Zimmerman: 1 death; Bales: 17 deaths: Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan: 1,000,000 + deaths

[panader0]

The murder of Trayvon is horrible. The shooting spree of Bales is hard to imagine. But the wars, the ongoing wars, make these outrageous incidents pale in comparison. The wars have always been and continue to be the main issue with me.
I'm certainly not making light of the problems with SYG, or PTSSyndrome, but I will say, again and again: END THE WARS!
The mood of this country has become numb to death and suffering. We, as taxpayers, fund the wars. We as voters must end the madness. If a young black male can be gunned down and garner so much outrage, what of the 1,000,000 we, as a nation, have killed?

[panader0]

1. Yep, numb.

[xchrom]

2. Du rec. Nt

[Logical]

3. I agree, this forum worries more about Zimmerman than Bales. And I see many here more worried....

about stray dogs than stray people.

[panader0]

4. Zimmerman is a racist nut job.

Bales is a troubled man with too much BS combat duty. But every day, even as we type, innocent people are being killed
by our insane policies overseas.
Outrage is justified about Trayvon. I just want to know why we are not equally outraged every day about how many died because of US.

[Logical]

5. Well, Bales was troubled before the military got hold of him.....

Assaulting a girl friend, hit and run accident, scammed some people out of their life savings.

And then, when mad at his military leaders, instead of shooting THEM, he shot Afghan KIDS!

No, Bales is as bad as Zimmerman.

[panader0]

8. I didn't mean to infer that Bales isn't as bad.

I say that there is a huge difference between one death (which is all DU can talk about) and a million deaths, still ongoing.

[Logical]

9. I understand your point. n-t

[aquart]

6. Disgusting.

I totally fail to appreciate having normal reactions belittled because worse things have happened somewhere else.

I find it manipulative, dismissive, and totally unacceptable.

[joshcryer]

7. +1, vile to the extreme. DU has been against Afghanistan and Iraq from its inception.

The vast majority of us have spent countless hours debating it.

Far be it for us to focus on a different issue.

[panader0]

10. "Disgusting"?

Because I want the wars over? How many died today?
You can discuss the NRA, Rush or whatever, but we have become numb to the elephant in the room. THE WARS.

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

11. I didn't find your comment discusting, it's a relavant discussion

I've been against the wars since before they started. I thought 9/11 was an inside job from the start, but try to talk about that in any forum but the 9/11 dungeon and "poof" goes that thread... And I haven't read many critical thinkers in that dungeon just attacks. I hope the Occupy movement takes all of this on in a meaningful way that exposes the corruption of Bankers, Government officials, and law enforcement. I go to see "Who Bombed Judi Bari?" tomorrow, and have been wondering if I should wear my Veterans for Peace T-shirt under or over my Hoodie.

Peace, and many blessings,

[SpencerShay]

13. Yeah. Disgusting!

The soldier who did the mass shooting has been arrested, and will be put on trial. You act as though nobody has right to talk about anything else, but WAR. You just can't stand that a black kid, that may have been the victim of a hate crime, is getting so much attention, so now you're pretending to care about the wars, to get people to change the subject, and talk about something else. The Righties do the same thing. I didn’t notice hardly any people here running to Rush Limbaugh’s defense when he called Sandra Fluke a slut, and then tried to get people to stop talking about Sandra Fluke, and focus on the wars, instead. And you have been on another thread defending George Zimmerman. I’m not falling for your bullshit.

[William769]

17. Are you saying people should defending be that limp prick pill snorting full of hot air ass wipe

Limbaugh over Sandra Fluke.

Inquiring minds want to know!

[panader0]

19. Wrong Spencer

I'm not on any thread defending George Zimmerman. Where'd you get that? So much for bullshit.

[uppityperson]

20. We can multi-task our outrage, against the war and this crime. Where has panader0 defended Zimmerman

I'd like to see what you are talking about. Thank you.

I am not sure what you are talking about about defending Rush, please clarify. Thank you.

Reading your other post, I think you are saying someone or ones on DU are calling people who want Zimmerman arrested an "irrational mob" yet "These same people had no problem when there was a mob who wanted Rush Limbaugh fired for calling Sandra Fluke a slut." Are you saying that it some here say it is ok to be an irrational mob sometimes but not others?

[L0oniX]

12. You can't expect a mob to be rational.

[SpencerShay]

14. And...

You can't expect racist apologists to be rational, either. BYE.

[L0oniX]

15. Huh? Are you smoking something?

[Number23]

16. GD continues its downward slide.

Don't use that child's death to forward your agenda. People can be concerned about more than one thing at a time. Your OP is disgusting.

[countingbluecars]

18. The racial injustice

highlighted by Trayvon's murder does not "pale in comparison". It deserves the outrage it has received. Perhaps you missed the big picture.

[etherealtruth]

21. Exactly n/t

[panader0]

22. Racial injustice high lighted by Trayvon's murder is a reality.

My point was to say that "the big picture" is 1,000,000 to 1.
Injustice is injust in Iraq too.

[countingbluecars]

23. The number of people

who experience racial hate and bigotry is much greater than 1.

[DevonRex]

24. So we should just ignore that black child

whochild who was hunted down and murdered?

Well, I sure as HELL won't go along with your attempt to minimize it. Or to use him to serve your own agenda.

[TBF]

25. You make a good point but

my guess is that you're seeing this reaction because people relate to it. Many of us live in suburbs where such a thing can easily happen and we're shocked not only by Zimmerman's (alleged) actions, but also by the fallout (racism) we're seeing in response. Race is very much still an issue in this country and this case has amplified it.

Should we be paying attention to the millions of folks killed by the Imperialists raging for resources all over the globe? You bet we should, but we won't because people feel removed from it, and dare I say they have been conditioned to the violence?

I give you props for trying though - and I do agree with you. K&R for your OP.

[ecstatic]

26. unrec!

It's not just about Trayvon. It's about institutional racism. Trayvon is not the first black man to be gunned down for no reason, and I for one am glad that the nation is paying attention (this time).