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kpete

(71,980 posts)
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 01:39 PM Apr 2014

Jeb Will NEVER Be President

W is responsible for the complete destruction of Iraq, the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, the deaths of thousands of our troops, the theft of the oil that belongs to the Iraqi people, the torture and maiming of thousands of insurgents that were trying to protect their country and families, leaving the Middle East unstable and violent, etc., etc., etc. Those were not mistakes, those were deliberate acts, the acts of a very evil man. And he doesn't regret a damn thing.


In his recently released memoir Decision Points, George W. Bush admitted that he enthusiastically authorized that certain detainees be waterboarded – or tortured, a crime under domestic and international law. When asked if he would authorize the torture of one detainee, former U.S. president Bush declared “Damn right!” The release of Bush’s memoir coincides with reports that no one will face criminal charges for the destruction of CIA videotapes which contained interrogations using waterboarding.


http://ccrjustice.org/bush-openly-confesses-torture-authorization-no-prosecutions-cia-tape-destruction-why-we-care

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Barbara knows that the main reason "W" is no longer vilified is that he is out-of-sight and thus out-of-mind. The Tea Party hates him because he ran up the national debt, and did part D of Medicare. A large fraction of the country despises him for not reacting at all to threats that led to 9/11, for abandoning the Afghan war when we might have finished it off, lying us instead into the Iraq War (costing thousands of lives, limbs and over $1 trillion), for Katrina, for the economic collapse that wiped out trillions of dollars of boomer and X-er wealth, and left millennials without gainful employment. And, that was only the big stuff that we read about.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/two-bushes-two-recessions_b_4654167.html

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Oh, and Did I mention The TORTURE REPORT:




The report also says that harsh interrogation was used on many more of the 119 detainees in CIA custody than the 30 that the agency has acknowledged, and that CIA officers used unapproved methods and were not punished, McClatchy's Washington bureau reported. The report also says that the CIA misled the Justice Department and public on how brutal the interrogations really were, McClatchy reported.


Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/04/06/3860765/editorial-the-whole-truth-on-cia.html?sp=/99/274/#storylink=cpy


but then again,
THIS HAPPENED:


2000



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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. Rove helped Bush steal the election.
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 08:01 PM
Apr 2014

Bush never was a legitimate president.
but..interestingly....he was not the first President to steal an election.

The election of 1824 involved three major figures in American history, and was decided in the House of Representatives.
One man won, one helped him win, and one stormed out of Washington denouncing the entire affair as “the corrupt bargain.”
Until the disputed election of 2000, the dubious election of 1824 was the most controversial election in American history.


A quick read, a memorable issue.
http://history1800s.about.com/od/leaders/a/electionof1824.htm

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
10. I would say that the election of 1876 was more dubious than the 1824 election
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 01:33 AM
Apr 2014

The Republicans stole it outright from Samuel Tilden. When the Democrats protested, the Republicans countered by offering to end Reconstruction in return for a Hayes presidency. For the 4 years of his term, Hayes was often referred to as "His Fraudulency".

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. You are right!
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:59 AM
Apr 2014

THAT was the one I was thinking of.

I have this great book that presents an overview of every Presidential election, and where the 1876 one was discussed.
It also demonstrates that elections and politics were not any more cleaner or polite than the ones we have experienced in the last few decades.

struggle4progress

(118,270 posts)
7. IMO Jeb could win only by more brazenly and obviously stealing the election than W did
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 08:08 PM
Apr 2014

So if Jeb ends up as the GOP nominee, I'll be telling everybody I meet, "Look out! They think they can steal it again!"

gristy

(10,667 posts)
9. Jeb and others are being promoted right now just so that the guy they do end up picking
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 12:42 AM
Apr 2014

looks sane and reasonable in comparison. Do not be fooled.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. Happily, the pundits are writing that Christie's chances just died.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:02 AM
Apr 2014

but Cruz....that male Palin is still trying to be a candidate.

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