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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:42 PM Apr 2014

Oh That Is Rich... Christians, Constitution Freed The Slaves, Not The Federal Government - RawStory

Conservative activist: Christians, Constitution freed the slaves, not the federal government
By Travis Gettys - RawStory
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 13:53 EDT



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The head of the conservative Heritage Foundation claimed the Constitution and people of conscience freed the American slaves, reported Right Wing Watch, not the federal government.

Jim DeMint, the former Republican senator from South Carolina, told a religious broadcaster last week that liberals were fundamentally wrong about everything – even demonstrable historical facts.

“No liberal is going to win a debate that big government freed the slaves,” DeMint said during an appearance on Vocal Point.


In fact, President Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation freeing slaves in the rebellious Confederate States of America, and Congress approved the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which abolished slavery originally permitted by the founding document.

These federal government policies were enacted during and after federal troops fought and won the Civil War, which began in DeMint’s home state.

“The reason that the slaves were eventually freed was the Constitution, it was like the conscience of the American people,” DeMint told host Jerry Newcombe, of Truth In Action Ministries. “Unfortunately there were some court decisions like Dred Scott and others that defined some people as property, but the Constitution kept calling us back to ‘all men are created equal and we have inalienable rights’ in the minds of God.”

DeMint insisted the end of slavery was the result of a grass-roots movement driven by Christians.


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More: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/09/conservative-activist-christians-constitution-freed-the-slaves-not-the-federal-government/



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Oh That Is Rich... Christians, Constitution Freed The Slaves, Not The Federal Government - RawStory (Original Post) WillyT Apr 2014 OP
That's why I voted for Alvin Greene as opposed to Demint when I was there... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #1
"belly button lint is better than Jim Demint!" - Outstanding... ROFLMAO !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #4
Hey! That rhymes! Initech Apr 2014 #20
And, Heritage is the "brain trust" for the righties montanacowboy Apr 2014 #2
Yeah... Huh ??? WillyT Apr 2014 #5
Whats with Rethugs obsession with slavery and vaginas? SummerSnow Apr 2014 #3
I Think I Get What You're Saying... Would It Be Inappropriate To Ask For More Info... WillyT Apr 2014 #10
Its two of their favorite talking points. SummerSnow Apr 2014 #12
Gotcha... They Want To Go Back... Not To The 1950's... But The 1850's... WillyT Apr 2014 #13
So I suppose the Union Army was just "helping the Constitution" along when they fought and died for CTyankee Apr 2014 #6
No those Yankees were the Aggressors....they were oppressing the Southerners with their VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #7
Yep. I grew up in Texas so I know this stuff...ACK... CTyankee Apr 2014 #8
Pssst... Isn't The U.S. Constitution... The Federal Government ??? WillyT Apr 2014 #9
The fricken' Union Army...sheesh... CTyankee Apr 2014 #11
CTyankee is correct..."fricken Union Army" freed the slaves. Stuart G Apr 2014 #15
Meanwhile back at the house SevenSixtyTwo Apr 2014 #14
Jim Dimwit talking Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #16
soon enough Lincoln's campaign will have been financed rurallib Apr 2014 #17
He doesn't know the difference... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #18
There aren't enough facepalms to describe this kind of bat shit insanity. Initech Apr 2014 #19
C'mon, Jimmy boy, open up a history book. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #21
I can't believe that he's that stupid and/or uneducated steve2470 Apr 2014 #22
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
1. That's why I voted for Alvin Greene as opposed to Demint when I was there...
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:44 PM
Apr 2014

because I said "belly button lint is better than Jim Demint!"

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
4. "belly button lint is better than Jim Demint!" - Outstanding... ROFLMAO !!!
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:49 PM
Apr 2014


I might have to steal that.






 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
10. I Think I Get What You're Saying... Would It Be Inappropriate To Ask For More Info...
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:59 PM
Apr 2014

Or a rephrasing...




CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
6. So I suppose the Union Army was just "helping the Constitution" along when they fought and died for
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:51 PM
Apr 2014

black citizens of DeMint's state. What a sad case of revisionism of American history...

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
7. No those Yankees were the Aggressors....they were oppressing the Southerners with their
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:54 PM
Apr 2014

fancy Northern ways....They teach down there that the Civil War had nothing to do with Slavery only calling it the "War of Northern Aggression" (seriously they believe this)

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
9. Pssst... Isn't The U.S. Constitution... The Federal Government ???
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 07:57 PM
Apr 2014

Or did I miss something?

And... "What a sad case of revisionism of American history..."

EXACTLY !!!








CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
11. The fricken' Union Army...sheesh...
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:01 PM
Apr 2014

when ya got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow...

sorry to be so graphic but it took a war to do this thing and that's is what happened...or does DeMint have another explanation for the Civil War?

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
15. CTyankee is correct..."fricken Union Army" freed the slaves.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:54 PM
Apr 2014

They won an area, went to where slaves were, and freed them. The South lost, but the Army actually did the freeing of the slaves.
You know, you put a gun to the head of a slave owner, and oh well................It was a awful war, beyond almost all thoughts of current people.. (I used to teach that section, that is it.)

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
18. He doesn't know the difference...
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 09:12 PM
Apr 2014

between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. And this man was a United States Senator.

And "movement driven by Christians"? Not so much. The Southern Baptist Convention (which is one of the dominant Christian churches in the South) only exists at all because they split from the National Baptists over...slavery. The Southern Baptists used that bit about the children of Ham being "hewers of wood and drawers of water" to justify slavery. So did DeMint's own denomination, the Presbyterians (another denomination that split between north and south over slavery).

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
21. C'mon, Jimmy boy, open up a history book.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 09:32 PM
Apr 2014

Yes, it may be true that quite a few abolitionists were religious, and that there was a general movement of conscientious Americans opposed to slavery even if they didn't consider themselves overt abolitionists.

However, though, he gets everything else rather wrong: There were those abolitionists who were *not* all that religious at all. And churches actually split over the issue of slavery. And also, Lincoln did in fact, free the slaves on his own initiative. And it was the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments that put this into action, but only nearly 80 years after the Constitution was first signed.

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