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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 05:54 PM

The Missing White Poor

The Missing White Poor

PAUL WALDMAN MARCH 17, 2014
Guess who makes up a plurality of America's poor?



The point of this chart is that even though blacks and Hispanics are disproportionately poor, the largest group of poor people in America is ... white people.

Despite that fact, when you say "the poor," what pops into most people's heads is an image of a black person, probably due in no small part to the fact that poverty in America is represented in the media as a largely black phenomenon (I'm not just saying that; there's research backing that up).




the rest:
http://prospect.org/article/missing-white-poor

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Reply The Missing White Poor (Original post)
kpete Mar 2014 OP
The Straight Story Mar 2014 #1
bigwillq Mar 2014 #3
hedgehog Mar 2014 #4
theHandpuppet Mar 2014 #19
Live and Learn Mar 2014 #27
Number23 Mar 2014 #6
JI7 Mar 2014 #7
Number23 Mar 2014 #12
JoeyT Mar 2014 #20
Number23 Mar 2014 #22
DebJ Mar 2014 #31
The Straight Story Mar 2014 #8
JI7 Mar 2014 #13
AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #30
AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #28
JI7 Mar 2014 #9
AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #25
Warpy Mar 2014 #2
magical thyme Mar 2014 #5
MFM008 Mar 2014 #10
wandy Mar 2014 #11
JI7 Mar 2014 #14
Fumesucker Mar 2014 #15
JI7 Mar 2014 #16
Fumesucker Mar 2014 #17
JI7 Mar 2014 #18
AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #29
Recursion Mar 2014 #21
MrScorpio Mar 2014 #23
AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #24
SoCalDem Mar 2014 #26

Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:00 PM

1. They have nothing to complain about, they are privileged (nt)

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:06 PM

3. How dare those whites complain.

They're nothing but privileged brats if you ask me.

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:07 PM

4. I think poor whites fall into a special category of being "non-white" all their own

Study the eugenics movement of the 20's and 30's and you'll find it aimed at poor whites. Look at jokes about poor whites, even here on Du; pejorative references to hillbillies, country folk being inbred, white trash, trailer park trash, people of Walmart etc.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 08:04 PM

19. Oh, I've just about heard it all here

It's called class warfare. And I've been posting about it for years. The last time I read this kind of mockery on DU I alerted but to no avail.

A thread from 2006, as an example:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/theHandpuppet/51

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:26 AM

27. +1 I've seen plenty of it here too. nt

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:31 PM

6. Did you miss this bit?

when you say "the poor," what pops into most people's heads is an image of a black person, probably due in no small part to the fact that poverty in America is represented in the media as a largely black phenomenon


Guess you did.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:36 PM

7. more like doesn't want to learn

and instead complain about being oppressed by the beyonces of the world.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:41 PM

12. Thank you. Says right there in the damn article that despite there being in sheer numbers

far more poor whites than poor blacks, black people are still far more likely to be represented as the face of poverty than whites and he and his little high fiving pal want to whine about "privilege".

Percentage wise, poverty is far more likely to afflict a black or Hispanic person but it comes in all colors. The fact that the media seems to really enjoy portraying blacks as being impoverished more than any one else is a prime example of the sort of thing this person seems to find so terrifying/annoying.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 10:11 PM

20. Even worse,

23% of our poor are African American. A bit less than 13% of our population is. 28% of our poor are Hispanic, 16% of our population is.
41% of our poor population is white. 72% of our population is white.

White folks are the only people that buck the trend of having a higher percentage in poverty than they represent in the population. You can either take one of two things from that information. Either systematic racism has made life harder for people that aren't white, or white people work harder. Only one of those choices is the sane one.

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Response to JoeyT (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:22 AM

22. Really wish I could rec your post

Very nicely stated.

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Response to JoeyT (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:47 AM

31. Third choice: Non-poor whites refuse to accept that they could become poor themselves,

so they don't want to hear that in the media. Because only those who 'deserve' to be poor are poor, and
therefore, they have complete control of their financial lives. Denial.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:38 PM

8. No, saw that right away

The media recognizes that whites are privileged and are not truly poor or downtrodden so they show groups that are.

The media is portraying truth - blacks are affected by poverty because of whites and whites cannot be affected to the same extent so why show them as poor/victims?

Makes sense I suppose....

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:43 PM

13. the media portrays poor blacks and hispanis as lazy, welfare queen, living off the govt types

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Response to JI7 (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:32 AM

30. Sadly, that is true. No doubt. nt

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:28 AM

28. "The media recognizes that whites are privileged and are not truly poor or downtrodden....." What?

You really believe that there *aren't* white folks who are truly poor or downtrodden? Seriously? GTFO, man! Maybe you oughta visit the Appalachians sometime; hell, the poorest county in the U.S.(or at least was; it's still in the top ten at least.)is in eastern Kentucky.....and it's 95% white!



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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:38 PM

9. people don't look at them and think "welfare queen" lazy living off the govt as they do

when they see a person of color.

just look at what the entire republican party campaign has been about.

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:24 AM

25. Edit: Never Mind!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:05 PM

2. Funny, I think of skinny, gap toothed white folks in the south

living in unpainted shacks that were indistinguishable from the ones poor black folks lived in. I probably do that because of the rigid segregation in the south when I was a kid.

I never think of that many inner city folks, they're much better fed and dressed than people in rural areas, if only because charities are concentrated in the cities along with second hand stores. Neither group can afford dentistry, though.

We need to claw back all the wages the 1% stole from us over the past 40 years and we need to do it quickly and permanently.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:11 PM

5. I think of Appalachia. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:40 PM

10. I have a refrigerator

so OBVIOUSLY im rolling in dough.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:41 PM

11. Not a word about privliage. Not a word about race............

Could it be possible that the white poor have somehow been deceived into voting for an ideology that is not in their best interest?

Why So Many Whites Vote Against Themselves
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/why-so-many-whites-vote-a_b_1342425.html

Or is it just the "Lady Writer on the TV"

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Response to wandy (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:45 PM

14. and some are just racist like that fake plumber who was on welfare

while attacking certain others for getting the same.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 07:09 PM

16. by welfare i meant any type of govt support, not one specific program

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Response to JI7 (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 07:14 PM

17. Why use the name of a program that ended over 15 years ago then?

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 07:16 PM

18. welfare is used to describe something it's not just the name of something,

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Response to wandy (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:31 AM

29. Good stuff.

As a liberal, it still saddens me that some white folks still continue to vote against their own best interests, just because of "them others". Sad shit indeed. Thanks for posting that.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 10:13 PM

21. Growing up poor and white in the south, I didn't realize we were "missing"

White poverty is hard to miss in some parts of the country...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 01:38 AM

23. Its pure dog whistle politics that have disappeared the White poor from America's psyche

I posted an article about it earlier!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024677394

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:23 AM

24. True. But the .1% don't even care about *white* poor people all that much.....nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 02:26 AM

26. and when the media covers white poor, they go out of their way to

find:
overweight smokers with multiple children...and of course a southern accent...and tattoos & piercings.

The "name of the game" is perception.

If they can present "the other" as someone you cannot identify with, you will be less likely to vote for things "those people" need.

I watched "Paycheck to Paycheck" tonight, and although I did feel sorry for the woman in the documentary, I also found myself cringing a bit when she spent $88 at a beauty parlor for a hair dye job, and with the callous way she treated a kitten.

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