the subjects himself. He makes a very strong case against the Bush Administration for their actions surrounding 9-11, especially Dick Cheney.

He once said, in a seminar he gave (which is up on Youtube), that he felt secure enough about Crossing the Rubicon that he could take it to a DA, and say that he wants to press charges for first-degree murder with special circumstances. Knowing his reputation for dotting his i-s and crossing his t-s, and considering the quality of this work, I would not doubt him.

But don't take my word for it - see for yourself.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
19. Thank you, I remember him well. I saw the news of his death on RT today. Abby Martin cried as she
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:17 PM
Apr 2014

reported it.

I did not know he committed suicide, that is so sad. But who can blame people who tried to warn us about the downfall of this country and who later were called 'conspiracy theorists' despite all the evidence to the contrary?

RIP, Michael, you were a ray of hope in the long, dark days that began the downward slide of this country under one of the most corrupt administrations ever.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
21. Thank you Sabrina...I saw Abby's Report on RT...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:21 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:33 PM - Edit history (1)

I was breaking down crying with her. It is a sad experience...for sure.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
24. Another voice gone silent
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:40 PM
Apr 2014
I did not know he committed suicide


That's what we're being told anyway. Maybe it's a fact. Who knows.

Hastings drove into a tree at 4 am after telling his friend he was afraid to drive his car too. And Gary Webb- the guy that broke the CIA Cocaine story "Dark Alliance" in the SJ Mercury news- shot himself TWICE in the head.


Gary Webb

"Trust No One"

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
26. All those who dare to speak the truth seem to meet with untimely deaths or end up being smeared
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:49 PM
Apr 2014

so badly they often choose to become silent.

I have not read reports of his death yet, I just heard about it on RT from Abby Martin and was shocked and saddened by it.

It's amazing how all the criminals are alive and well and richer than ever. Cheney even has a new heart!!

We LOVE our War and Wall St criminals here and we hate our Whistle Blowers and Journalists.

Something is very wrong here obviously when all the good guys end up in jail or dead while the criminals thrive and are treated like elder statesmen.

I am hopeful that one day the criminals will be held accountable, even if it is after their deaths and that those who tried to tell the truth will be honored.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
28. Thanks KoKo.. nice tribute..
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:55 PM
Apr 2014

I had a chance meeting with him a number of years ago.. during " From the Wilderness days, lots of things happened, then he left the country went to live in Venezuela, next thing I knew he was in Canada for medical treatment for a serious illness, then recuperating somewhere in New York. Lost track. Didn't know he was in Napa, but I'm glad he was someplace peaceful and beautiful to make his journey to the other side.

Thanks again KoKo..

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
29. Thank you for sharing your experience with meeting him...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:15 PM
Apr 2014

he was a tormented person, for sure.. but...then there are lots of us out here who questioned and were tormented with questions after "9/11" but, didn't have his visibility once he started down his road to inform folks.

I think like all who seek truth...and see things from a Big Picture...another angle...they suffer. Unless they have big backing and power they see often themselves as fighting alone. I wonder if Mike didn't see himself that way and with whatever was in his life he kept fighting against...it just got to be too much. But, he did good when he was up to it. And...what better way to be remembered. And, those of us who know how he was a voice when there were few...send him our good vibes for wherever he is...that he chose to move on to... when it was time for him to move on.

for Mike..

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
35. A true voice from the wilderness..
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 11:34 PM
Apr 2014

My former partner was a researcher and worked with Mike, during the early days when he was still living/working in L.A..

They both were tormented from the same demons. It's going to be hard for some to accept Mike made this final journey on his own, but I have no doubts in this, so very sad to say. I suppose there will be a memorial, will it be in Napa? Keep us posted on those details if you can.

Thanks again..

xiamiam

(4,906 posts)
30. thanks koko. I felt a hole in my stomach when I found out another warrior left us
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:16 PM
Apr 2014

I didnt even know his death would make me cry. I sobbed, as if I had lost a close friend. I am awed by courage in all of its forms. Mike Ruppert had the heart of a lion. May he RIP and know how very appreciative I am for what he taught us.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
31. I know...the old warriors. But, the legacy they left will live on...I truly believe.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:31 PM
Apr 2014

And...that's why they were teachers. Ruppert asked us to QUESTION. That was his legacy for me...anyways.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
39. the term, "from the wilderness"
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:04 AM
Apr 2014

was exactly accurate. That's where the courageous questions begin.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
32. Ah... what a shame and a great loss.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:34 PM
Apr 2014

Thanks for letting us know, KoKo. I remember "From the Wilderness" back in the early days. I recently did a search to see what happened to it. Damn.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
37. UPDATE 2: Suicide note inside... Also, Mike's email instructing his friend to call sherriff...
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 11:56 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:40 AM - Edit history (2)

I am in shock and I am saddened.

I'm listening to his last show after which he killed himself.

I don't know what to say.

RIP, Mr. Ruppert.

http://lifeboathour.podbean.com/

UPDATE 1: Here is one of two suicide notes Mike left for the person on whose property he killed himself:


SOURCE: http://cherispeak.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/michael-c-ruppert-suicide-note-released/


http://cherispeak.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/michael-c-ruppert-suicide-note-released/
...

Michael Ruppert left two handwritten notes, one of which was a very personal note to his girlfriend/life partner and is a personal letter that will not be shared, at least not any time in the near future. Miller stresses the letter,

“…contained clear statements confessing his impending suicide.”

The second note was written to Jack Martin, the friend with which Michael was staying at the time of his death and here for you to see…

...


UPDATE 2: Email from Mike asking his friend to get the sherriff and then come to the "blue and white GMC"...

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
42. Thank you for this additional information.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 01:57 AM
Apr 2014

I read the handwritten farewell note at the link in the OP, but the email wasn't posted there at the time I read it.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
46. Thanks for this KoKo
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:38 AM
Apr 2014

I remember the many discussions we had here about his writings. It's sad to me to see so many people we used to listen to and treat with respect....treated like nutty people here now.

I just hate it. A word of criticism or questioning of the administration is enough put someone else under the proverbial bus.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
47. yes...........
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:32 PM
Apr 2014
..but we will still keep going....it's important to do. As you know..

Thought this is worth a weekend retrospective as the link has links to his voice. I know many won't care...but for those of us who are oldtimers here on DU...it's a bit of our HISTORY.

We can't forget and we move foward however we can with the "information" we've gleaned through our years.
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