"No ma'am, I cannot sell you that pill"

[nadinbrzezinski]

"It violates my morals. "

That is what politizing medicine looks like.

How far from "we don't treat your kind here?"

Here is what is problematic. When the right does this, I can hear and agree with the howling. I fear when it comes to Chenney, since a few folks do not agree with him, and I wish he faced the court, you wish to politize one of the few truly blind systems in the country.

Are people his age transplanted? Yes, there used to be true age limits since organs were even less available. They tend to hit the jackpot with older, less perfect organs. You know the kind that a thirty something will need another transplant sooner than later.

But here I am seeing a lot of howling over a system that is truly blind.

Here is the truth...posibly there were more than one match, it happens. The organ was prioritized to where it woud still be viable. Hearts, iirc, have eight hours from the momemt they stop to the momemt they start again, why Chinese heart is quite funny. Those of you thinking this one is ven half way possible, look at a map.

Some time is taken at the OR where the organ is harvested. Then there is travel time. Then there is insertion and hoping it will go off when shocked. Yes, at times pesky new organ fails to respond. So please, do not make this political, and thank your lucky stars that most medical professionals will take care of patients regardless.

This has nothing to do with Stockholm, but well trodden medico-legal standards.

Trust me, some of the patients I treated over the years, from what I am reading here, would not have gotten treated due to the very real crimes they committed. For god sakes, the child rapist we transported with an AK round to the thight was already serving time. We still took care of him in a humane, kind way. It's just the way it is.

If any of you have real issues with this, and were thinking the medical profession, this is the time to rethink this. Perhaps you should reconsider and go into accounting.

As to the right, who'se been politizising medicine, they are just as wrong today, don't join them.

[HockeyMom]

1. I have heard of pharmacists refusing to fill mood stabilizers too

on religious grounds. I suppose they think these people should just pray away their mental health issues? Do these really want to TEST this themselves?

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. And red states are making this legal

Politizising medicine indeed.

[Posteritatis]

6. Certain breeds of fundamentalist consider mental illness to be a sin

After all, if someone was a Proper Christian they'd never be unhappy because yadda yadda God's love blah blah.

They don't care about the consequences, they just pass the blame along to whoever's suffering, because they've convinced themselves the sufferer has to have let something in somehow. One of my friends was put through an exorcism due to depression issues once because of that crowd, on the "rationale" that the only reason an actual believer could be depressed was demonic intervention.

[tammywammy]

8. Scientology is anti-psychiatric care. n/t

[libtodeath]

3. It should be an arrestible crime

to deny any form of medical care for any reason to a person.
If someones sky fairy wishes death and sickness on a person then those that believe in him should not practice medicine.

[edgineered]

4. It would be nice to think our society

improves along with our knowledge, but there is not a significant change in our human nature throughout recorded history. Circles of influence affect larger groups than ever before as the time needed to enact changes grows shorter. Why those on the inside track to our legislators are in the political realm is by their desire to be there and not in the trenches, so to speak.

Boiling it down to the devil you know as preferable to the devil you don't is a rather pessimistic outlook, but those in control of the system are the ones best able to control it. Those doing the greatest good we are most attached to. When the day comes that people as a whole see themselves not as members of a club, owner of a new car or a known by name at a restaurant, then will an anthropologist ponder what a curious activity DU was.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Sometimes I ponder myself

But in some ways it's not unlike it's mirror on the wall.



Partisans can get uggly.

[edgineered]

7. yup, Ann Margaret can't fix all our mirrors, only Tommy's

[Mumble]

9. You can always use moral grounds to deny filling a prescription

when in fact you do it for other reasons.....cuz he's black, or Jewish, or Muslim, or not your friend. And then fill similar prescriptions for your friends, church members and whomever you like. It's a convenient copout.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. And one that should not exit

I told a RW pharmacist that he shoud consider accounting.

[2ndAmForComputers]

11. "My moral prevents me from optimizing your taxes..."

"...because you would donate the extra money to Planned Parenthood."

It can poison everything.

[msongs]

12. sorry but you cannot read that bible here, it violates my morals. goose and gander nt