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As of August 31st, 2011, there are 121,264 patients on wait lists at U.S. Transplant Centers. Of those 121,264 patients, 3,202 persons are awaiting heart transplants while an additional 69 patients are awaiting a heart/lung transplant.
Numbers from:
http://www.myhearttransplant.net/wait-list/new-wait-list-statistics.html
In Virginia, where the filthy buzzard got his heart transplant today, there were 370 people on the waiting list for a heart. In the US, there were 3202 on the list waiting for heart today.
Fathers, mothers, children, real people, actual humans who are not a sadistic murderering asshole like Cheney. I do not believe that he would have had medical priority. This stinks to hell.
Yet this 71 year old stinking road kill half dead walking corpse of a "man" bumps them all and buys his way to the top of the list. This miserable war criminal is the one that gets the beeper to go off, while the others will wait and many will die.
I am so furious I could SPIT. I pity the staff that has to care for the pig.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)and they expect people to believe that?
cstanleytech
(26,283 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)In order to get his heart implant, Cheney probably got not just on one, but a dozen transplant lists across the country. That's how the one percenters cut in line when they need fresh organs.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)It was a liver transplant.
LuvLoogie
(6,992 posts)...makes you look silly.
originalpckelly
(24,382 posts)used a thing called multiple listing where you go to many states and are on their transplant lists to up the likelihood of getting an organ. It only works if the patient can get there in time, which is what happens with private jet types.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)There is ONE registry... But go on and make facts as you go.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)"For most people, the ability to pay is a precondition for acceptance at more than one transplant center. Wealthy people who are, in effect, financially "pre-approved" for a liver transplant, can shop around and identify the transplant centers that will give them the best chance of receiving a new organ."
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/24/liver.transplant.priority.lists/index.html
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)At the time his condition got worse. Not that I wish this on you, but if you had the same condition and were at end stage, guess what? You'd be put in the priority list.
Some folks even "jump" further ahead by being so sick, they are in the Emergency list.
This is one of the few blind systems, by design by the way.
People should really get informed, on the off chance they might chose to sign a donor card, or worst, qualify for the system.
The only advantage, which is ironic actually, that dick has, is that he a poster child for single payor.
I don't know about you, but I really do not want medical decisions made on political party, or religious believes, or skin color.
We have been there as a country...is there where you want to go back?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)the White House, he has been a resident of Virginia. Now if he had gotten it in Wyoming or another state, then I would cry foul.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)malaise
(268,930 posts)We're all pissed
barbtries
(28,787 posts)went into him. i would be absolutely horrified.
MADem
(135,425 posts)progressoid
(49,978 posts)lastlib
(23,213 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)AB Normal.
Botany
(70,490 posts)n/t
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Botany
(70,490 posts).... and they do harvest the organs.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I think you are right. He planned to buy a Chinese heart.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)To the US? How long is the organ viable?
You said corneas, I might be willing to walk that way...kidneys, borderline. Hearts, math don't quite work.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)Not really, but, well, really.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)for every cheney there are a million or so worthy recipients.
golfguru
(4,987 posts)and now Cheney could switch parties!
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)if its a good heart it will reject the asshole.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And the donor is not known to the matching team. He was on the list for 20 months...
By law none in the matching procedures can know those identities to avoid exactly what you suggest.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)If you can start an illegal war based on a lie and get away with it, jumping the donor line is a piece of cake.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I know people luuuve their conspiracy theories, but on this...it is simply not that easy. Two years is average for people to remain on the list, why people die before getting organs.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)I knew you could. R. E. J. E. C. T. That's it.
samplegirl
(11,476 posts)As Cyndi Lauper said.........Money changes everything!
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)not with all his other medical problems, at age 71.
20 months or 20 years, he did not meet the criteria to even be considered to be on the list in the first place.
Some people who DID meet the criteria will probably die.
Botany
(70,490 posts)I know a young man who is dying from brain cancer he got
from fighting in Iraq thanx to KBR burn pits ...... he is just
one of many many people who have this type of brain cancer
who served in Iraq.
71, former smoker, drinker, 3 or 4 previous heart attacks he gets
a ticker? Well maybe he can stay healthy enough to be put on
trial for war crimes.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Especially your description of Cheney.
xloadiex
(628 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)He deserves to have nightmares every night of BEING those he has been responsible for killing during the last minutes of their lives.
rppper
(2,952 posts)licking at my wrinkled old ass i'd be scared too.....
lunatica
(53,410 posts)the Devil comes to collect his soul.
Dick Cheney has a soul?
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Nancy Waterman
(6,407 posts)xx
Orrex
(63,203 posts)It would be quite something to see Cheney, with his new pumper, turn into a human being so late in life.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)he would have to buy himself a one-way airline ticket to The Hague.
Damn-right he's scared to die. Many of the truly IMMORAL are. Part of me hopes like hell that he lives a LOOOOOONNNNGGG fucking time, and every minute of it with that fear.
Paladin
(28,252 posts)My friend is a hell of a lot more worthy than Cheney is for a heart transplant......
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Thought he lives in Maryland?
sellitman
(11,606 posts)Did they give him a human heart?
penndragon69
(788 posts)they must have executed a sadistic butcher of children
in order to acquire a heart that was as vile and corrupted
as the one that rejected that demonic spawn of Satan.
May his filthy soul suffer in agony for as long as his rotting corpse
walks the face of the earth.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)because I was told in another thread on organ donation that it was impossible to buy your way to the top of the list. So, obviously this didn't happen.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)but I believe it is against the law for a vital organ. Plus if it was on the private market, we would have never heard about it.
When I was first onsidered to be a candidate for a lung transplant, I was told I would not be able to get a new set of lungs after I hit 60. About three years ago, they told me that age is no longer a factor and that they are now transplanting people up to 75 - 80.
There are a lot more people donating now and they also have developed drugs that will allow for a little fudging in the match up so it isn't as hard to find a match.
Maine-ah
(9,902 posts)my Mom is 67 years old, and she needs a lung transplant. It was an option at one point. Problem now, is that her disease is so far progressed she can't meet the requirements. Back in December she was given 2-6 months. She is finally home, and we're taking care of her and making her as comfortable as possible until the inevitable happens.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)run out of treatment options.
I have kept my health pretty good otherwise and have to have a rigorous round of tests about my over all health condition.
Going for more testing and evaluation at the end of next month...
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)If Cheney did indeed "buy his way to the top of the list", these folks have committed multiple felonies; fraud, conspiracy, money laundering, tax evasion, etc. And if this turns out to be true it will strike a huge blow against the program as many people will tear up their donor cards in disgust.
Please forward whatever evidence you have to the authorities ASAP.
shoreline
(82 posts)Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)Average heart transplant cost in 2007 was $658,800. source
In Virginia, Medicare will cover a heart transplant. source
The Affordable Care Act prohibits health plans from putting a lifetime dollar limit on most benefits you receive. The law also restricts and phases out the annual dollar limits a health plan can place on most of your benefits and does away with these limits entirely in 2014. source
As a retired government retiree, Cheney is eligible to continue the same medical program he had as Vice President. source
I don't know whether the taxpayers paid for Cheney's new heart, but wouldn't it be ironic if a Republican relied on the government for the procedure?
Damn that government healthcare!
LuvLoogie
(6,992 posts)Technology has advanced to where they have perfected the artificial heart. Dick Cheney has access to this technology along with regenerative drugs and therapy designed to rejuvenate his body. He will die soon, "due to complications."
But in fact, he will have gone underground, and he will stay there for fifty years while he manages his interests via proxies. He will return when we have forgotten. His histories will have been scrubbed. He will arise again to wreak havoc upon our children's children.
Kablooie
(18,625 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)for the rest of Ole Dick's days. Oh, the terror
Raine
(30,540 posts)alterfurz
(2,474 posts)...and shooting people in the face." -- Andy Borowitz
Rex
(65,616 posts)And until adults in power decide to change it, that is what America stands for now.
eppur_se_muova
(36,259 posts)He knew there were not enough organs available for everyone on the waiting list and thought it would make more sense if someone who had more years to live was the recipient. It shocked some people that he would do that.
I think Cheney should have been offered a heart-lung machine in The Hague as his only option. If he doesn't go to trial, this gift was not just wasted, but misspent.
stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)tclambert
(11,085 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)they put a big bag of depleted uranium in the IV while doing the transplant.