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The Dirty Fucking Hippies Were Right ! (Original Post) steve2470 Mar 2014 OP
Proud SamKnause Mar 2014 #1
+1 nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #3
Thanks for posting. madaboutharry Mar 2014 #2
glad I could help :) nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #4
Oh, yes we were Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #5
I was actually about ten years too young to be a hippy but... steve2470 Mar 2014 #6
I'm a little older than you but missed that era as well. It's funny where I grew brewens Mar 2014 #31
hippie era arrived in Orlando about 1970 or so steve2470 Mar 2014 #34
Heck! Yavapai Mar 2014 #49
I was in the middle of it. LOL. Orlando was a cool place to be in those days. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #81
oh wow steve2470 Mar 2014 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #83
back then I lived closest to Winter Park nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #84
Small world! nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #85
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #41
DFH Forever! tea and oranges Mar 2014 #68
Fuuuuuuuuuck Yeah!!! Peace AND Love. We got the solutions that work. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #7
Thank You mtasselin Mar 2014 #8
post this every month ? nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #11
Indeed we were! hermetic Mar 2014 #9
my pleasure ! nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #12
Mmmm yeah! Meadow posies toby jo Mar 2014 #23
And we still are right... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2014 #10
thanks great site Locrian Mar 2014 #17
My pleasure! N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2014 #26
I'm proud to say madokie Mar 2014 #13
What do you say about Hippies literally spitting on troops returning from brewens Mar 2014 #32
I've heard the same thing nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #35
I can see that metaphorically, feeling that they were "spit on" but was there ever a court brewens Mar 2014 #38
ONE idiot out of millions might have done it.... steve2470 Mar 2014 #40
Read " Spitting Image" by Jerry Lembcke... Bigmack Mar 2014 #36
I heard too that protestors shouting "Hey hey LBJ, how many babies did you kill today", brewens Mar 2014 #39
I remember "kids did you kill" not babies. MADem Mar 2014 #77
Never saw one photo or piece of film to back that up. displacedtexan Mar 2014 #37
Never happened to me and I don't believe a word of it either madokie Mar 2014 #43
AFAIK, you are right. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #46
Think it was propaganda for sure. Yavapai Mar 2014 #54
Impeccable logic. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #55
easy azureblue Mar 2014 #64
thank you for this powerful testimony steve2470 Mar 2014 #65
There Have Been Many Words Written That Say ChiciB1 Mar 2014 #67
+1. (nt) Paladin Mar 2014 #14
EXCELLENT!!!! heaven05 Mar 2014 #15
my pleasure ! nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #16
Old DFH here... whathehell Mar 2014 #18
Yeah, we were right, but the Plutocrats are getting richer and more powerful every day. drynberg Mar 2014 #19
The .01% are kicking the living shit out of the bottom 99% 90-percent Mar 2014 #30
Damn right we were. Nt newfie11 Mar 2014 #20
Yes we were democrank Mar 2014 #21
We desperately need dotymed Mar 2014 #22
In the late 1960s and early 1970s Enthusiast Mar 2014 #24
But too many of us grew up, got religion and went wrong (right) when we were rejected in 1980. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #25
what about benghazi?...hippies didnt know about that! Demonaut Mar 2014 #27
unreformed, unapologetic, unrepentant proud dhf here, and will be til my last breath (and beyond) niyad Mar 2014 #28
"give peace a chance" niyad Mar 2014 #29
Makes me wants to take my car to a local high school art class oldandhappy Mar 2014 #33
Oh, I had a VW Beetle...... llmart Mar 2014 #71
We were, and we are, and we will continue to be. Zorra Mar 2014 #42
du rec. xchrom Mar 2014 #44
The hippies were right... polichick Mar 2014 #45
K & R jwirr Mar 2014 #47
"Flour Power"!!!11! JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2014 #48
heh.. annabanana Mar 2014 #51
yep. annabanana Mar 2014 #50
It's cold comfort after 40+ years of open hostility toward workers Warpy Mar 2014 #52
Why, yes. Yes, we were. Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #53
Funny, you don't strike me as a "hippy type." 1000words Mar 2014 #56
"Hippy" means fat in the arse Warpy Mar 2014 #57
lol ... I stand corrected 1000words Mar 2014 #59
This was awesome. SmittynMo Mar 2014 #58
Fuckin' awesome!! Playinghardball Mar 2014 #60
Brilliant, steve.. mahalo~ Cha Mar 2014 #61
love it, mahalo Cha ! steve2470 Mar 2014 #62
A`ole pilikia, steve Cha Mar 2014 #63
Yeppers! My Kids Keep Telling Me HOW I ChiciB1 Mar 2014 #66
Would love to buy this on mp3 or cd. marble falls Mar 2014 #69
you can download it via Firefox steve2470 Mar 2014 #70
Try this..... Hotler Nov 2015 #91
I lived 2 blocks up from Haight on Ashbury in 69. L0oniX Mar 2014 #72
you must have some very interesting stories nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #73
We were neighbors! Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #79
Far out! L0oniX Mar 2014 #87
Those were the days, my friend. :) Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #90
Of Course. NOLALady Mar 2014 #74
OMG! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #75
your top image not showing sheshe2 nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #76
Yes we were, and now we are old enought Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #78
I say that all the time. Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #80
it's harder now than it ever was in 1960s, harder to make a diff, nearly impossible i would say pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #86
Its always good to revisit this from time to time... Thanks.. KoKo Mar 2014 #88
my pleasure ! nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #89

brewens

(13,566 posts)
31. I'm a little older than you but missed that era as well. It's funny where I grew
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:47 AM
Mar 2014

up in Idaho, there was like a four year lag in the Hippie movement. Guys I know that will say thery were Hippies, I see a 1969 picture of them and they look like their mom dressed them! LOL Kids here in school finally got to have long hair about 1972.

One club in town where the Yardbirds played with Jimmy Page and I've seen the poster, a retro story on that club featured a bunch of young guys in buttoned shirts with collars and black plastic rimmed glasses. All they needed was pocket protectors to be revenge of the nerds. Not a hippie in sight! The freakin' Yard Birds had to think they were playing an Eagles Lodge for kids!

Here you went to Woodstock at the Autoview about two years later and that was a big event. The class of '74 tried to have the Hendrix version of The Star Spangled Banner at their graduation but that idea got squashed. At least they tried though.

 

Yavapai

(825 posts)
49. Heck!
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 04:59 PM
Mar 2014

I can't remember anything after about 1965. Not sure that is from the all the pot back then...or maybe the senility of today.

Response to steve2470 (Reply #82)

Response to steve2470 (Reply #6)

tea and oranges

(396 posts)
68. DFH Forever!
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 07:06 PM
Mar 2014

We were young, we understood the problems, we discussed the problems seriously, we had solutions. Yes, solar & wind power were among them.

We knew how fragile the ecosystem is.

Had we been listened to, the world would be a different place today.

Hint - it wouldn't be capitalist.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
23. Mmmm yeah! Meadow posies
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:46 AM
Mar 2014

I always pick a bunch before I hog my fields, everybody loves em. They're out there now about to burst up, thanks for the reminder of spring when we're getting snow again tomorrow

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,713 posts)
10. And we still are right...
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:29 AM
Mar 2014
http://endofcapitalism.com/

Great website. Start with the interview section located on the left sidebar, under the Facebook sign up. Titled "Interview with Alex Knight, The End of Capitalism?".

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,713 posts)
26. My pleasure!
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:01 AM
Mar 2014

I try to pass this site on to everyone I know or come across so the info can get out.
Please do the same.
We are winning, the grassroots will continue to get stronger. This is where the battle is being waged. Alas, it is out of sight and needs to be promoted.
Thank you.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
13. I'm proud to say
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:39 AM
Mar 2014

I came home after 15 months in country Vietnam and proceeded to become a dirty fucking hippie. It was they who got my ass our of there not the politicians and damn sure wasn't nixon who in some circles got the credit. It was the Hippies who stopped that war. They were right then and we are still right today. None of the things we supported has been proven to not have been right.

brewens

(13,566 posts)
32. What do you say about Hippies literally spitting on troops returning from
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:53 AM
Mar 2014

Vietnam? I've heard there is not a shred of evidence of that happening and I actually find it hard to believe anyone would do that.

brewens

(13,566 posts)
38. I can see that metaphorically, feeling that they were "spit on" but was there ever a court
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:12 AM
Mar 2014

case or anything like that? Video evidence would be unlikely of course back then. You'd sure think that would have gotten someone arrested. I could see some soldier beating the crap out of someone spitting on or at him and being prosecuted too. Bystanders at a protest would probably have done something about it as well.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
40. ONE idiot out of millions might have done it....
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:23 AM
Mar 2014

and the urban legend is born. I'm not convinced even ONE idiot did it.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
36. Read " Spitting Image" by Jerry Lembcke...
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:09 AM
Mar 2014

Viet Vet who researched the "spitting" bullshit.

The only negative things I had directed at me when I got back was from the VFW types who complained that we lost our war.

brewens

(13,566 posts)
39. I heard too that protestors shouting "Hey hey LBJ, how many babies did you kill today",
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:21 AM
Mar 2014

was the basis for some feeling they were called "baby killers". I'd take that as people on the right trying to direct that messge the way they would want. That wasn't directed at your average guy that served over there.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
77. I remember "kids did you kill" not babies.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:08 PM
Mar 2014

Don't ever recall hearing "babies" in that chant.

The "kids" they were referring to were the kids who were sent off at eighteen young years old to fight and die.

That resulted in the changes in the drinking and voting ages. Old enough to fight? Old enough to vote--and for several years anyway, in many states until they raised it nationally in 1984, old enough to drink.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
37. Never saw one photo or piece of film to back that up.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:11 AM
Mar 2014

And I was old enough during the 60's and 70's to have seen evidence.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
46. AFAIK, you are right.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 04:23 PM
Mar 2014

I think it was propaganda from the right, trying to alienate returning vets from the antiwar movement.

FWIW, I also was a grunt in 'Nam (67-68) & returned to join the antiwar movement.

 

Yavapai

(825 posts)
54. Think it was propaganda for sure.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 05:19 PM
Mar 2014

My logic:

1. Us dirty hippies were always stoned on pot.

2. Ever try to work up any spit with the dry mouth that comes with pot?

There you go, PROOF POSITIVE!!!

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
64. easy
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 06:28 PM
Mar 2014

It's was a lie. I was there - it did not happen, but the media was doing all it could to discredit the DFH, because we were advocating crazy ideas like social responsibility, environmental awareness, limited capitalism, etc. There has not been a single bit of proof that this ever happened. In truth, the exact opposite happened. We knew these guys coming back were nothing more than pawns in a game that had been shattered by the truth - they were fighting and dying for nothing. But hey were our brothers, cousins, friends and they were ruined people that needed help. They had been lied to, big time. And a lot took refuge in the counter culture movement to try to find some sense of reality. They came back drugged, bitter, angry, confusing, blindly hating, and distrustful of about everything. It was the "straights"that told them to suck it up, they should be proud for serving their country, and to shut up and put it behind them. It was the counter culture people - the hippies - that allowed them space to sort themselves out. My little commune had one soldier come through, he was wandering around in town with no place to sleep, and the pain in his eyes was too much to look at. He had seen way too much horror for a person so young. We just fed him and housed him, and gave him clothing when he asked for it. He didn't talk much, and eventually he did, and one of the first things he said was he was told before he got out of the army, that the hippies would hate him and spit on him. He was very suspicious of us, but we were the only ones who would take him in in a cold northeast winter, so he had little choice. Once he found out that he had been lied to, and it was OK to sit in a corner and cry it out, and people would listen to him talk without judging him, he eventually came to trust us. he spilled his guts and the stories he told were horrible, but he needed to say it to get it out of his system. One morning, he got up, and he was a different person - like he had just awakened from a nightmare to discover the world around him was alright, after all. My girlfriend awoke me crying, and told me she went into the kitchen and he was there cooking, and she heard him laugh for the first time since he had moved in, and it moved her to tears.. He eventually found himself a girlfriend, they moved to Vermont to start a farm, and he left us with a smile and hope. That is the truth, no matter what the media was trying to say.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
67. There Have Been Many Words Written That Say
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 06:59 PM
Mar 2014

this really happened, BUT I think it was a rumor that got started and has grown with time! I grew up as an Army brat and was around many military men, but never heard it spoken to me. I had many friends who got drafted, some never came home, but none ever said it happened to them. AND, I've seen documentaries that have said it's untrue and read books that debunk this too.

Just saying what I saw and heard personally.

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
19. Yeah, we were right, but the Plutocrats are getting richer and more powerful every day.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:16 AM
Mar 2014

The other 99% of us have less, even those with little. So, yeah we're right, but how can we win more? Y'know, stop corrosive pollution and greenhouse gases, remove the dangers of present and future radiation poisoning, stop the GMOing and antibioticization of our food, etc. Not to mention US Bully World Policy that harbors fear and loathing...So we gotta get busy working with OWS, 360.org, etc. or we'll be Right but Dead or considering the Dead lucky. Come on People, we gotta rally here.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
30. The .01% are kicking the living shit out of the bottom 99%
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:37 AM
Mar 2014

We are being psy-opped all over the place with our lame stream media, which is engineered to play us all like a musical instrument, so that we are all serving at the pleasure of reptiles like the Koch Bros.. IT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL TO KNOWINGLY LIE ON YOUR NEWS BROADCASTS?* Well, that is technically correct, but it undermines the basic tenant of our Democracy - the need for an informed populous. And so many of us that consider ourselves well informed are merely highly conditioned to think of agenda driven corporate propaganda as facts and bona-fide.

However, on the bright side, based on ratings, it appears we are catching on and are relying on internet based ALTERNATIVE MEDIA, which seems to be in a growth mode. America is side stepping their Goebbels caliber MSM in favor of Thom Hartmann, Amy Goodman, Real News Network, and all those other online journalists that practice actual journalism, instead of Big Brother Mass Propaganda.

-90% Jimmy

*I'd be interested to know how many American's even know this?

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
22. We desperately need
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:28 AM
Mar 2014

millions of DFH on the streets from this generation. We can join together.

We ALL must UNITE to get any positive changes.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
24. In the late 1960s and early 1970s
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 09:46 AM
Mar 2014

nay sayers were up in arms about the meager new limits to auto emissions. Now look at the results. Cars are more powerful, more fuel efficient than ever and emissions are way down. Cars are more reliable than ever too. The clean air advocates (hippies) were right. And that is just one issue.

mountain grammy

(26,614 posts)
25. But too many of us grew up, got religion and went wrong (right) when we were rejected in 1980.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:00 AM
Mar 2014

Nearly half of all Americans embrace creationism and deny pollution and climate change. If God didn't want pollution, he wouldn't have put all that oil and coal under the ground.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/frontal-cortex/2012/06/brain-experiments-why-we-dont-believe-science.html

I raised two sons, born in 1968 and 1971 and I'm proud to say they both still have DFH values, in fact, my younger son, who still refuses to own a cell phone, is actually a DFH himself.

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
27. what about benghazi?...hippies didnt know about that!
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:07 AM
Mar 2014

gotcha to look............this post is serious sarcasm

niyad

(113,232 posts)
29. "give peace a chance"
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 10:21 AM
Mar 2014
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oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
33. Makes me wants to take my car to a local high school art class
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:05 AM
Mar 2014

and get it painted with flowers and bright colors and all. I was never a hippie, but I am an outspoken old lady now. We are going to have to really work hard to get more of our own into the House in the 2014 elections. Our local dem club is on it.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
71. Oh, I had a VW Beetle......
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 08:02 PM
Mar 2014

on which I pasted many flower decals. Yeah, I'm a proud hippie chick but the long, straight hair I had back in the 60's is now grey. I'm still a hippie chick at heart and always will be. We did great things back then and brought forth many amazing changes in our country, but my greatest sorrow is that the environment is actually worse now than ever. I spend a lot of time thinking about that and how after President Carter, things went South. It saddens the hell out of me to see how materialistic we are now.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
42. We were, and we are, and we will continue to be.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 12:45 PM
Mar 2014

Got my freak flag tattooed on my heart with indelible ink in the 60's, never sold out, never will.

"When the power of Love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" ~ Jimi Hendrix

polichick

(37,152 posts)
45. The hippies were right...
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 04:17 PM
Mar 2014

but how many Dem leaders share those values today?

Would Obama relate to this vid?

In any case, I love it - thanks for posting!

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
50. yep.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 05:00 PM
Mar 2014

And though we may be getting long in the tooth, this still holds...

(Still "crazy" after all these years....)

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
52. It's cold comfort after 40+ years of open hostility toward workers
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 05:02 PM
Mar 2014

just so a bunch of rich men could get ridiculously rich and not have to worry about inflation.

Unfortunately, they were wrong about that, wages aren't what drive inflation.

But we filthy disgusting hippies could have told them that if they'd unblocked their ears.

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
57. "Hippy" means fat in the arse
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 05:31 PM
Mar 2014

"Hippie" describes a broad based mostly youth movement in the late 60s and early 70s that stressed interdependence and sustainability.

Oh, and sex and drugs and rock & roll.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
58. This was awesome.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 05:31 PM
Mar 2014

It's amazing this is the first time I've seen it. I loved every second of it. I passed it on to many.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
66. Yeppers! My Kids Keep Telling Me HOW I
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 06:51 PM
Mar 2014

must change with the times!! I DO agree that we always need to make progress, but so much of the time I see so little interest from the younger generations.

Yes, the internet and every communication device out there are helpful, but having a HUMAN CONNECTION is much more meaningful to me. Using devices to get the word out can and is extremely helpful, but it's so impersonal and I'm not sure it's the best way to exhibit real commitment. We can sit and type, text, email or whatever else, but much of the time too many people think that's all that's needed.

I've found it's much easier to GOTV in person and has a stronger impact. I could go on, but back in the day we needed to show up and join "hands together" to make others sit up and take notice. Unfortunately we don't have many real journalists or media that want to cover much other than the excitement of what Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus is doing! The dumbing down of America... kind of how I see it myself! Kinda hurts MY SOUL!

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
87. Far out!
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 10:07 AM
Mar 2014

Speedway Meadows concerts MC5 ...the Barb ...the Digs ...hippy hill on the right past the little tunnel into the park at the end of Haight

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
90. Those were the days, my friend. :)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:29 PM
Mar 2014

We always revisit that tunnel every time we go to SF just for the memories. The Haight's changed quite a bit, though, since 1969. Still fun to visit. I love the colors.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
78. Yes we were, and now we are old enought
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:02 PM
Mar 2014

to see it all come to a head again.....


I think that is what frustrates so many in my (our) age group "Oh no, not that crap again" as in having to fight about the same issues (women's reproductive health, for one).

 

pragmatic_dem

(410 posts)
86. it's harder now than it ever was in 1960s, harder to make a diff, nearly impossible i would say
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 02:28 AM
Mar 2014

Citizen's United, kids being worked to death in schools with standardized testing, parents stressed with multiple jobs and low wages.

About the only thing that hasn't changed much since that time is median wage. Meanwhile cost have climbed by hundreds of percent.

We have militarized police force, a surveillance state and free speech zones, dissent is stifled placed far out of sight.

Congress is loaded with millionaires and there are only a few who aren't there to serve themselves.

But, the bad news is, it is only going to get worse from here.

The historical economic trends from 1965 til today says proves this.

And piling on the bad news, the Democratic Party is doing as little as possible to stay relevant with liberals, while expending all their energy courting the magical "independent" conservative voters.





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