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Have we found out where the entrance wound was on Trayvon Martin yet? (Original Post) NNN0LHI Mar 2012 OP
All I ever heard was cindyperry2010 Mar 2012 #1
I heard that too. Right in the chest. nt riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #2
I have a suspicion that somone has that information, Don. Maybe the grand jury knows. slackmaster Mar 2012 #3
The evidence was buried with Trayvon. shraby Mar 2012 #4
That's news to me. When was Trayvon Martin buried? slackmaster Mar 2012 #5
He was buried March 3rd, Miami Gardens Church HipChick Mar 2012 #6
Thanks slackmaster Mar 2012 #14
If he was buried the evidence can still be found. MoonRiver Mar 2012 #7
Opinions have been plentiful as much as the facts scarce in this case. Zax2me Mar 2012 #8
At this point CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #10
Why is this "Left" of which you speak? obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #11
What Left are you talking about, and what agenda is that? lunatica Mar 2012 #13
Gun Laws and CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #15
Oh really. As a gun owning family it is not about your issues at all. We are concerned about the jwirr Mar 2012 #19
In this particular case I believe you are wrong. Rex Mar 2012 #20
If you are opposed to less discrimination against minorities so they are kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #24
As a liberal gun owner that twice has chased intruders out of my home without having to fire appleannie1 Mar 2012 #25
smooth CreekDog Mar 2012 #16
There are many on the right... ljm2002 Mar 2012 #18
I thought I'd never see the right's persecution complex posted on this site. Wow. ck4829 Mar 2012 #30
they sure as hell did that drug screening quickly, though ... zbdent Mar 2012 #9
Yeah WTF was up with that? Rex Mar 2012 #21
the autopsy results should have that info. Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #12
Every fight is different - edgineered Mar 2012 #17
I wonder if there was a struggle over the Gun? CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #22
One thing not deserving of much thought is edgineered Mar 2012 #23
The steams for help suggest there was a struggle the gun Veni.Vidi.Vici Mar 2012 #29
You are right. He would have had to have had at least one arm free in order to draw a weapon. appleannie1 Mar 2012 #26
I agree and furthermore... Veni.Vidi.Vici Mar 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Veni.Vidi.Vici Mar 2012 #28
Things a good autopsy will find: Entrance wound, angle, distance from shooter... mainer Mar 2012 #31
 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
3. I have a suspicion that somone has that information, Don. Maybe the grand jury knows.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:10 AM
Mar 2012

But the fact that it's not readily available on the Web will cause a lot of people to think that the information either doesn't exist, or that the evidence has been destroyed.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
7. If he was buried the evidence can still be found.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:26 AM
Mar 2012

I don't think anybody trusts the officials in Sanford for information.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
8. Opinions have been plentiful as much as the facts scarce in this case.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:32 AM
Mar 2012

Which is a bad combination.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
10. At this point
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:51 AM
Mar 2012

Facts hardly matter. It is political. The Left is using it to try and further their political agenda and the Right is trying to deflect the attacks by the left. I am interested in the actual facts and the legal matters. Sad for the family and friends. But there are thousands of other cases going on right now that are ignored.

obamanut2012

(26,064 posts)
11. Why is this "Left" of which you speak?
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:57 AM
Mar 2012

The ones you say are using this dead child to further their political agenda, and who the Right has to protect themselves from.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
15. Gun Laws and
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:23 PM
Mar 2012

Discrimination. More Gun Control and less Discrimination of Minorities. At least it appears that way to me. But as always I could be wrong.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. Oh really. As a gun owning family it is not about your issues at all. We are concerned about the
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:32 PM
Mar 2012

injustice of the action and a stupid law that allows a murderer to go free. And as a leftie that is what I am screaming about.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. In this particular case I believe you are wrong.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:37 PM
Mar 2012

But of course I could be wrong too! I see a great amount of ignorance on 'liberals' and 'guns' and this strange 'belief' that liberals not only don't own guns - but are scared of them. Very strange imo, but I've grown up with both all my life so what is normal to me must be strange to some.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
24. If you are opposed to less discrimination against minorities so they are
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:18 PM
Mar 2012

not murdered in cold blood quite so often and their killers don't get off scott free so often, you aren't going to be happy on DU.

Enjoy your stay.

Oh, and I come from a family of DEMOCRATS who also owned plenty of guns and used them (as ranchers and hunters and men of the law, lol) over the previous 3 generations. So you might want to rethink your prejudice against Dems before you get your pizza.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
25. As a liberal gun owner that twice has chased intruders out of my home without having to fire
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:32 PM
Mar 2012

a shot, I think you are wrong. And I am a 105 pound female. All I had to do was cock the rifle and the intruder, hearing the sound, ran. If Zimmerman was so weak that he could not have physically fought off someone weighing half of what he weighs without shooting the boy in question, he should not have been patrolling the neighborhood looking for people to hassle. And he should have done what the dispatcher told him to do, stop following the person and let police handle it.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
18. There are many on the right...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:30 PM
Mar 2012

...who have called for this matter to be investigated as well. Therefore your argument that "The Left is using it to try and further their political agenda" fails. Badly.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
9. they sure as hell did that drug screening quickly, though ...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 11:33 AM
Mar 2012

on the victim, not the shooter, I mean ...

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Yeah WTF was up with that?
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:40 PM
Mar 2012

The cops were SO HOPING to find drugs in the kids body? That way they could lie and cover up...perhaps, easier...in this case then without the drugs? That entire PD sounds somewhat strange imo. Not like any PD I've ever heard of.

I for one, am so glad the FBI is looking into this.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
12. the autopsy results should have that info.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:02 PM
Mar 2012

I've heard that he was shot in the chest like everyone else, you'd think that if he'd been shot in the back (even at chest level) they'd have said that. It's confusing though that a few accounts have him lying face down when police arrived.

The media can be pretty contradictory. I'm anxious to hear the facts.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
17. Every fight is different -
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:26 PM
Mar 2012

From which direction the shot was fired is no more than a detail.

What Zimmerman's ability to fire the shot does indicate though is a reversal in control of the fight, or that Martin ceased his offense. It is difficult to believe that with his back on the ground, a broken nose and being pinned down that he would be able to retrieve a pistol and shoot squarely. To draw and fire after submission (after the fight was over) is easier to envision, regardless of who the apparent 'winner' of the physical fight was.

But Martin isn't being portrayed as an experienced fighter.

My apologies now to anyone offended by my post, this needs to be resolved by our legal system.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
22. I wonder if there was a struggle over the Gun?
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:42 PM
Mar 2012

I wonder when the interrogation of Zimmerman will be released? I wonder if it is on video? I wonder who made the decision to let Zimmerman go? I wonder if the mentioned Can of Iced Tea is part of the evidence? I heard Martin made a 911 call but can not find out if true.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
23. One thing not deserving of much thought is
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:55 PM
Mar 2012

that releasing any details would be the equivalent of gasoline on a fire. The public is still dealing with this an emotional level; reacting impulsively is never good. We should be happy that tptb are acting responsibly in that regard.

Veni.Vidi.Vici

(3 posts)
29. The steams for help suggest there was a struggle the gun
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:51 PM
Mar 2012

Just call it intuition Zimmerman confronts the teen who is on the phone with his girl friend what are you doing here? The teen who is aware that Zimmerman has been following him ask why are you following me Zimmerman shove the boy phone goes dead because the boy opens up a can of whoopass on Zimmerman. Zimmerman draws gun boy realizes he is now literally fighting for his life and screams for help as he struggles for gun Zimmerman fires killing the boy. We all know these guys who want dream of being a cop and they all have one thing in common they can't fight. reyvon is only 140lbs but he's 6 '3 so he probably has reach advantage and when the Zimmerman shoved and tried to grab him probably flicked out a couple wicked jabs.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
26. You are right. He would have had to have had at least one arm free in order to draw a weapon.
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:39 PM
Mar 2012

Since that is the case and Martin was not armed, Zimmerman was not in danger of losing his life. All he had to do was get up and walk away.

Veni.Vidi.Vici

(3 posts)
27. I agree and furthermore...
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:22 PM
Mar 2012

Furthermore Treyvon is screaming " Help"up until the time he is silenced by gunfire. It doesn't seem plausible that he was the aggressor.

Response to edgineered (Reply #17)

mainer

(12,022 posts)
31. Things a good autopsy will find: Entrance wound, angle, distance from shooter...
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:31 PM
Mar 2012

Contact wound vs. longer range, etc.

Let's just hope the report and the evidence (e.g., victim's clothing) haven't "accidentally" been disposed of.

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